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Why isn't this website, the leader in Android news, giving one second thought to the fact that the Nexus S, on any other network save for Sprint, has not gotten a ICS update?

Isn't that a story? The fact that both Android, and Samsung and the carriers have not delivered the OS to the device that is marketed on being the first to get it?

Was the Nexus S so unpopular that no one cares?
 

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The NS has been updated for months now in most of its versions. I'm not sure the Korean one has gotten ICS, but I think the rest have. I'm not actually checking for the purposes of this post though, so I could be wrong. All I know is that my i9020t has had ICS since early this year.
 
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I am sure that your NS might have ICS. You might have put it on yourself for all I know. But, ATT has not done an OTA to ICS. Samsung cannot do an update to our phones.

So, if you are a Nexus S user on ATT, you do not have ICS from anyone other than the internet, and rooting. Which voids the warranty.

So, I do think it is a story that the largest carrier has an android device sold for it, and then does nothing to support it. I do think there is merit there. But it appears that Android Central does not care.

Which I find hilarious. And shows me how serious to take android.
 

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I am sure that your NS might have ICS. You might have put it on yourself for all I know. But, ATT has not done an OTA to ICS. Samsung cannot do an update to our phones.
Yeah, I don't know what the deal with the i9020a is, but just because you've been left out in the cold doesn't mean everyone else has. In any case, you're right that it's a shame Google hasn't been able to get ICS pushed out to all the NS variants faster. Or all the GSM ones, at least; as we know CDMA phones are more at the carrier's mercy.
 

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Are you sure that the AT&T Nexus S doesn't have ICS through an OTA? I thought for sure I heard about it getting it way before the Nexus S 4G on Sprint. That was the late one.
 

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Which voids the warranty.

I haven't seen the NS warranty, but most warranties barely cover anything... manufacturer's defects mostly. This is no reason to avoid root (and all the benefits that come with it).

I firmly believe people avoid root because they feel they lack the skill set. One does need to possess at least a ten thousand foot view of the technology. Although it's quite simple to understand, many people lack confidence, so they never try.

So, I do think it is a story that the largest carrier has an android device sold for it, and then does nothing to support it. I do think there is merit there. But it appears that Android Central does not care.

Which I find hilarious. And shows me how serious to take android.
Not sure where you're going here. AT&T is the largest carrier? Of what?.. crappy coverage and obviously (from this thread) lousy update services? It's not like the NS doesn't have ICS. AT&T simply hasn't given it to it's customers yet.

How serious should Android Central take AT&T's latest pooping of the bed? Not too serious. AT&T has done nothing but poop the bed, so why be surprised by it now? If someone poops in the bed every night, don't be surprised when they poop in the bed tonight.

How serious should you take Android? Take it as serious as you want. With 59% of the market share, I think the rest of the world is taking it pretty seriously. ;-)

IMHO, this is a thread about how crappy AT&T is... not Android or Google.
 
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It is about the whole chain being crappy.

1. Android Central has given not one keystroke to this.
2. Android is an operating system devoid of any support.
3. Google offers an operating system devoid of any support.
4. Samsung loads phones with an operating system devoid of support.

ATT seems to be the largest carrier of cellphones in America.

The Nexus line is the flagship line for Android supposedly.

So, the flagship phone, on att lacks the promised OS update.

And no one writes about it.

Instead we get a ton of worship of the Galaxy S 57 or whatever it is.

Android is an amazing OS, but this is a failure across the board.
 

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Well, let's be honest; this is a site dominated by people who like Android, and who tend to want to see their preferred platform in a positive light. AC (and every other tech publication on the planet) has already devoted hours of airtime and pages of text to complaining that Android updates aren't handled like iOS updates, and lamenting that this or that phone is x versions behind. Frankly I think at this point we all know that's the reality; and are tired of hearing about it. The Nexus line is a special case, I agree, but if your question is why more isn't being said, I would say that's the main reason.
 
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You know if you think something is a story, you can tip us.

We don't have every phone on ever carrier just lying around. Despite the fact it might look that way :)

Sent from my HTC One X using Android Central Forums
 

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I haven't seen the NS warranty, but most warranties barely cover anything... manufacturer's defects mostly. This is no reason to avoid root (and all the benefits that come with it).

I firmly believe people avoid root because they feel they lack the skill set. One does need to possess at least a ten thousand foot view of the technology. Although it's quite simple to understand, many people lack confidence, so they never try.

I work in IT and have been programming since I was ten. I think I have the required skill set to root. I choose not to because of the warranty. I just had my phone replaced VIA warranty, and, will unfortunately have to do so again as soon as I stop being procrastinating.

If someone poops in the bed every night, don't be surprised when they poop in the bed tonight.

Lol.
 

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Well Richard. Consider this thread your tip.

Maybe you think I am being negative about android, or the phone...Maybe. But, the reality is the stuff is just fine.

But, the facts are still these.

1. The Nexus S is part of the Nexus line. It is said it will get updates when they arrive.
2. ATT is a giant mobile carrier
3. ATT is not going an OTA for the Nexus S, because it is an unsupported device.

I think that is a story.
 

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If I'm not mistaken, Nexus S is the sprint version...
AT&T, all in all, is a terrible carrier.

If I understand correctly(I'm drunk, bear with me here), you are complaining about AT&T not giving ICS update to the sprint version?
 

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If I'm not mistaken, Nexus S is the sprint version...
AT&T, all in all, is a terrible carrier.

If I understand correctly(I'm drunk, bear with me here), you are complaining about AT&T not giving ICS update to the sprint version?

The nexus s was available(in the u.s.) on T-Mobile and Sprint. It worked on AT&T, but they never actually sold the phone. You could buy an unlocked one that worked on AT&T. The Nexus S 4G was Sprint only. And the only one to have Google Wallet officially. So AT&T will not push an update to it. Since it is a GSM version Google should be pushing it.

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Well, you see, that differs from what Samsung says. Samsung says that google sends them the software, samsung makes alterations per device, and sends it to the carrier, who sends it out.

This is the entire point...no one knows anything at all about android. There are ten versions of this answer. Who pushes updates? Who gets updates?

No one knows.
 

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It is unreasonable for anyone to expect any carrier to push an update out to a phone they never sold/supported.

And FWIW... AT&T is not the largest carrier of cellphones in America. Verizon is the largest. This data is over a year old, but I'm confident AT&T hasn't had a flood of subscribers in the mean time. ;-)
ATT seems to be the largest carrier of cellphones in America.
 
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Wow, that bit about the numbers is a lot like looking at the snow man and missing the avalanche.

So, if it is unreasonable...how should a Nexus S user be expected to get an update to ICS?

This is a glaring flaw in the system. This phone was sold by best buy, for the att network.

Was there no communication between the two?
 

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It is unreasonable for anyone to expect any carrier to push an update out to a phone they never sold/supported.

And FWIW... AT&T is not the largest carrier of cellphones in America. Verizon is the largest. This data is over a year old, but I'm confident AT&T hasn't had a flood of subscribers in the mean time. ;-)
ATT seems to be the largest carrier of cellphones in America.

Exactly.

AT&T never sold the Nexus S through their official retail and web channels.
 

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