4G info for those in Tampa,FL

Tampa is official now on Sprint.com. Clear.com's coverage shows a larger area covered than Sprint, I guess that's more future coverage.
 
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Tampa is official now on Sprint.com. Clear.com's coverage shows a larger area covered than Sprint, I guess that's more future coverage.

Is anyone familiar with Clear's website and how reliable the "future coverage" is? As someone mentioned there's 40% still to go in Tampa due to nesting birds, wouldn't Clear show this as "future coverage" on their map? If this is all we're going to get, I think I'll be back with T-Mobile and their HSDPA+ come the new year... having voice and data work simultaneously, which isn't possible with Sprint 3G, is kind of a deal breaker for me.
 
I live in riverview and work around Dale Mabry and MLK .. I cannot get 4g on the NE side of my office but the map shows I am covered, this is kinda frustrating. Any ideas, I already checked for PRL updates.
 
Is anyone familiar with Clear's website and how reliable the "future coverage" is? As someone mentioned there's 40% still to go in Tampa due to nesting birds, wouldn't Clear show this as "future coverage" on their map?

First I want to mention that I think the network has some release day bugs. I normally get decent coverage with 4-6 Mb speeds where I work. This morning I can't connect even when outside.

Also, I think the Clear map shows the latest coverage though it's not as well tested as the Sprint map. Sprint's complained in the past that Clear rushes the network out and fills in the blanks after the release. This leads me to believe Sprint is taking a more conservative approach on their map.

Third, I don't think the Clear map is complete as it's not showing any tower locations or future coverage. From my experience in Chicago, they won't be leaving whole towns like Tarpon Springs and New Tampa without any coverage while covering areas like New Port Richey through Hudson. Tampa Bay is a huge spread out area and migratory birds or not, it's not easy to build a new network. I think we can expect constant improvements over the coming months. The Chicago network definitely surprised me for the better this past summer, both in coverage and speed.
 
Hmmm.. On both the Clear and Sprint maps it's showing 4G coverage for my street (in 33772 zip), but it's not happening. I updated PRL and Profile, and still not seeing 4G in the house (or outside).

Last time I was at Ray Jay (last Bulls game), there was no 4G there either. I'll try again this Wed night when the Bulls take on Rutgers! :)
 
I understand the sentiment that it takes time to build a network, but after being with Sprint since March, first with an Overdrive, then moving from T-Mobile in June to the Evo, I've been constantly told that 4G is coming and definitely to my area. I'm 4 miles north of USF in New Tampa, so you'd think it would come, (and according to Sprint in June, it was, in August), but right now, seeing my $10 surcharge going to build out 4G in such metropolises as Lithia and Hudson while stuck on 3G which I can't use while on a call (I try to use the hotspot to telecommute, and have to use skype for calls so the data doesn't drop), the $175 early contract termination is looking like a good deal. I guess looking at this thread and Sensorly almost daily for 4 months while seeing everywhere around me get 4G has left me annoyed and ready to move back to tmob and their HSDPA. I'd even take ATT and 3G right now come to think of it...
 
I think the official announcement of the launch in TPA is simply politics. I say this because it is obvious they are still working on the system. Including this morning, and pretty much all week, the system anywhere from Riverview all the way to Tampa Intl Airport has been down. They bring it up sometime later in the morning, but at 3:30AM I can't get one single 4G connection on my drive in. I see some sites down sporadically as well during the day. So, I think its simply a formality and look for more changes as well, especially near the airport where they are slated to put in four locations along Dale Mabry and Westshore. Now, the 4G WiMax network just barely touches the top of my community where I live in Riverview and I have no 4G at home, but I'm not overly concerned about that yet. I hope one day they build a little further to cover our community of 2700 homes. I use WiFi at home so it doesn't matter and since 4G is strictly data and I have a tower close by me with a strong 3G signal for my calls, I'll be ok with that. I spend my working time in 4G areas. We'll continute to watch and see how the network progresses.
 
Here is an interesting news story from Clearwire cuts workforce, delays retail launches amid funding uncertainty - FierceWireless

Clearwire cuts workforce, delays retail launches amid funding uncertainty
By Phil Goldstein
Created Nov 4 2010 - 4:29pm
Clearwire (NASDAQ:CLWR [1]) posted record subscriber and revenue growth in the third quarter, but the mobile WiMAX operator said it will take several measures to conserve cash as it seeks to secure new funding. The company said its network now covers 100 million POPs and is on track to cover 120 million POPs by the end of the year. Clearwire also said it now expects to end the year with 4 million total subscribers, double what it had predicted at the beginning of the year.

However, the company said it is still trying to come up with new funding and is exploring a variety of options. Clearwire CEO Bill Morrow said during the company's earnings conference call that Clearwire is considering new equity funding from existing shareholders as well as non-strategic investors; debt-based financing; or selling spectrum that the company does not need.

While it searches for new funding, Clearwire is taking a number of measures, which it described as temporary, to conserve cash. The company will:

•substantially reduce sales and marketing,
•delay plans to launch Clear-branded smartphones from Samsung and HTC,
•suspend Clear-branded operations in select markets including Denver and Miami,
•cut the number of contractors it employs as well as 15 percent of its workforce,
•and suspend development activities for cell sites that are not part of its current buildout plan.
Morrow characterized all of these measures as temporary, and said the company is taking the necessary measures to ensure that once it does secure adequate funding it can quickly ramp its operations back up.

Here is a breakdown of Clearwire's key quarterly metrics:

Financials: Clearwire notched total revenue of $147 million, a 114 percent increase over the $68.8 million it had in the third quarter of 2009. The company said its revenue is still primarily generated through its retail business, but said it expects wholesale revenue will ramp up significantly in future quarters. However, the company reported a wider net loss of $139.4 million, wider than the $82.4 million it had in the year-ago period.


Subscribers: Clearwire ended the third quarter with 2.84 million total subscribers, including 1.01 million retail subscribers and 1.83 million wholesale subscribers. The company said this is the first time the number of subscribers in its wholesale subscriber base surpassed that of its retail business. During the third quarter, Clearwire added 1.23 million total net new subscribers, including 150,000 retail additions and 1.1 million wholesale additions. The company said the sharp uptick is likely due to the fact that more wholesale subscribers are using 3G/4G devices in areas where the Clearwire has not yet launched WiMAX service (a likely allusion to Sprint's Nextel's (NYSE:S [2]) 3G/4G handsets, the HTC Evo and Samsung Epic). At the end of the quarter, around 45 percent of Clearwire's wholesale subscribers lived outside of the company's launched markets.


ARPU: The company said retail average revenue per user came in at $42.74, up from $39.71 in the year-ago quarter. The company also started breaking out consolidated ARPU, consisting of wholesale and retail: wholesale ARPU was $4.46 and consolidated ARPU was $21.19.


Churn: Retail churn was 3.5 percent in the quarter, up from 3.1 percent in the year-ago period. Wholesale churn was 1.3 percent and consolidated churn was 2.3 percent.

CPGA: Clearwire said consolidated cost per gross addition dropped to $92, down from $112 in the second quarter and $293 in the first quarter.
 
Sprint has recently announced their dedication to the rollout of the 4G network. They will play an intregal part in this story I am sure.
 
tampaflusa, I wonder whose network they are for? I know other providers are rolling out new networks but that wasn't an area Clear had planned on nor do they have any pending FCC apps on file.
 
So the question I have now is, are they done expanding the Tampa network now that the announcement has been made and the coverage map is up? Too bad, I live just outside of their coverage zone and it doesn't show as a future coverage area.
 
Anyone having 3G issues? Move have been slow the last couple of days.

Actually I have been. Max of 200k down and up non existent, for a few days, all over town, couldn't stream radio for a damn and the web kept timing out. Did all sorts - reset, update, pull battery etc. But I just ran speedtest again - 2467 down 728 up. My 3g now seems faster than 4g.. just ran it again 2364 down... FYI, I'm up in the Tampa Palms / Pebble Creek area north of 75, off the obstacle course that is Bruce B Downs.

Ps Now its cold, does that mean these phantom bird nests in the towers will have been vacated, so we can now get some more 4g?
 
4G in Tampa

Until sometime in the future when they decide to expand further in Tampa, what we have now is what it will be for a while. They have identified expansion areas in Orlando for the future, and may do so for Tampa, but it will be a while. From what I have been told, as you have read in the news as well, Clearwire is scaling back in some areas. A rep I spoke with said that we may see more expansion in Tampa but not in the near future so what we have right now is what we have for a while.
 
I was probably speaking too soon when I said 3G speeds were okay. Good speeds lasted about 2 days. Now getting 200k max download on various Sprint phones (my phone and 4 other phones belonging to my friends) in various locations around Tampa. Called Sprint - apparently everythings okay.

So after spending $200 on an Evo, being lied to by Sprint reps in June with the promise of 4G where I live, it appears that not only is there no 4G, but the Sprint 3G speeds make even ATT look good.

If what is being said here is true, and Clear want to cut back on expanding their network and lay off engineers, that's their choice, but when T-mobile have hspa+ and Verizon are pushing LTE, paying the early termination fee to get away from Sprint feels like a good deal. I think I'll give them another month and move if nothing changes.

Is it just me who feels hosed by Sprint over the promise of good 4G coverage in Tampa? Is anyone getting good 3G speeds in Tampa?
 

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