With the Note 9,i now realize that 'Stock' android had me brainwashed.

[anon(3641385)]

I enjoy OEM skins, but the one things that drives me crazy is all the duplicate apps. I don't think manufacturer should abandoned them all together, but give an option on what I want to use. Stock Android is lacking nowadays, I believe that is why Pixels aren't quite stock Android.

I uninstall Google's crap stock Android as soon as i see it. I regard everything google as bloat, but unfortunately still need to continue using the playstore.

One of the major reasons that I buy samsung is for their apps, and their cloud.

 

[anon(3641385)]

Came here from the AC home page, after a while I thought the thread was taken over by Samsung fanboys, looked up, and yes, I was indeed in the Samsung Note 9 forum. LoL

Nothing against you guy who love your Notes, but I love my minimalist Moto Android with the light additions Moto makes. It doesn't have some sketchy Facebook installer app in there. Who knows the hooks Samsung puts in there to phone home and eat CPU, but then, same is true for Moto....

Oh I remember Motorola, I used them till 2008 when I bought my first blackberry, and I never looked back.

Motorola went downhill fast as a brand, as did blackberry eventually.

Back on topic, yep you're in the Samsung forum, but name calling, eg fan boy (I'm not male), isn't a comment that relates to good discussion, imo.

 

[MrAmad3us]

First of all don't confuse stock Android with the pixel experience. If you want stock, flash aosp or get an essential phone.

Secondly, whether you prefer Samsung's theme(for exemple) or the Pixel's depends mainly on what you expect from your software experience, personally I can't stand to have two messaging apps, assistants or email apps on my phone, especially when they're bearing diverging design policies.

I'm a minimalist and I love me a streamlined UX. I couldn't care less about "features" like active edge or three camera sensors. And so far almost every OEM theme looks tacked on and clumsy if not straight up performance impeding.

This whole thing sounds like the iOS vs Android debate. And TBH, I'd probably be using an iPhone if it wasn't such a glorified Kindle when it comes to the possibilities in proper exploitation of a computing device and straight up productivity.

 

[strikeIII]

can somebody explain the feature they love about the Samsung phones that makes stock Android yucky?

Just to name a few, AOD has more features, swipe up & down from anywhere on the home screen, better VR experience, different themes to choose from, more Bluetooth features, App pairing, etc. There's so many things to list that Samsung provides that you would need a lot of 3rd party apps to achieve on stock Android. Plus the SPen features you can't get from any other device.

 

[strikeIII]

First of all don't confuse stock Android with the pixel experience. If you want stock, flash aosp or get an essential phone.

Secondly, whether you prefer Samsung's theme(for exemple) or the Pixel's depends mainly on what you expect from your software experience, personally I can't stand to have two messaging apps, assistants or email apps on my phone, especially when they're bearing diverging design policies.

I'm a minimalist and I love me a streamlined UX. I couldn't care less about "features" like active edge or three camera sensors. And so far almost every OEM theme looks tacked on and clumsy if not straight up performance impeding.

This whole thing sounds like the iOS vs Android debate. And TBH, I'd probably be using an iPhone if it wasn't such a glorified Kindle when it comes to the possibilities in proper exploitation of a computing device and straight up productivity.

Well, this is a Samsung forum so your going to have people here who prefer Samsung Experience vs the "stock" experience. Again, the same apps is a dull argument as you can choose which one to be your default or uninstall the Google version, except for Gmail. On my Pixel 2XL I choose to use Textra over Android Messages so I have to install a second messaging app anyway. Instead of Gmail I like using Google Inbox so I have to install that. The point is we have options to choose what we want as default and hide what we don't want to use. So the argument of hating having multiple apps for the same thing on Samsung devices just sounds like an excuse that everyone uses because some reviewers say it.

 

[strikeIII]

Came here from the AC home page, after a while I thought the thread was taken over by Samsung fanboys, looked up, and yes, I was indeed in the Samsung Note 9 forum. LoL

Nothing against you guy who love your Notes, but I love my minimalist Moto Android with the light additions Moto makes. It doesn't have some sketchy Facebook installer app in there. Who knows the hooks Samsung puts in there to phone home and eat CPU, but then, same is true for Moto....

Yes the beauty of Android is we have multiple devices to choose from. Enjoy your plastic Moto.

 

[sethry16]

Having stated using Android back in the days of HTC dominance and evolving to using the Nexus line and now Pixel, I feel like the evolution of stock Android has provided plenty of new options to keep things interesting. I've used TouchWiz on a S9+ (made myself try it for two months to really get a feel for it) and it's garbage compared to my Pixel 2XL. I love the hardware I see from a lot of the OEMs out there, but no amount of amazing hardware compensates for the headache that comes from unnecessary, overloaded, and bloated (yes, bloated) software.

 

[sethry16]

What do you mean? You do have the option of which apps to use as default. I don't understand the complaint of duplicate apps when you have the choice of what to use. Or stop installing a duplicate app and use what Samsung provides.

I believe they're referring to the all the Samsung apps pre-installed that you can't uninstall, alongside the native Google apps. Some people just don't like the Samsung apps. I've tried both and I just find everything Google does to be smoother, more user-friendly, and cleaner. It's about the experience and some of us don't get that with Samsung.

 

[chyeo1979]

Having stated using Android back in the days of HTC dominance and evolving to using the Nexus line and now Pixel, I feel like the evolution of stock Android has provided plenty of new options to keep things interesting. I've used TouchWiz on a S9+ (made myself try it for two months to really get a feel for it) and it's garbage compared to my Pixel 2XL. I love the hardware I see from a lot of the OEMs out there, but no amount of amazing hardware compensates for the headache that comes from unnecessary, overloaded, and bloated (yes, bloated) software.

Are bloatwares still problem on a 512gb Note 9? ( except being an eyesore)

 

[anon(3641385)]

Having stated using Android back in the days of HTC dominance and evolving to using the Nexus line and now Pixel, I feel like the evolution of stock Android has provided plenty of new options to keep things interesting. I've used TouchWiz on a S9+ (made myself try it for two months to really get a feel for it) and it's garbage compared to my Pixel 2XL. I love the hardware I see from a lot of the OEMs out there, but no amount of amazing hardware compensates for the headache that comes from unnecessary, overloaded, and bloated (yes, bloated) software.

Couldn't agree more, I get rid of everything Google I can, it's all bloatware to me ??????????????????

 

[anon(3641385)]

Deleted the double post

For some reason, it's posting double

 

[anon(3641385)]

I believe they're referring to the all the Samsung apps pre-installed that you can't uninstall, alongside the native Google apps. Some people just don't like the Samsung apps. I've tried both and I just find everything Google does to be smoother, more user-friendly, and cleaner. It's about the experience and some of us don't get that with Samsung.

The Samsung apps are in the mix for why I buy Samsung. I use all their apps, apart from email, because I use blackberry hub

 

[bandofbrothers2112]

Are bloatwares still problem on a 512gb Note 9? ( except being an eyesore)

I disable what I can without using a package disabler and move the apps into a folder so they are out of sight.

No for a phone with 512gb of internal storage it's not an immediate issue until it gets filled up.

However for smaller storage option phones it can become an is due resulting in having to micromanage what space is left if apps can't be moved to an Sd Card etc.

 

[graylingboy]

The presence of Bixby will always make me avoid Samsung. I don't mind oems using bloat, just so long as you can remove what you don't want.

 

[bandofbrothers2112]

Couldn't agree more, I get rid of everything Google I can, it's all bloatware to me ??????????????????

To me too but what's Bloatware to one person is highly useful to another.

 

[anon(3641385)]

The presence of Bixby will always make me avoid Samsung. I don't mind oems using bloat, just so long as you can remove what you don't want.

I immediately get rid of Google voice, but it can mean that I can't use oem voice as a result, and it definitely means that I can't dictate into the blackberry keyboard, and I'm trying to remember whether it allows me to dictate in the Samsung keyboard.

Google bloat, in this case voice, sucks big time cos one can't get rid of it without consequences

 

[strikeIII]

I believe they're referring to the all the Samsung apps pre-installed that you can't uninstall, alongside the native Google apps. Some people just don't like the Samsung apps. I've tried both and I just find everything Google does to be smoother, more user-friendly, and cleaner. It's about the experience and some of us don't get that with Samsung.

I understand that they are referring to all the Samsung apps but out the box they are not duplicated alongside Googles apps, except for gmail. The end user installs them alongside Samsung apps. Which fine so at least you can use Googles apps and then just hide the Samsung ones and the duplicate app complaint is solved.

Here's why I believe Samsung has their own native apps and what people don't open their minds to. It's all about having a consistent experience. From the dialer app, contacts, calendar, messaging, email, browser, etc. Samsung wants the theme of the OS to carry accross the whole device so whatever theme the user chooses it carries along throughout the whole device and the main key apps. It provides a much cleaner and cohesive experience. Googles apps don't allow that and a lot of people find their UI to be dull, flat and boring. So Samsung is trying to tie everything together in one package. Again, if you don't like something you have the ability to use an alternative and hide what you don't use that you can't uninstall.

 

[Theot]

I immediately get rid of Google voice, but it can mean that I can't use oem voice as a result, and it definitely means that I can't dictate into the blackberry keyboard, and I'm trying to remember whether it allows me to dictate in the Samsung keyboard.

Google bloat, in this case voice, sucks big time cos one can't get rid of it without consequences ??????

Are you in the US? I know outside the US Samsung has much better support for their apps and Google doesn't and in a lot of countries there's very little google support.

 

[Mike Dee]

I'm definitely not a fan of "stock" to get the functionality of the Samsung experience you would have to download a bunch of 3rd party apps.

Or just download what you actually need

 

[strikeIII]

Or just download what you actually need

Wish it were that easy. There's a lot that Samsung offers that you can't find via 3rd party apps or if you do can be a terrible experience or implementation. When I use my 2 XL I don't even bother anymore trying to find alternatives cuz it's just a nuisance trying to figure out which app is good. Plus, since this is in the Note 9 thread, you can't get SPen features.