Why the hate?
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Also, let's try to take it easy with the back and forth personal stuff, regardless if it's intentional or unintentional. Thanks.
Personally I'm in favor of that stuff
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jean15paul
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My 2 cents...
With regard to the purpose of the Nexus program. Historically the Nexus program has existed to set some informal standards within the Android "industry". As a developer phone it did a few things. 1) Gave app developers a target phone to develop for. 2) In doing that it also tried to set minimum target specs for OEMs. As such the Nexus never was the best of the best specs. Rather is was always about a half generation behind those top flagships. 3) It debuted the latest Android software version to push OEM to move to the newest software. Since Android is open source Google had no way to force standards on the industry. So the Nexus program basically it tried to informally set development, hardware, and software standards.
That all changed this year at Google I/O. Android has grown so much that Google doesn't have to set these standards. OEM advance hardware so fast that they don't need Google to push them. The market is aware of software updates and makes sure that OEM don't languish on old software. And there's a big enough community of app developers that competition keeps them moving forward. So Google changed the Nexus program from a standard setting "developer phone" to a brand that represents the "best of Google". I'm pretty sure they even directly said that at I/O. Now it's Google's flagship brand, and that's why we're seeing these killer hardware specs in the Nexus 4 and Nexus 7. And also why they are pushing new technology like the Nexus Q.
I know that many people resist change, but in my opinion, this is a really exciting time for Google's Nexus line. Now that Android is all grown up now, Google can use the Nexus line to lead Android from the front instead of pushing it from behind. I think we're going to see some great stuff in the coming year.
With regard to the purpose of the Nexus program. Historically the Nexus program has existed to set some informal standards within the Android "industry". As a developer phone it did a few things. 1) Gave app developers a target phone to develop for. 2) In doing that it also tried to set minimum target specs for OEMs. As such the Nexus never was the best of the best specs. Rather is was always about a half generation behind those top flagships. 3) It debuted the latest Android software version to push OEM to move to the newest software. Since Android is open source Google had no way to force standards on the industry. So the Nexus program basically it tried to informally set development, hardware, and software standards.
That all changed this year at Google I/O. Android has grown so much that Google doesn't have to set these standards. OEM advance hardware so fast that they don't need Google to push them. The market is aware of software updates and makes sure that OEM don't languish on old software. And there's a big enough community of app developers that competition keeps them moving forward. So Google changed the Nexus program from a standard setting "developer phone" to a brand that represents the "best of Google". I'm pretty sure they even directly said that at I/O. Now it's Google's flagship brand, and that's why we're seeing these killer hardware specs in the Nexus 4 and Nexus 7. And also why they are pushing new technology like the Nexus Q.
I know that many people resist change, but in my opinion, this is a really exciting time for Google's Nexus line. Now that Android is all grown up now, Google can use the Nexus line to lead Android from the front instead of pushing it from behind. I think we're going to see some great stuff in the coming year.
I think I'm making a big deal out of nothing. Price will come down over time, the galaxy nexus didn't start at $350 in the play store. Let's get real its a developer reference design, and it sets some standards for future phones. One can argue the gs3 and one x were based off the standards set by the galaxy nexus.
Hopefully a 32 gig model will be offered eventually
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Hopefully a 32 gig model will be offered eventually
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I think what Google is doing here is interesting. I think that what they intend to do is set standards with various OEMs. By working closely with them in the development of the hardware and software combined, the OEM gets hands-on training and familiarity with Google's overall vision for the platform and the OEM is able to take advantage of this first hand knowledge in creating hardware that can be relevant with Android for years to come. The Nexus S 4G that I hold right now has an *official* JellyBean update. The phone is over 2 years old, and Google is still supporting it! That's amazing, and I think it could only be this way if Google works closely with the hardware manufacturers. ...I had to root my EVO 4G to get any updates in a timely fashion by leveraging the dev community.
On the software side, the OEM again gets the benefit of understanding first-hand Google's vision for the OS. The Nexus devices provide a baseline for what Android is and where it is going. The development community also is brought in under Google's wings as hordes of developers and users become more familiar with creating for the Android platform as a whole.
It's genius. And I don't mean 'genius' like you find in blue shirts inside pretentious stores with glass walls and marble floors. Google's vision is about everybody having a part in it - not just following along.
Good points. BTW be grateful you could root your evo for updates, htcs newer devices aren't so easy to make roms for. Most developers that tried to make a jelly bean rom for my vivid eventually would stop working on it and leave a post that goes to the tune of "Can't stand the stupid ril issues this phone has anymore so I just sold it and picked a Galaxy S3, so much easier to develop for!" Lost about 3 developers with the same message.
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I absolutely am. But ICS was abandoned also for the most part, as hardware acceleration was never able to be dialed in due to the CPU that we later found was no longer being supported by Google. Had that CPU been in any Nexus other than the first one, I'm sure they would have kept it going. That's kinda my point as to why the NS4G still gets some official love.
Yeah the evo was pretty much a nexus one with a larger screen, better rear camera, addition of a front camera, and no track ball. I think the main thing about the first generation snapdragons is gpu is crucial for ics and up, and the gpu in the nexus one and it's relatives wasn't up to par. The nexus s essentially was a galaxy s running aosp, and the galaxy s phones had the power vr sgx540 which is still a good gpu even by today's standards, actually I believe the galaxy nexus uses it too
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Yeah probably true. It looks to me by the pictures the "nexus 4" naming means 4 inch(ish) class nexus that puts it in align with the nexus 7 and rumored nexus 10. I say this because the newest pictures have Google removed off the back and a gigantic nexus logo on the back much like the nexus 7
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We can all make guesses and assumptions of what the Nexus brand is.
But in the end, it's Google's brand. A Nexus is whatever Google calls a Nexus. End of story.
I wish their was more news. The anticipation is killing me!
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Well, according to the leaked price, (Carphone Warehouse's, it might be cheaper on GPlay- a Gnex gsm on amazon is still like 500) it'll launch at 630 USD or something in that region.
Damn, that's a killjoy, I know what phone I'm not getting :/
I hope I can get more time from the dinosaur
E: To all complaining about center clock, maybe it's a new customization thing in 4.2?
Damn, that's a killjoy, I know what phone I'm not getting :/
I hope I can get more time from the dinosaur
E: To all complaining about center clock, maybe it's a new customization thing in 4.2?
Actually it's not. It's actually someone's galaxy nexus screen shot, from a completely unrelated subject. Guy was having issues with his google now on a custom rom and posted screen shot. Someone else happen to find that screen shot and photo shop it
$600? That can't be right honestly. I'll take it with a grain of salt since this is the same company that had "Samsung galaxy nexus 2" in their inventory.
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I just don't buy that. If Google is seriously releasing a play store only phone for $600, well that's suicide for sales. Regardless of whether or other then gt-i9260 is real or not, they had it listed as galaxy nexus 2, and they were showing off shots of the lg nexus a screen shot on the screen pulled from xda. They are loosing credibility fast.
If they are making carrier subsidized models too, then yeah I could see the $600 price tag, otherwise no way
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If they are making carrier subsidized models too, then yeah I could see the $600 price tag, otherwise no way
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The guy who posted the Car Warehouse screenshot clarified that is was a Nexus S, not 5, and that it had been misidentified in their database for years.
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