davey11
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So, not having lte/cdma makes the n4 a fail? Verizon is one tiny speck in the sea of worldwide carriers so it's a failure if it don't operate on vz. Alrighty.
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Lol the way yall are replying are kind of proving my elitist comment...
I never once said that it was a failure for not being cdma. I did imply that it made it inaccessible for a very large portion of the American market which I would speculate is the largest market in the world(plus last time I checked there were other cdma carriers in the world even if they are minority).
Actually I never said it was a failure in any way. I said it made compromises for cost and was less of a flagship devise for storage and network constraints. Sorry of that is offensive to some of you but it's the truth...
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Well, dude, I thought I'd be Capt. Obvious to mention the iPhones don't have either and do pretty well in sales I agree that the majority of Android phones with a removable battery/sd card greatly out numbers devices without. Why? Because 99% of Android phones EVER sold had them. Take notice that that trend is changing even outside of Nexi devices. Trust me, 99.9% of Android users that consider (cough..know) software > hardware own Nexi devices or at the very least run AOSP based custom roms on their OEM skinned devices. Obviously, I'm one of them. This is why my device with dated hardware will still seem a beast to someone who just bought a DNA, N4, Optimus G, GN2 (sorry...GS3 non international is as dated as a gnex...incrementally better hardware sans camera). You seem to be a new breed of Touch Wiz fanboi. Most would only defend it as "much better than it used to be." Either way it's clear you've never owned a Nexus or know what it's all about...cause it's the software. We'll see what song you're singing in a few months when the gs3 gets no OEM love and probably even the Nexus S is getting the latest OTA software updates from Google (with poor LTE gnex 2 months behind lol). As for dev support the Nexi trump all. Even the N1 is still getting dev love.
I am in no way trying to convince you to get a Nexus. I bought a GS3. It's still in my home and it's great. Not as great as my lte nexus to me. My gf, like most people, couldn't care less about either of them as long as it works for the few things she does with a smartphone. Just pointing out some interestly flawed logic in your posts.
I think this is the bottom line - VZW doesn't want a Nexus.If they want one, they will have it. .
Much to the contrary, I've found this particular forum to have some of the nicest and most helpful enthusiasts, not elitists, in the few years I've been visiting smartphone forums. Sure, we like our devices and the Nexus experience/ideals. This is a Nexus forum. I frequent plenty of other device forums just to stay informed or kill time. Rarely if ever post in them, but I visit. I challenge you to find any number of Nexus owners trolling other forums touting how our devices are so much better. You'll find plenty of ABC device trolls in the Nexus forums. I suppose you may say elitists because I often see Nexi owners respond to "OMG 8/16gb storage and no sd card = biggest fail Google's going to burn with "so find another device that suits your needs...Google/Nexi will be fine." To me, that not snooty it's just good, solid advice. If someone comes in here spewing illogical or misinformed comments we're happy to set them straight whether touting a Nexus, OEM Android, iPhone, or Windows phone.. Here's another one for ya...any Nexus cannot "take a step back towards a developer phone" because that's exactly what the program was designed to do. If anything, it's moved forward to the general masses. You can't find a N4 in the wild because they're literally selling them faster than they can manufactuer them. So much so people are happily paying nearly twice what Google is selling them for via the play store. If that's a step back I'm sure Google and partners/retailers will take two Oh, btw memory = RAM, not storage. Plus, cdma/lte doesn't mean diddly squat to most of THE WORLD. Sorry if these facts offend you
Google Nexus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
LG Nexus 4 Still Popular Despite Expensive Price and Limited Supply [VIDEO] - International Business Times
Google Nexus 4 (LG) Online Price At $600 Due To Low Inventory | PopHerald.com
If you don't like troll fodder, please ignore this post. Sorry lol.
Well, dude, I thought I'd be Capt. Obvious to mention the iPhones don't have either and do pretty well in sales I agree that the majority of Android phones with a removable battery/sd card greatly out numbers devices without. Why? Because 99% of Android phones EVER sold had them. Take notice that that trend is changing even outside of Nexi devices. Trust me, 99.9% of Android users that consider (cough..know) software > hardware own Nexi devices or at the very least run AOSP based custom roms on their OEM skinned devices. Obviously, I'm one of them. This is why my device with dated hardware will still seem a beast to someone who just bought a DNA, N4, Optimus G, GN2 (sorry...GS3 non international is as dated as a gnex...incrementally better hardware sans camera). You seem to be a new breed of Touch Wiz fanboi. Most would only defend it as "much better than it used to be." Either way it's clear you've never owned a Nexus or know what it's all about...cause it's the software. We'll see what song you're singing in a few months when the gs3 gets no OEM love and probably even the Nexus S is getting the latest OTA software updates from Google (with poor LTE gnex 2 months behind lol). As for dev support the Nexi trump all. Even the N1 is still getting dev love.
I am in no way trying to convince you to get a Nexus. I bought a GS3. It's still in my home and it's great. Not as great as my lte nexus to me. My gf, like most people, couldn't care less about either of them as long as it works for the few things she does with a smartphone. Just pointing out some interestly flawed logic in your posts.
If they want one, they will have it. People thinking Google hates Verizon over the G Nex are waayyyyy off base.
Verizon doesn't want a Nexus, they only want Samsung iDroids and iPhones that they can monetize, and the type of customers who buy them. The worst thing that could happen to a company like Verizon is to get customers who are open to other ideas, and have a desire to investigate them. That's when people start to understand that the TV lies, and there are other options.
Your iNexus roots are showing but I get what your saying. Either your a bit off base or didn't articulate it but the way that they want to make money is by roping your into their system. Verizon could care less if you have a Samsung, Moto, or ZTE phone. They want you on contract. That is one thing that is not really gonna change much though. As long as they dangle the 12$ phone (with contract) people will buy into it. I am assuming that the "lies" you are talking about is the amount of money they "save" that way. If it other I would haveto question that.
Google needs to be the one to step up and give the consumer the choice. Make the system modular one layer OS, one layer UI. Make it easy to disable the UI layer and just have the "barebones" ui if the consumer want it. This will at least accomplish one of your goals, educating the consumer. They can choose to learn what it is like to have a skinless UI if they want.
Also it would solve another problem. You would eliminate the fragmentation of the OS. Google could push out the underlying OS without interference of the carrier or the OEM as long as they do not break anything with the API.
If you bought a GS3 and hacked it, you're just a statistic. You're that 1% of the userbase who wasn't caught up in the ad on TV. When a Nexus device on another carrier suits your needs, you'll leave. You (the metaphorical you, not you personally) want a Nexus on a cheap carrier that suits your needs. You're looking for one. Verizon will take your money while they can, but won't cater to your wants. They are interested in the people who aren't looking, and never will -- there are plenty of them.
That would be up to the vendor building the software, not Google. It won't happen, because vendors want you to use their applications instead of downloading other ones. It's working well, as even HTC made millions last quarter. Android is nothing more than 3 million lines of code -- it's not a finished product. The only say Google has in any of this is covered in the Android compatibility test to see if a device is allowed to use Google's apps. Everything else is left to the people building the phones.
. So in the end I have the REAL NEXUS experience, without all the provider BS. And Verizon can kiss my southern end if they don't like it.