I'm somewhat over this addiction. I don't need to have the latest...

[Elky64]

Lol, if you want to use the vehicle analogy, the current smartphone market is similar to having nothing but mid size sedans on the road.
No pickups, no trucks, no coupes, no convertibles, no SUV's

Just one size fits all mid size sedans...

That's what it feels like.

Yeah find myself yawning more often than not now when a new flagship arrives on scene, and usually fall asleep once pricing is revealed LOL. So kinda agree with you on this.

 

[Elky64]

If Nokia re released this running Android, I'd buy it in a heartbeat and leave my KEY2 collecting dust

Oh I'm sure one day there'll be another PKB device, it's just a matter of when and whom.

 

[jameny5]

With the cost of phones these days and the relatively iterative changes, I'm kinda done doing the yearly upgrade as well. As long as the software stays up to date, I'm good on a 2 year cycle.

It gets to people when they buy a phone that costs $500, $600, $700 or higher and try to resell the phone to a company that pays $60 or a $100 for it. After two years that resale value leaves a sour taste in their mouth. The phone should be worth more. I call those prices high end. What would be the incentive to get the next latest greatest phone? It has to be deep discounts or subsidies.

I mean you got to be careful with those $800 dollar Samsungs and $1,000 dollar iPhones. You better have some good insurance on those babies.

The last concern is sending these expensive phones out for repair and being surprised after they are supposedly fixed. Then, you find out the phone is a used model worth hundreds of dollars less than your original phone. This has happened to many people.

 

[Elky64]

I mean you got to be careful with those $800 dollar Samsungs and $1,000 dollar iPhones. You better have some good insurance on those babies.

I'd be in heaven if Samsung's and Apple's top tier phone's were anywhere near those prices in CAD dollars LOL. Double and triple those dollar figures is more like it w/Samsung leading the pack here in terms of having the highest priced phone(s).

Thankfully Samsung's A71 and Apple's new SE (both $600 here) fit into my wheelhouse. Would gladly use either and no insurance needed lol.

 

[the_boon]

Oh I'm sure one day there'll be another PKB device, it's just a matter of when and whom.

Aside from the Astro Slide by Planet Computers (the guys behind the Cosmo Communicator) there is this:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1304745876357921/permalink/1538273119671861/

 

[Ry]

It gets to people when they buy a phone that costs $500, $600, $700 or higher and try to resell the phone to a company that pays $60 or a $100 for it. After two years that resale value leaves a sour taste in their mouth. The phone should be worth more. I call those prices high end. What would be the incentive to get the next latest greatest phone? It has to be deep discounts or subsidies.

I mean you got to be careful with those $800 dollar Samsungs and $1,000 dollar iPhones. You better have some good insurance on those babies.

The last concern is sending these expensive phones out for repair and being surprised after they are supposedly fixed. Then, you find out the phone is a used model worth hundreds of dollars less than your original phone. This has happened to many people.

Aren't the Samsungs $1200?

 

[Elky64]

Aside from the Astro Slide by Planet Computers (the guys behind the Cosmo Communicator) there is this:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1304745876357921/permalink/1538273119671861/View attachment 319405

Interesting... Well there's still hope then something will evolve.

 

[Elky64]

Aren't the Samsungs $1200?

Guess since model of Samsung wasn't specified we can give them a break... This time LOL.

 

[anon(50597)]

If Nokia re released this running Android, I'd buy it in a heartbeat and leave my KEY2 collecting dust

I had that phone. It was pretty sweet back then.

 

[Morty2264]

Aren't the Samsungs $1200?

When I went to the Samsung store in October to look at buying the S10 online, my brain registered that it was definitely way over $1000 yet also seemed to want to repress the amount at the same time.

 

[Golfdriver97]

Best to take that with a grain of salt

the size of the Rock of Gibraltar.

 

[Morty2264]

the size of the Rock of Gibraltar.

LOOL I had to Google that to see what you meant!

 

[Golfdriver97]

LOOL I had to Google that to see what you meant!

Couldn't think of a bigger rock. I guess I could have said the moon...lol

 

[mustang7757]

Couldn't think of a bigger rock. I guess I could have said the moon...lol

 

[dekatch]

During the development of Android, (I started on around Android 4 to use Smartphones) they made a huge progress

I'm currently on an xiaomi Redmi 8a (100 eur) and don't experience any lagg or stuttering. Only downside is the occasional reload of apps because it has only 2gb memory. Can only do up to like 2 to 4 apps then they start to reload each time.. annoying for power users I bet, but I'm an occasional user anyway, so....


The devices begin to just work nowadays. Back then you had to constantly tweak or smth.

 

[Morty2264]

During the development of Android, (I started on around Android 4 to use Smartphones) they made a huge progress

I'm currently on an xiaomi Redmi 8a (100 eur) and don't experience any lagg or stuttering. Only downside is the occasional reload of apps because it has only 2gb memory. Can only do up to like 2 to 4 apps then they start to reload each time.. annoying for power users I bet, but I'm an occasional user anyway, so....


The devices begin to just work nowadays. Back then you had to constantly tweak or smth.

You're right. And nowadays, mid-range phones can deliver a flagship-level experience for less, so you don't *need* to have the newest or latest, most expensive phone out there.

I've used both flagship and mid-range phones and I gotta say, my Honor 8 (mid-range phone) was one of my all-time favourite experiences.

 

[Gray Area]

heck my wife's $300 samsung a51 works just fine, not as fast and smooth as my S20 ultra but definitely not $1000 worth of smoothness and speed! Also I put a random tempered glass on her A51, she didn't even have to re-register her fingerprint! I tried that on my S20 ultra and had to re-register my fingerprint and it still sucked, had to just take it off! So for some reason the fingerprint sensor is less sensitive on the a51(which is a win) if u want to use tempered glass.

You're right. And nowadays, mid-range phones can deliver a flagship-level experience for less, so you don't *need* to have the newest or latest, most expensive phone out there.

I've used both flagship and mid-range pgones and I gotta say, my Honor 8 (mid-range phone) was one of my all-time favourite experiences.

 

[Morty2264]

heck my wife's $300 samsung a51 works just fine, not as fast and smooth as my S20 ultra but definitely not $1000 worth of smoothness and speed! Also I put a random tempered glass on her A51, she didn't even have to re-register her fingerprint! I tried that on my S20 ultra and had to re-register my fingerprint and it still sucked, had to just take it off! So for some reason the fingerprint sensor is less sensitive on the a51(which is a win) if u want to use tempered glass.

Oh wow! That's crazy how those kinds of things work out, isn't it? I too have struggled with screen protectors on my S10. My mid-range, glass Honor 8, though? No problems whatsoever.

 

[Gray Area]

yeah man that's so weird. don't get me wrong, the more I use the s20 ultra the more I love it and realize it's way better than some of the criticism it's getting in the reviews but if I would've had to pay full price for it I probably wouldn't have. I was coming from a note 9 and seriously was looking at possibly getting the A71 if it came to sprint, but they gave me the ultra for free . Honestly I would've paid $1100 for it but the 1399 is just rediculous for any phone at this point. Even the ones that fold.

Oh wow! That's crazy how those kinds of things work out, isn't it? I too have struggled with screen protectors on my S10. My mid-range, glass Honor 8, though? No problems whatsoever.

 

[the_boon]

I opted for a Pixel 3a over a 3 or 4 ONLY for the extra battery life.

That alone is worth getting a solid mid ranger over a flagship.

In any given brand, a flagship is supposed to be better in every single way than a mid ranger. But we've seen that that is most definitely not always the case.