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  1. JayWill's Avatar
    Yeah I guess bars aren't always that indicative of the big picture. But to put it in perspective, when my phone is showing 6 bars, I'm at -65 dBm. At 5 bars it drops to -76 dBm.

    I just ran a few data tests on 3G which surprised me. On 3 tests I averaged 1,325 Kbps down and 682 Kbps up. I hadn't come close to those speeds all week. I guess nobody is using their phones for data in the area today heh.

    Anyhoo .. it's all about where you are guys. There's nothing wrong with this phone.
    09-23-2011 06:24 PM
  2. Officerpolabear's Avatar
    Yeah I guess bars aren't always that indicative of the big picture. But to put it in perspective, when my phone is showing 6 bars, I'm at -65 dBm. At 5 bars it drops to -76 dBm.

    I just ran a few data tests on 3G which surprised me. On 3 tests I averaged 1,325 Kbps down and 682 Kbps up. I hadn't come close to those speeds all week. I guess nobody is using their phones for data in the area today heh.

    Anyhoo .. it's all about where you are guys. There's nothing wrong with this phone.
    ^ this. Everyone thinks that the signal is the phone's fault when it's actually the location. Some places have better Sprint coverage than Verizon/AT&T/T-Mobile and vice versa. So don't bash on this phone or the carrier!
    09-23-2011 06:32 PM
  3. bobby35ny's Avatar
    ^ this. Everyone thinks that the signal is the phone's fault when it's actually the location. Some places have better Sprint coverage than Verizon/AT&T/T-Mobile and vice versa. So don't bash on this phone or the carrier!
    It's the phones fault, not the carrier, I've been comparing both my phone and my wifes EVO, EVO has no dead spots where I live but the Sammy starts roaming or I can't make the call. I can walk up the stairs in my house and lose Wifi and the Evo is still connected to wifi, so YES, its the phone!! Hoping for a fast software update to fix the radios.
    -bobby
    09-23-2011 07:04 PM
  4. sjamie's Avatar
    I've heard that the bars only represent how much signal you get for call quality/texting as those don't require 3G. Sometimes, you will be able to get high speed even though you only have 1-2 bars but usually, the 3G speed are relevant to your signal bars. Sometimes it isn't. I forgot where, but when I had 1 bar only on my service, I got 1.24mbps down and 0.74mbps up and when I have 6 bars, my speed would only be 200kbps-500kbps down and the uploads were 100-300kbps up.
    I've experienced the same thing many times. It has always perplexed me.
    09-23-2011 07:06 PM
  5. Bmwillz's Avatar
    ^ this. Everyone thinks that the signal is the phone's fault when it's actually the location. Some places have better Sprint coverage than Verizon/AT&T/T-Mobile and vice versa. So don't bash on this phone or the carrier!
    well explain my case. epic 4g original had great service where i live new york / new jersey and every since i activated my epic touch its been awful compared to what was. 4g wont stay connected for more than 10 minutes and 3g goes in and out.......? plus wont connect to wifi in my house laptop, ipad, original epic and evo shift all connected
    09-23-2011 07:09 PM
  6. sjamie's Avatar
    Poor signal? This is sitting here in my office building.

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    I absolutely love your wallpaper. Where did you get it from?
    09-23-2011 07:10 PM
  7. tkemack's Avatar
    I've experienced the same thing many times. It has always perplexed me.
    It's because sprint utilizes one radio for data and another for calls and text.

    sent from my Samsung Galaxy S2 Epic longest phone name in the world Touch 4G
    09-23-2011 07:13 PM
  8. whatsitsname's Avatar
    It's definitely a phone problem. I never had a problem making a call with my previous phones (Evo, Photon). Admitted mu home don't get the greatest signal but it never drop calls like it does now. The Epic Touch keep switching between roaming and 0-1 bar while stationary in my house. Needless to say it cuts in and out then drops the call. This is my second Epic Touch.
    09-23-2011 07:34 PM
  9. adma84's Avatar
    Listen everyone, if you are having issues, please contact SamsungSupport on twitter Samsung Support on Twitter They are very responsive, and the more noise you make, the more likely it is to be escalated.
    09-23-2011 08:00 PM
  10. johnkim575's Avatar
    Samsung almost made a perfect product but they had to screw up the most important aspect of a phone ..SIGNAL QUALITY ..the phone has horrendous signal issues with 3g and normal call network signal ..its almost unusable indoors!!! I am in Houston and this is a major Sprint area.. it also effects battery life majorly ..example ..I was indoors for 2 hours taking a test and the battery dropped 10 percent without me using it.. and this is not a Sprint problem its a cheap and poor antenna problem ..
    09-23-2011 09:02 PM
  11. johnkim575's Avatar
    signal is not as strong as my old evo 4g. Not a big enough problem for me to return it.
    09-23-2011 09:06 PM
  12. sfhub's Avatar
    I'm not doubting anyone else's experiences, just providing my own.

    I borrowed 2 phones and put them side-by-side with E4GT. I got the RX power from ##DEBUG#. This was all on PCS ch25 indoors stationary and native Sprint signal.

    -91 dBm - Samsung Epic 4G Touch
    -92 dBm - LG Optimus S
    -92 dBm - HTC Touch Pro

    I moved around a bit and the signal levels ranged from -89 dBm to -101 dBm, however the 3 phones were always within 3 dBm of each other as long I held them in place and allowed them to settle. I'm confident the E4GT I was testing is performing similar to other phones. It is possible not all the E4GT phones are built the same or there is some other factor going on, maybe different channel or CLR vs PCS channel.

    I know the earlier Epic 4G had a bug where it couldn't roam on PCS channels but could on CLR.
    09-23-2011 10:02 PM
  13. JayWill's Avatar
    I absolutely love your wallpaper. Where did you get it from?
    I got it from a neat little wallpaper application called Wallpapers HD. It's free on the market.
    sjamie likes this.
    09-23-2011 10:12 PM
  14. tkemack's Avatar
    Jay, I'm looking for you

    sent from my Samsung Galaxy S2 Epic longest phone name in the world Touch 4G
    09-23-2011 10:14 PM
  15. JayWill's Avatar
    Jay, I'm looking for you

    sent from my Samsung Galaxy S2 Epic longest phone name in the world Touch 4G
    *hides*
    09-23-2011 10:16 PM
  16. tkemack's Avatar
    LOL nah not like that....check pm and also the other threads about android OS. I think im onto something
    09-23-2011 10:20 PM
  17. bobby35ny's Avatar
    I'm not doubting anyone else's experiences, just providing my own.

    I borrowed 2 phones and put them side-by-side with E4GT. I got the RX power from ##DEBUG#. This was all on PCS ch25 indoors stationary and native Sprint signal.

    -91 dBm - Samsung Epic 4G Touch
    -92 dBm - LG Optimus S
    -92 dBm - HTC Touch Pro

    I moved around a bit and the signal levels ranged from -89 dBm to -101 dBm, however the 3 phones were always within 3 dBm of each other as long I held them in place and allowed them to settle. I'm confident the E4GT I was testing is performing similar to other phones. It is possible not all the E4GT phones are built the same or there is some other factor going on, maybe different channel or CLR vs PCS channel.

    I know the earlier Epic 4G had a bug where it couldn't roam on PCS channels but could on CLR.
    I just went outside and placed both phone on a bench 4 feet apart, I got the below
    -89 dBm EVO 4G
    -74 dBm Samsung

    -bobby
    09-23-2011 10:35 PM
  18. sfhub's Avatar
    I just went outside and placed both phone on a bench 4 feet apart, I got the below
    -89 dBm EVO 4G
    -74 dBm Samsung

    -bobby
    Your Samsung is getting way better signal than your Evo 4G. That's pretty impressive.

    Given what I was reading I was happy just to get the same performance as other phones. It seems the Sammy is capable of either much better performance than other phones or somehow your Evo is not performing up to par.

    If they are 4 feet apart try swapping positions too.
    09-23-2011 11:20 PM
  19. willysp's Avatar
    Poor signal? This is sitting here in my office building.

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    The number of colorful bars mean nothing on any phone

    Care to show us screenshots of your phone and other phones showing signal strength in dBm relative to the same tower?

    09-23-2011 11:49 PM
  20. sjamie's Avatar
    I got it from a neat little wallpaper application called Wallpapers HD. It's free on the market.
    I found it. Perfect! Thank you.
    09-23-2011 11:50 PM
  21. sjamie's Avatar
    It's because sprint utilizes one radio for data and another for calls and text.

    sent from my Samsung Galaxy S2 Epic longest phone name in the world Touch 4G
    True, but I thought many bars equal high call quality AND fast data. If the bars don't really reflect data speed quality, is there any way to just look at your phone to see if your data speeds are relatively good without having to run an actual speed test?
    09-23-2011 11:54 PM
  22. willysp's Avatar
    I just went outside and placed both phone on a bench 4 feet apart, I got the below
    -89 dBm EVO 4G
    -74 dBm Samsung

    -bobby
    That's encouraging. My EVO 4G and 3D have never done well in my house. My Photon does fine. We'll see about the SGSIIE4GT....
    09-23-2011 11:59 PM
  23. JayWill's Avatar
    The number of colorful bars mean nothing on any phone

    Care to show us screenshots of your phone and other phones showing signal strength in dBm relative to the same tower?

    I posted my dBm at 5 and 6 bars down a bit from that first post. I don't have another phone to compare it to though sorry. Well unless you want to see it against a Palm Pre, which I doubt. :-)
    09-24-2011 12:08 AM
  24. bobby35ny's Avatar
    Your Samsung is getting way better signal than your Evo 4G. That's pretty impressive.

    Given what I was reading I was happy just to get the same performance as other phones. It seems the Sammy is capable of either much better performance than other phones or somehow your Evo is not performing up to par.

    If they are 4 feet apart try swapping positions too.
    Meanwhile, the EVO gets a signal when my sammy don't.
    I'm going to do another comparison where the evo gets a signal and the sammy don't.
    -bobby
    09-24-2011 12:16 AM
  25. nkd's Avatar
    I dont believe this thing about bad signal quality. I live in low service area the phone gets the same signal strength that the photon did, which I traded in for sgs2. I dont know whats wrong with your phones, but this phone gets stronger signal in the same spot as my dads evo 3d.
    09-24-2011 12:18 AM
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