TheLibertarian
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So why do you keep responding to me? Why am I not on your ignore list?
I like talking at you, we all do.
So why do you keep responding to me? Why am I not on your ignore list?
I think it goes right back to the idea of a phone in general. I do not find myself in need of constant access to large video files or a million hours worth of MP3s. I would say that is also the same with the vast majority of phone users. Who has that kind of time?! haha. Video isn't so great on a screen smaller than 7". If you are the type that likes to carry their entire library of media with them everywhere they go locally on their phone, I would say that is definitely niche... again, going back to the preferred usage for a phone vs tablet or other. I think devices that do include huge amounts of storage are simply just battling a spec war to outdo the competitor. I guess I need to get an idea specifically what exactly do people with huge storage needs actually do with it to understand here.
If adding that storage also means keeping the low price options, I can roll with it. But as discussed, I think Google has an agenda here for the cloud. It seems we are trying to mold the perfect device between all our needs. I'm not sure that has ever been accomplished with anything. haha. I just think you will find what you want eventually, but you smply have to wait for vanilla android to be the driving market factor with all of them. Google is the least likely to comply with the storage part.
Does it require an external power source like the Nexus 4 does? Or did google design it correctly for the nexus 7?
I thought you said Google isn't a hardware maker. You sure do contradict yourself a lot.
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I guess I need to get an idea specifically what exactly do people with huge storage needs actually do with it to understand here.
Well, I'll try to get the ball rolling.
Google Translate has language packs that you can download to use when you're offline. The problem is that they're huge. So let's say that you're taking a trip to Europe, and you want to load several languages to help you speak to the local people. You'll need a lot of space to hold all the languages you need. But once you have them loaded, you don't need access to the cloud. You can select a language and just type or speak. Google Translate handles the rest. Certainly, if you're only going to a single country that only has speakers of one language, you can save a lot of space by only downloading that one language and none of the other languages.
I'll try to think of other scenarios, but feel free to discuss.
I agree with you. Do we really need a quad core processor in a phone, I doubt it, but in the spec war it looks great. Same with the displays, is a Ultra HD display really necessary on a 4.4 inch screen that is a foot from your eye? All the things that a phone can possibly do, are pretty much being done already in my opinion. So in order to differentiate your phone from the competition, more cores, more memory, bigger screen, more pixels, etc. are the talking points of the sales people trying to get you to upgrade and pay upwards of $700 for a new phone that doesn't do much more than the one you may presently own. And by the way, with the subsidized pricing of the phones with a contract, that is just about what you will wind up paying for most decent phones. That is what I really love about the Nexus 4. It costs $350 which is about 50% of the cost of comparable phones without an expensive contract and stuffed with unwanted bloatware to help pay for it.
I think they will be better. All of them have slightly better specs. The One has a significantly better camera IMO, and front stereo speakers. The S4 will have an upgradable battery.
Not sure why the Xperia series never appealed to me. On paper there is no reason it shouldn't. They always have good specs and Sony is on board with Vanilla Android. Sony has been much better than HTC or Samsung when it came to updates. Just never liked the way they look I guess.
People on here seem to think that buying a product means you are not allowed to criticize it. The complaining of other owners was useful to me in deciding to purchase stuff in the past. So I would like to see it continue. I do not want opinions only from fanboys.
I knew the limitations of the nexus before I bought it. I chose to buy it anyway. It's assets made up for it's flaws.
The Nexus 5 will be the Motorola X, wait and see.
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I have an Asus Transformer (TF700) as well. My model has an SD slot...an external one that is easily accessible. No dongle required. It also has gotten updates quickly. Asus gets it.You're gonna laugh. I got a super cheap refurbed 8GB for just over a hundo. lol
I also have a 10" Asus EEEpad transformer that really serves as our movie media workhorse. The SD adapter trick works nicely though for swapping the SD card from the EEEpad to the N7 if/when needed (rarely).
It is probably because you are ignoring half of what I say. If you pay attention you will find the contradictions are no longer there.I thought you said Google isn't a hardware maker. You sure do contradict yourself a lot.
So apparently being "closed minded and argumentative" makes me appealing to you.I like talking at you, we all do.
It is probably because you are ignoring half of what I say. If you pay attention you will find the contradictions are no longer there.
They do not sell phones to make money...that is what I meant by hardware maker. Google DESIGNS the hardware as far as specs and features...they do not make it themselves. They tell other companies what they want and those companies make it for them.
I hope you got it that time. Repeating myself wastes both our time.
I am glad we agree you are ignoring half of what I say. I explains a lot.I ignore half of what you say because half of what you say makes no sense.
Yes.Ok, so now we add that Google dictated how the GE S4 and One are designed.
...as far as specs and features. Google did not design the components. The Nexus 4 is an LG phone with the features and specs google wanted it to have. LG designed the actual phone though, not google.So they are designed by Google
If you continue to ignore what I am saying, the mystery will continue as well.I'm still trying to figure why anyone would argue they are not Google phones. Lol.
Ok, so now we add that Google dictated how the GE S4 and One are designed. So they are designed by Google, run Google software, will be updated directly thru Google, sold directly thru the Google Playstore, and are titled Google Edition. I'm still trying to figure why anyone would argue they are not Google phones. Lol.
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Yes.
...as far as specs and features. Google did not design the components. The Nexus 4 is an LG phone with the features and specs google wanted it to have. LG designed the actual phone though, not google.
I am glad we agree you are ignoring half of what I say. I explains a lot.
If you are going to continue ignoring half of what I say then these misunderstandings will continue as well. Nothing I have said is contradictory if you do not ignore half of what I say.
Yes.
...as far as specs and features. Google did not design the components. The Nexus 4 is an LG phone with the features and specs google wanted it to have. LG designed the actual phone though, not google.
If you continue to ignore what I am saying, the mystery will continue as well.
There are no google factories. There are LG factories. LG is producing the phones, not google. Google is just telling them what they want the phones to do.
Example: When you buy a new car, and tell the dealer what you want the car to have as far as it's options...does that mean you designed the car or manufactured it?
So the N4 is not a Google phone since it was manufactured by LG. I never realized subsidizing the build of a product no longer makes it yours.
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Google did not design how the GE S4 and ONE were designed. The Google edition s4 and ONE were designed and manufactured by their own own perspective manufacturers. Google is simply taking these predefined phones, and supplementing their operating systems with it's own, likely to have a few tweaks to retain a few individual features such as beats for the one. Neither of the two are "Google phones." They are a Samsung phone, and an HTC phone, running Google's vanilla software. They are a special edition phone, of sorts.
You are correct about the nexus, however.
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How is Google supplementing their software with its own? They already run Google's software. They only difference is they are not adding their own interface to them. Apparently that is the key. If LG were to take the N4 and modify the interface of the operating system to it's own designs, I take nobody would consider it a Google phone anymore. So, since we know that Google does not build phones and we know that all the manufacturers start off what vanilla android before adding their own interface, what defines a phone as being Googles? We know now it isn't a phone that runs vanilla Android that is sold thru the Playstore.
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