Will you avoid a Moto Nexus?

[Ronindan]

I'm sorry, but if you seriously say that a Motorola Nexus wouldn't be awesome, you're blinded by fanboyism. And IMO, manufacturer fanboys don't deserve to even use Android.

I am to were responding to me I think you missed the gist of my post. Motor makes good smartphone. However if they make a nexus device with great hardware and locked boot loader then that device is not a nexus. It just like any motorala device such as the Atrix, droid x, and etc.

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[Ronindan]

Sorry for the typos, I am responding while on the bus.

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[TuxDotKing]

I am to were responding to me I think you missed the gist of my post. Motor makes good smartphone. However if they make a nexus device with great hardware and locked boot loader then that device is not a nexus. It just like any motorala device such as the Atrix, droid x, and etc.

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I wasn't responding to you, don't worry. And I agree.

 

[Ronindan]

I wasn't responding to you, don't worry. And I agree.

Np. Cool profile pic

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[Johnly]

It is a known fact motor updates, has a premium radio, always has decent battery life. If motor makes a nexus? I will jump in then. What a tease!

 

[Baconator]

I wish Google would just get there own hardware and build a phone. No Moto, Samsung, HTC, or any other manufacturer. I wish the would just manufacture their own phone.

 

[Ronindan]

It would be nice. But it looks like that google has no plans at all.

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[dd0yl3]

I wish Google would just get there own hardware and build a phone. No Moto, Samsung, HTC, or any other manufacturer. I wish the would just manufacture there own phone.

I totally agree, then there would be no worries.

 

[TuxDotKing]

I wish Google would just get there own hardware and build a phone. No Moto, Samsung, HTC, or any other manufacturer. I wish the would just manufacture their own phone.

I disagree. I think then we'd end up with the Nokia Effect that I think we'll be seeing very shortly with WP7; manufacturing partners become business rivals and aren't going to be thrilled about the prospect of competing with a company that's always one step ahead of them thanks to their relationship with the software provider. Especially considering that that plan would basically make the software provider and the favorite manufacturer the same company. (Who wants to compete with a phone with the full strength of the Google brand name and blessing?) The manufacturers would either try as hard as they could to compete or give up and move on to another platform where they feel is a better investment... and I personally think more of them would do the latter than the former.

 

[JC4131a]

The manufacturers would either try as hard as they could to compete or give up and move on to another platform where they feel is a better investment... and I personally think more of them would do the latter than the former.

I was born in 1987. Is this how windows started? lol

 

[TuxDotKing]

I was born in 1987. Is this how windows started? lol

? I'm not understanding your point. I wasn't referring to Windows the desktop OS, I was referring to Nokia's recent deal with Microsoft that allows Nokia early access to WP7 changes and more freedom to improve on WP7 than Microsoft's other Windows Phone 7 partners.

Granted, Android is open source, so on second thought manufacturers may not feel threatened enough to leave the platform; but I could see fragmentation happening on a much more irksome scale as manufacturers attempt to differentiate themselves even more aggressively than they do now.

 

[JC4131a]

? I'm not understanding your point. I wasn't referring to Windows the desktop OS, I was referring to Nokia's recent deal with Microsoft that allows Nokia early access to WP7 changes and more freedom to improve on WP7 than Microsoft's other Windows Phone 7 partners.

Granted, Android is open source, so on second thought manufacturers may not feel threatened enough to leave the platform; but I could see fragmentation happening on a much more irksome scale as manufacturers attempt to differentiate themselves even more aggressively than they do now.

I should have provided some explanation. I see what you're saying about Nokia and your concern, from what I read, was that google would run into the same problem if it had a special partner. I agree and it just seems to me that this is what ended up launching windows and holding back macs in the early 90's. The same thing seems to be happening again, only this time Android is playing the part of windows with tons of more control given to the manufacturers. That is why I was referring to windows, which is really confusing without me giving explanation as to what I am referring to and its not a very good comparison since Mac wasn't even giving the option of letting other manufacturers use their OS back then. Overall my statement made terrible references and was a worse attempt at a joke.

 

[ChillFactorz]

Moto's are built well and have always been known for good reception, and I thought good reception usually meant better battery. Add to that a Vanilla Rom, giving faster response time, I would say you have the makings of a good phone.

 

[Gameboy70]

I disagree. I think then we'd end up with the Nokia Effect that I think we'll be seeing very shortly with WP7; manufacturing partners become business rivals and aren't going to be thrilled about the prospect of competing with a company that's always one step ahead of them thanks to their relationship with the software provider. Especially considering that that plan would basically make the software provider and the favorite manufacturer the same company. (Who wants to compete with a phone with the full strength of the Google brand name and blessing?) The manufacturers would either try as hard as they could to compete or give up and move on to another platform where they feel is a better investment... and I personally think more of them would do the latter than the former.

It's less of a problem if Google handled the end-to-end design and engineering of the Nexus in-house and went with a generic manufacturer whose only function was being a tooling arm--e.g. companies like FoxConn or Flextronics--instead of handing off a blue sky vision to ODMs like HTC, LG, Moto or Sammy to fill in the details. The phones would be perceived as pure Google phones, the way that the iPhone is attributed directly to Apple.

 

[thebizz]

I would buy it just give me a decent camera none of that cheap crap that they put in the d1 and d2 ill wait and see honestly I would take a samsung lg or even sony erricson. at this point my next phone will be a nexus device even if it's not subsidized

 

[TuxDotKing]

I should have provided some explanation. I see what you're saying about Nokia and your concern, from what I read, was that google would run into the same problem if it had a special partner. I agree and it just seems to me that this is what ended up launching windows and holding back macs in the early 90's. The same thing seems to be happening again, only this time Android is playing the part of windows with tons of more control given to the manufacturers. That is why I was referring to windows, which is really confusing without me giving explanation as to what I am referring to and its not a very good comparison since Mac wasn't even giving the option of letting other manufacturers use their OS back then. Overall my statement made terrible references and was a worse attempt at a joke.

Ahhh okay I see (and agree). I was just a bit slow in understanding, don't be so hard on yourself

It's less of a problem if Google handled the end-to-end design and engineering of the Nexus in-house and went with a generic manufacturer whose only function was being a tooling arm--e.g. companies like FoxConn or Flextronics--instead of handing off a blue sky vision to ODMs like HTC, LG, Moto or Sammy to fill in the details. The phones would be perceived as pure Google phones, the way that the iPhone is attributed directly to Apple.

Sure, such a plan would inevitably result in a better Nexus, and a win for Google as a brand; but would it be a win for Google as a business? If the manufacturers scurry off from under Google, Google loses, period. Even if the new, Pure Pure Google Phone outsold the iPhone worldwide, they still probably wouldn't make as much money as they're making now from ads on all the countless Android phones out there.

 

[ls377]

Sure, such a plan would inevitably result in a better Nexus, and a win for Google as a brand; but would it be a win for Google as a business? If the manufacturers scurry off from under Google, Google loses, period. Even if the new, Pure Pure Google Phone outsold the iPhone worldwide, they still probably wouldn't make as much money as they're making now from ads on all the countless Android phones out there.

I don't think manufacturers would scurry away right away, they have too much invested in the platform.
I think a google branded phone would sell big. The google name is huge, and if they mass marketed a "google phone", they would easily make up in sales what they lost in ads.

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[Gameboy70]

Sure, such a plan would inevitably result in a better Nexus, and a win for Google as a brand; but would it be a win for Google as a business? If the manufacturers scurry off from under Google, Google loses, period. Even if the new, Pure Pure Google Phone outsold the iPhone worldwide, they still probably wouldn't make as much money as they're making now from ads on all the countless Android phones out there.

Would a true gPhone really discourage other manufacturers from making Android phones?

Ask yourself this: If Apple licensed iOS while still making the iPhone, would other companies chomp at the bit to make their own iOS phones? I would say yes. Of course, this would never happen under Steve Jobs, but remember that the only reason that MacOS clones were killed was due to Steve killing them, not because they didn't sell well. MacOS competitors were bad for Apple, but Google isn't in a zero sum game with hardware sales, as you've pointed out; they just want to get their search engine into as many phones as possible.

 

[eric6052]

I would definitely be interested in buying a Motorola Nexus. I love the build quality of my Droid X but the first things I had to do were to install ADw and root to get rid of bloatware. Unfortunatly since im on Verizon this will never happen as they have such a hard on for bloatware, especially worthless vcast apps.

 

[thebizz]

I really hope VZW gets a nexus device or Motorola follows se lead with the bootloader unlock if I can have a bionic with an unlocked bootloader I'm cool but if they get neither ill just go to ios land or somewhere else. Android is great but most of my pleasure comes from the ability to hack it if I loose that android has no interest to me I would rather have webos and use patches than a locked bootloader