16 gigs is just way too small, I don't want to put stuff on the cloud.

[Scott7217]

For all intents and purposes from the consumer's perspective, I believe the N5 is a done deal. Whatever prototypes have been offered to Google to select from have long been constructed. I have no idea of knowing if they've selected yet (but with it 4-5 months away, we can assume that if they haven't, it'll be within the next 30-60 days to give them time to establish production), but more than likely the bid devices are very similar to the 2013 flagships for each respective OEM.

I was just asking if there was anything in particular that you were looking forward to in the next Nexus smartphone. I hear rumors that it will have a 5-inch screen.

By the way, do you need the phone to pass the FCC before you can start production? I always get confused about when the manufacturer submits it for approval.

 

[Aquila]

By the way, do you need the phone to pass the FCC before you can start production? I always get confused about when the manufacturer submits it for approval.

I'm not sure when it's required, but it typically happens prior to production for all devices that are meant to be sold or used in the US. For example the Moto X devices, expected between July and October (most likely closer to October) began hitting the FCC approved site in May (might have been the end of April for the first one, I don't recall exactly but I'm pretty sure it was May 10th.) while production runs have not begun, as far as we know. Another example, the S4 was approved in March and April, for a May release, while the One was approved in February for a late April release.

 

[Scott7217]

I already answered that. I find it entertaining. It's like watching an intersection with broken traffic lights.

I agree that it's entertaining. Here we have people with different viewpoints on the same device. We simply don't agree on how much storage should be on it. I guess the only thing we agree upon is that we all like stock Android, right?

 

[Scott7217]

They were given a hanging curve by Google to produce one. Maybe Google has done them and all the SD fans a favor by leaving this little bit of meat on the bone for them to develop? Maybe this was all by design? In fact, your biggest clue is LG's phone that is exactly the same except for LTE and SD = what you are seeking except for vanilla droid.

LTE would be nice. I could use either more internal storage, a micro SD card, or even both.

A possible overlooked benefit of a micro SD card is that Apple can't claim the Nexus is copying them in a lawsuit. None of the existing iPhones have micro SD, so putting a slot for one adds an additional line of defense if Apple were to bring LG to court. (Of course, Apple could sue for different reasons... but that's what lawyers are for.)

 

[fernandezhjr]

Is there anything you would like changed that would go into the Nexus 5? I think everyone is expecting that to come out in November.

It would be nice to have a 32gb model for those that want the additional storage, but I would still want a 16gb model at a similar price point as the N4. The N5 will definitely need to have LTE. I would like to see improvements in what I consider the two weaknesses of the N4, the radio and sound. I think most cases of bad battery life stem from the radio and the rear speaker could be improved upon. Overall, if we get a N5, that is equal to the N4, but updated and with enhancements and improvements, it will be a win win, especially if we get similar pricing.

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 4 Beta

 

[minnemike]

What carrier were you using in Newport Beach? Or were you on wifi?

Tmo, near the famous "Wedge" body surfing spot.

 

[Captainbob767]

If they made a Nexus 5 with 3 models, 8GB, 16GB and 32 GB, I would buy the 16 GB model again. I could probably get away using the 8GB model, since I never even had that much on my last phone which had a 16GB SD card in it, but I would still get the 16GB. I would have no use for the 32 GB, unless it was maybe a couple of dollars more than the 16GB.

 

[minnemike]

Where do you think the 8 GB Nexus 7 went wrong? It's connected to the cloud via wifi, so the amount of local storage shouldn't affect its performance, right?

Anyway, I would support you if you wanted an 8 GB Nexus 7 with a 3G radio, just like I support the OP wanting a 32 GB Nexus 4. Choice is good.

wifi only is too limiting with that small storage.... for me, tablets get the most large media usage on the road away from constant wifi... at home it's all about the big tv and stereo. Adding a radio, it is truly an everywhere device.

 

[minnemike]

I'm not so certain that enormous local storage only appeals to a niche crowd. If it were, we wouldn't have products with high capacity storage available for purchase. Someone must be buying them, right?

Anyway, consider yourself lucky that you have excellent cell signal coverage. I only hear that Verizon provides that level of coverage, and Verizon does not support the Nexus 4.

I think it goes right back to the idea of a phone in general. I do not find myself in need of constant access to large video files or a million hours worth of MP3s. I would say that is also the same with the vast majority of phone users. Who has that kind of time?! haha. Video isn't so great on a screen smaller than 7". If you are the type that likes to carry their entire library of media with them everywhere they go locally on their phone, I would say that is definitely niche... again, going back to the preferred usage for a phone vs tablet or other. I think devices that do include huge amounts of storage are simply just battling a spec war to outdo the competitor. I guess I need to get an idea specifically what exactly do people with huge storage needs actually do with it to understand here.

If adding that storage also means keeping the low price options, I can roll with it. But as discussed, I think Google has an agenda here for the cloud. It seems we are trying to mold the perfect device between all our needs. I'm not sure that has ever been accomplished with anything. haha. I just think you will find what you want eventually, but you smply have to wait for vanilla android to be the driving market factor with all of them. Google is the least likely to comply with the storage part.

 

[Captainbob767]

I think it goes right back to the idea of a phone in general. I do not find myself in need of constant access to large video files or a million hours worth of MP3s. I would say that is also the same with the vast majority of phone users. Who has that kind of time?! haha. Video isn't so great on a screen smaller than 7". If you are the type that likes to carry their entire library of media with them everywhere they go locally on their phone, I would say that is definitely niche... again, going back to the preferred usage for a phone vs tablet or other. I think devices that do include huge amounts of storage are simply just battling a spec war to outdo the competitor. I guess I need to get an idea specifically what exactly do people with huge storage needs actually do with it to understand here.

I agree with you. Do we really need a quad core processor in a phone, I doubt it, but in the spec war it looks great. Same with the displays, is a Ultra HD display really necessary on a 4.4 inch screen that is a foot from your eye? All the things that a phone can possibly do, are pretty much being done already in my opinion. So in order to differentiate your phone from the competition, more cores, more memory, bigger screen, more pixels, etc. are the talking points of the sales people trying to get you to upgrade and pay upwards of $700 for a new phone that doesn't do much more than the one you may presently own. And by the way, with the subsidized pricing of the phones with a contract, that is just about what you will wind up paying for most decent phones. That is what I really love about the Nexus 4. It costs $350 which is about 50% of the cost of comparable phones without an expensive contract and stuffed with unwanted bloatware to help pay for it.

 

[JeffDenver]

I already answered that. I find it entertaining. It's like watching an intersection with broken traffic lights.

Then stop complaining about other people complaining. You are listening to it by choice. No one is forcing you to read or respond to anyone's "whiney" posts.

The point of an Android forum is to discuss Android stuff. Thats all we're doing. Complaining about flaws is a form of discussion.

 

[JeffDenver]

I think the Google Edition phones will probably be the equivalent of the Nexus with micro SD support.

I think they will be better. All of them have slightly better specs. The One has a significantly better camera IMO, and front stereo speakers. The S4 will have an upgradable battery.

Out of all the ones I've heard, I think the Sony Xperia Z is the closest one to the Nexus experience since it does not use physical buttons on the front.

Not sure why the Xperia series never appealed to me. On paper there is no reason it shouldn't. They always have good specs and Sony is on board with Vanilla Android. Sony has been much better than HTC or Samsung when it came to updates. Just never liked the way they look I guess.

 

[Unicorn Rancher]

So, if you don't have a 3G radio on your tablet, you need more storage? Why? Can't you access the cloud using wifi?

Sure. Not as easily or as often as a phone, because there's much better 3G/4G coverage than wifi coverage in this town, but I do access the cloud with my tablet and 16GB internal is plenty.

 

[JeffDenver]

Sure. Not as easily or as often as a phone, because there's much better 3G/4G coverage than wifi coverage in this town, but I do access the cloud with my tablet and 16GB internal is plenty.

I have been assured by many people in this thread that wifi is plentiful and free and is everywhere. So there was obviously no reason to put out any tablet with more than 8 gigs.

 

[Captainbob767]

I have been assured by many people in this thread that wifi is plentiful and free and is everywhere. So there was obviously no reason to put out any tablet with more than 8 gigs.

Users are more inclined to watch movies on a tablet than on a phone so more storage on a tablet makes much more sense especially for people that travel a great deal.

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2

 

[JeffDenver]

Users are more inclined to watch movies on a tablet than on a phone so more storage on a tablet makes much more sense especially for people that travel a great deal.

So we agree the Nexus 7 should have had SD then. Seems that would have solved the issue nicely.

Why did they not put out a 32 gig version to begin with if this is what people use tablets for? We agree that tablet users are far more likely to need local storage, right?

 

[minnemike]

Then stop complaining about other people complaining. You are listening to it by choice. No one is forcing you to read or respond to anyone's "whiney" posts.

The point of an Android forum is to discuss Android stuff. Thats all we're doing. Complaining about flaws is a form of discussion.

Wow. Did you even read that? Who is complaining here? I am saying you keep it up! It's entertaining! Stop putting words in my mouth please.

 

[minnemike]

So we agree the Nexus 7 should have had SD then. Seems that would have solved the issue nicely.

Why did they not put out a 32 gig version to begin with if this is what people use tablets for? We agree that tablet users are far more likely to need local storage, right?

You actually can use an SD card just fine on the N7, via dongle.

 

[minnemike]

I have been assured by many people in this thread that wifi is plentiful and free and is everywhere. So there was obviously no reason to put out any tablet with more than 8 gigs.

On the road includes in a car. This is the primary role my tablets play = kids watching movies. This is why they still sell tablets greater than 8GB without a radio.

 

[JeffDenver]

You actually can use an SD card just fine on the N7, via dongle.

Does it require an external power source like the Nexus 4 does? Or did google design it correctly for the nexus 7?