16 gigs is just way too small, I don't want to put stuff on the cloud.

[minnemike]

Hypothetically speaking, do you think Google will eventually discontinue the 16 GB Nexus 4 and only sell the 8 GB model? By reducing the storage further, Google forces everyone to use even more of their cloud services.

I'm not saying that it's going to happen, but if Google makes more money from the cloud, they have an incentive to offer as little storage as possible in a device.

The 8 or 16GB choice is more about the number of apps you run, not media storage.

 

[JeffDenver]

It's my opinion that it's typically the person who made an impulsive purchase and/or didn't do their necessary research that has the most remorse. For example, I own a Nexus 4 and am very satisfied with it.

So am I. I knew it had crappy storage and decided to buy it despite it's flaws. That does not mean it's flaws should be ignored or that I should be forbidden to discuss them on a forum. The OP is entitled to their opinion just like you are...why should it bother you that they do not like an aspect of the phone?

I paid as much attention to what the average user had to say about the device as the "professional" reviewer. Upon buying the phone, I already knew that the colors on the screen were a bit washed out.

It is another google design flaw, but fortunately, this flaw is repairable. The Franco kernel allows you to adjust the gamma on the display. The colors on MY Nexus 4 are not washed out, and look as vibrant as any iPhone.

At what point is device storage large enough that is sufficient to no longer be a flaw, but instead to be enough to which most people shouldn't need worry? What's that number where complaints will cease?

At the moment, 64 gigs. 64 gigs of internal memory would be expensive, but 64 gigs of external SD memory would satisfy everyone, and it would cost google little or nothing to add that option.

This was an ideological decision IMO, not a financial one. Google does not want you to use local storage.

 

[JeffDenver]

Honestly, I can't agree with you. I've always had enough space left over, even with the sparse 16GB storage only available. The key is to uninstall any useless crap on your phone.

As an end user, why should I be required to uninstall anything at all when it is not necessary to do so? Why is it unreasonable for me to be able to carry around my entire MP3 library, or vacation photos and videos, or whatever?

Once the Google Edition smartphones are up for sale, Google could see if people are happy with the storage on them, then apply what they learn to the Nexus line.

I doubt that they will, but at that point it will no longer matter. Because better choices will be available. This is the beauty of an open OS.

 

[gone down south]

Its not a design flaw, its a design choice.

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Android Central Forums

 

[JeffDenver]

Its not a design flaw, its a design choice.

What does it add to the device? How does limiting my choice make it a better phone?

Thats why it is a flaw.

 

[olgeezer44]

Box has that function. I downloaded FolderSync and you can choose which folders to update, how often you want to update them as well as to only update them via WiFi

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I'm just learning this stuff so many thanks for that tip, Emma. I just installed Box yesterday. Free is great!! 50gb will be plenty for me.

 

[TheLibertarian]

As an end user, why should I be required to uninstall anything at all when it is not necessary to do so? Why is it unreasonable for me to be able to carry around my entire MP3 library, or vacation photos and videos, or whatever?

It's a free country, and an open market. What you spend your money on is your prerogative. Nobody is arguing that.

But, if storage is so valuable to you that in darn near every thread you feel compelled to voice your displeasure with this devices lack of storage, maybe you chose poorly.

All we're telling you is you have the ability to financially invest in any device, and you have a great forum to research the Android community.

So why then, do you feel it necessary to ceaselessly harp on this devices lack of storage when you knew the product you were buying before you bought it? It's not a design flaw, and it's not going to change; it's time you accept that.

The Nexus 4 has 16GB, maximum, of on-board storage. That's the reality, and it's not changing. Let's get past this already for goodness sake.

 

[Unicorn Rancher]

There is no end to a discussion with an illogical user.

I understand criticizing Google. And when the device was unveiled, I understood the endless bickering about lack of LTE and limiting storage.

However, once one purchases the device, why would said user be complaining? I'm with you entirely on that one. No device is perfect, and no company is without fault.

But to buy a device and ceaselessly complain about its shortcomings leaves the rest of us questioning the person's intelligence who bought a device that didn't suit their needs.

I agree. If someone purchases a Mazda Miata and complains that the trunk is too small, that reflects more on them than it does on Mazda. Similarly, if someone buys a Ford E350 van and complains they only get 12mpg, that says more about their intelligence and common sense than it does about Ford's engineers.

 

[dkhmwilliams]

I like Google's current direction of pushing cloud storage. I find it to be a lot easier to deal with and to access across devices. I have the 16Gb version Nexus and I have more than enough space on it. I have learned to use space management with certain things and it works just fine.

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Android Central Forums

 

[JeffDenver]

So why then, do you feel it necessary to ceaselessly harp on this devices lack of storage when you knew the product you were buying before you bought it?

Why does my opinion tick you off so much?

 

[JeffDenver]

I like Google's current direction of pushing cloud storage. I find it to be a lot easier to deal with and to access across devices.

Therefore it is a good thing that other people's choices are limited?

If your phone had SD options, no one would be forcing you to use them. You could still use the cloud, and we could use SD, and everyone would be happier. Right?

 

[Unicorn Rancher]

Of course you could just buy a corvette...but if you do, the only color you can pick is bright pink, and the only radio station you can shoose is Easy listening. Enjoy your choice.

And somehow you'll find some way to blame that on Toyota.

 

[JeffDenver]

Like I said, you'd be annoyed with Toyota too for limiting your options simply because of an ideology. Even if you still ended up buying the car because it was better than the alternatives.

 

[mr_nobody]

Why does my opinion tick you off so much?

Because you repeat it ad nauseum?

 

[dkhmwilliams]

Therefore it is a good thing that other people's choices are limited?

If your phone had SD options, no one would be forcing you to use them. You could still use the cloud, and we could use SD, and everyone would be happier. Right?

I'm not concerned with others. Just me.

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[minnemike]

I like Google's current direction of pushing cloud storage. I find it to be a lot easier to deal with and to access across devices. I have the 16Gb version Nexus and I have more than enough space on it. I have learned to use space management with certain things and it works just fine.

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Me too! Love cloud services. I have 4 different android devices and love the fact that I simply update media in one place and they all have the same access to it!

 

[Aquila]

16GB is not a design flaw... that's the design. A flaw would be if it somehow had 17GB or 0. If we're going to compare devices to cars, an SD card is surely a tow-behind trailer. Some people need them, some people don't. Does every car need it? Nope. Is it cool to have the option? Yep. The cloud in this analogy is a delivery service, bringing your stuff directly to your door. Except it's free.

It's absolutely disgusting to see every thread about storage turned into this insipid argument about SD cards. Do some research and understand why they're being removed, what the other options are and what the issues are with continued usage. This "plant the flag and fight to the death" mentality is completely inappropriate. I absolutely want options in Android, but that includes the option to get rid of features that are controversial and add new features, etc.

I absolutely must have a sound proof room in my house. I've never started flaming other homeowners because they do not have/need one, or started crying to the internet that all houses should be built with sound proof rooms just in case someone might need it. Some people need things that others don't and don't need things that others do. Not every device has to have every option under the sun, you use your dollars to vote for the one that best fits what you need.

For people saying, "once you buy it, you can't complain... "; of course you can. Using the device gives you a wider knowledge base and the limitations that it has become more or less relevant to you in that usage. Now, if you went into the deal saying, "I know I need 32GB + an SD card, but I'll get the 16GB version anyways because that's all they have; now it's not working out, so I'll complain", clearly you're a moron and need to be more proactive in your decision making procedures. But if you said, "I only used 10GB on my last device and so 16 is okay" then run out of space, now you know 16GB is not okay for your current usage pattern, but the assumption was that it would be. In this case you learned something, and now you can learn the other ways to manage your device (cloud, syncing, etc) or you can buy a different device.

Notice that in neither scenario did the person declare war on high or low storage devices, types of storage, the internet in general or companies that will never read a word of your railing against them. They pay attention to dollars.

 

[berdinkerdickle]

The cloud is not free.
Sending and receiving files uses data services.

 

[Aquila]

The cloud is not free.
Sending and receiving files uses data services.

You're right, I mean that there is no direct cost for use for many of the services, in that Google is not sending you a bill for uploading your contacts, photos, etc; there is an indirect cost if you're paying per mb of data and using more than your allotment to do so, etc.

 

[frekiluv]

1. Get an OTG cable (on the go)
2. Store non-essential media to thumb drive
3. You can also use OTG to backup your entire phone to an external drive.
OR
1. Get a WiFi enabled external drive.
2. Put media on drive.
3. Put drive in pocket, purse, backpack, or whatever.

composed by my imaginary construct for you.