The only one I've found that comes even close to what I can use was in a dollar store - with no brand name. It's about 2" long, plus a little "hang" loop,and there's no way to store it anywhere. I guess that's one of the reasons I'm still waiting for someone to come out with a Note that works - the Note stylus is fine point and stores in the phone. After over 3 years of using it, I still haven't found anything that's even acceptable, let alone almost equal.