Would you buy another ultrapixel phone.

[Noremacam]

Is a 20 ultra pixel camera an option?

Definitely possible, but the aperture would be so huge as it would be a camera first before a phone.

 

[Fairclough]

It was a walk by one inside a stadium. You would be surprised by how low megapixels DSLR are compared to what people think you would need.

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[dotB]

I wouldn't in it's current form. Once the tech is refined again in a couple more iterations I would consider it again. But like others, I didn't get it for the 'ultrapixel.' For me, I got it for Zoe and Highlights. I use my camera quite a bit and love what these features do for me in bringing memories to life.

 

[gusar2000]

Sorry I laughed when everyone refers to pixels from cropping. I have 3 professional photographers In my family, dad said pixels only matter if you doing a billboard basically. On a pc you can't tell the difference. He did a whole billboard on a 8 mega pixel camera back in the day, claims now it's just a gimmick.

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Second this!

 

[gusar2000]

Definitely possible, but the aperture would be so huge as it would be a camera first before a phone.

Technically 100MP is possible, but you cannot beat physics. Light energy per pixel will be so low, that image would be really crappy. Even with 8MP noise is very high at low light and soft cannot solve PHYSICAL limitation.

 

[adriandb]

The limitation of a 4 MP camera phone creeps in because you have a fixed lens. So while you have 4 MP available total, if you can't get close enough to the subject you're likely only using 25-50% of those total pixels. So once you get down to cropping, you're now down to basically a one or two MP camera. While still close to the the resolution of your average display, further zooming can easily expose this shortcoming.

The ultrapixel camera does what I need it to. That being said, this is a Gen 1 implimentation of an "ultrapixel" camera, and I suspect future generations will get better and better, and that's the direction I personally want it to go.

Exactly! It's not great now, but it gets the job done in most situations. The next gen should iron out the issues we're experiencing now. On the up side I've been using my DSLR a LOT more!

 

[SCjRqrQCnBQ19QoYCtdl]

Exactly! It's not great now, but it gets the job done in most situations. The next gen should iron out the issues we're experiencing now. On the up side I've been using my DSLR a LOT more!

Interesting. I have found that I am using my DSLR very little, my RX100 less than before and the HTC One more than I have any camera I have owned.

 

[madlaw1071]

Learn from what? Phones with more MP outsell the One by wide margins. No need for the Apples and Samsungs to stop added MP's to their phones.

 

[SCjRqrQCnBQ19QoYCtdl]

Learn from what? Phones with more MP outsell the One by wide margins. No need for the Apples and Samsungs to stop added MP's to their phones.

Learn that there are advantages to the user in fewer, larger pixels.

Do you think that the next samsung is going to have 16mp? 18mp?

Will they just cede low light performance to brag about the mp count or start to ratchet back on the mp to improve low light, responsiveness and reduce file sizes?

 

[adriandb]

Will they just cede low light performance to brag about the mp count or start to ratchet back on the mp to improve low light, responsiveness and reduce file sizes?

MP count is a stupid stat, I think everyone here knows that, but there is a lower limit to what is acceptable. 16-18mp on a phone is absurd and useless, but there's a middle ground between that and the 4 we got with the One.

 

[Mr.Willie]

Learn from what? Phones with more MP outsell the One by wide margins. No need for the Apples and Samsungs to stop added MP's to their phones.

$100-$200 point and shoots outsell F4?s by a wide margin too, but it doesn't mean it's better. There are other reasons why people bought what they bought.

 

[madlaw1071]

Learn that there are advantages to the user in fewer, larger pixels.

Do you think that the next samsung is going to have 16mp? 18mp?

Will they just cede low light performance to brag about the mp count or start to ratchet back on the mp to improve low light, responsiveness and reduce file sizes?

The S4 and iPhone5 consistently rank better than the One in overall camera performance. Even in the AC review which favors the One. Nothing is ceded. Now if you want to talk learning about Zoe's and Highlights then I'm all ears

 

[ne0ne]

The s4 couldn't compare to the one in low light conditions.

Like I said above I bought it for the overall package. Its useful in more environments than other smart phone cameras. The OIS is nice as well.

HTC One - Unlocked, ARHD 12, Bulletproof Kernel, Several mods.
Nexus 7 - Cyanogenmod
Tab 2 7 - Cyanogenmod

 

[SCjRqrQCnBQ19QoYCtdl]

The S4 and iPhone5 consistently rank better than the One in overall camera performance. Even in the AC review which favors the One. Nothing is ceded. Now if you want to talk learning about Zoe's and Highlights then I'm all ears

I have used them both. I know the differences. The low light performance is better on the one.

 

[madlaw1071]

I have used them both. I know the differences. The low light performance is better on the one.

No doubt but that doesnt mean that Apple and Samsung will all of a sudden start reducing the MP count in their cameras. Heck today Nokia is announcing a 41mp phone!

 

[adriandb]

All the reviews out there tout the low light performance of the One and it is awesome, but it isn't a strong use case for a lot of users. With two young kids, I'm not out at bars/parties late when I would be taking low light pics. Just about all of my pictures are in well lit rooms or outside mid day. So while this is an area where the One's camera excels, it isn't one I ever get to see the advantage of.

The next version of the One (Two?) will need to have a better all around camera.

Heck today Nokia is announcing a 41mp phone!

That's ridiculous.

 

[madlaw1071]

All the reviews out there tout the low light performance of the One and it is awesome, but it isn't a strong use case for a lot of users. With two young kids, I'm not out at bars/parties late when I would be taking low light pics. Just about all of my pictures are in well lit rooms or outside mid day. So while this is an area where the One's camera excels, it isn't one I ever get to see the advantage of.

The next version of the One (Two?) will need to have a better all around camera.


That's ridiculous.

For me, the One's camera is all about the gimicks, Zoe's and Highlights. They are better than any of the gimmicks on the S4, even though the S4 is the better camera. Once Highlights goes 3rd party then all bets are off!

 

[SCjRqrQCnBQ19QoYCtdl]

All the reviews out there tout the low light performance of the One and it is awesome, but it isn't a strong use case for a lot of users. With two young kids, I'm not out at bars/parties late when I would be taking low light pics. Just about all of my pictures are in well lit rooms or outside mid day. So while this is an area where the One's camera excels, it isn't one I ever get to see the advantage of.

The next version of the One (Two?) will need to have a better all around camera.


That's ridiculous.

I think you over estimate the light available indoors and underestimate the value of the OIS/f2 lens/lower iso and faster shutter speeds for pics of kids indoors. Low light is pretty much anything except outdoor or super bright indoor.

 

[Wiggz]

Right, I love my HTC One...I loved my first Android HTC phone (Nexus One) and was glad that the build quality I remembered was still inherent in it's latest flagship.

However, if there is one complaint and criticism I would have, it's that their "UltraPixel" marketing gamble hasn't paid off. Yes, point and click photos are decent...but in today's market where photos are being shared more readily and phones have much improved camera tech, I think HTC dropped the ball.

In short, I would seriously consider a competitor phone over one with UltraPixel again. I think I'd try both first in the future rather than plumping as an early adopter.

 

[AdamsHouseCat]

Right, I love my HTC One...I loved my first Android HTC phone (Nexus One) and was glad that the build quality I remembered was still inherent in it's latest flagship.

However, if there is one complaint and criticism I would have, it's that their "UltraPixel" marketing gamble hasn't paid off. Yes, point and click photos are decent...but in today's market where photos are being shared more readily and phones have much improved camera tech, I think HTC dropped the ball.

In short, I would seriously consider a competitor phone over one with UltraPixel again. I think I'd try both first in the future rather than plumping as an early adopter.

....I would point out that if you are sharing your photos, it is likely that the image files you are sharing are much smaller than 4 megapixels.