All about Incredible batteries (Replacements, Charging..ect)

I gotta say, I'm starting to see an improvement (knocks on wood), and I hope it gets better. Today with moderate use I got down to about 20 percent by 9pm (unplugged at 7am) with pretty moderate use (bunch of phone calls, e-mailing, browsing - pretty much a normal usage day). That is with the Always On feature CHECKED (I want my push gmail!) and NO task killer. I think Friend stream widget was running, but no other widgets - I disabled the Sense weather app and went with Beautiful home instead (does the exact same thing without pinging your location every God knows how often).

It's still not to the point where I'm comfortable, but at least it's an improvement, and hopefully will continue to improve. I'm just hoping to wait out the price drop in extended batteries, then I'll inevitably have to pick one up. Also hoping HTC rolls some sort of firmware update to cure whatever's draining the battery, because I'm still convinced something ain't right!
 
wow u guys and gals must not use your Incs. fully charged i lasted only 5.45 hours. lotas web email twitter web every thing my inc is made to b used for. my question is how long does it take to fully charged... at two hours i was only at 45% with those numbers im guessing 4 hours to fully charge.
 
My battery tips

I can attest to the battery getting better a few days in. Received mine on release date and now am getting through the day, including weekends with lots of GPS use and such without worrying about running out of juice.

I did have a few tricks that I really thought helped though, and haven't seen mentioned in here:

1) Disabled Haptic feedback
Settings > Sounds & display > Haptic feedback

2) Disabled vibrate while typing Settings
Settings > Language & keyboard > Touch input > Text input > Vibrate when typing (Little hard to fine huh?)

I am unsure how much battery vibrate uses on phones in modern days, but vibrate function has always been known to drain batteries more than other functions in the past. Everytime you hit a letter it vibrates? Each one is hitting the battery.... thousands of characters a day, it must have an effect on the macro level.

3) Disabled animations
Settings > Sounds & display > Animation > No animation

In a general computer sense (this inc is a tiny one) more pizzaz and effect = more processing power, so disabling should have some effect. Also, you are saving milliseconds of your time all day long! :D

4) Disabled data roaming
Settings > Wireless & networks > Mobile networks > Data Roaming

This will probably only help if use the phone/leave the phone in a low signal area often. For me, my home and work dip in & out of 3G. Presumably, at that time it looks for both VZW and foreign networks to pick up, any time its looking hard for a signal, its using more battery.

I also tried the disable "Enable always on mobile connection" but I found in my uses of the phone that this had a negative effect on my receiving of email & updates. Can't seem to get a straight answer on the forums on this one. The results look like 50/50 to me.
 
Battery Longevity

So it seems the break in theory for batteries is not a myth. My wife and I both noticed that our phonese seemed to be holding more of a charge and lasting longer yesterday. I expect by the end of next week it will be fully broken in and I will easily get through the day of heavy use.
 
That is with the Always On feature CHECKED (I want my push gmail!)

If you're referring to the "Always on mobile data" feature, I have it unchecked and my GMAIL pushes fine... This feature only affects you if you're not in Verizon's area of coverage. A post a while back said it's for use when you go into an area where Verizon leases like Alltel's towers and such. So, if you're in a good Verizon coverage area, uncheck it and save some battery.

The feature you may be thinking of is in the "Accounts and Sync" area that allows you to check or uncheck enable background data. That would disable a GMAIL push...
 
So it seems the break in theory for batteries is not a myth. My wife and I both noticed that our phonese seemed to be holding more of a charge and lasting longer yesterday. I expect by the end of next week it will be fully broken in and I will easily get through the day of heavy use.

After a week of charge cycles, I believe I'm now at my battery's full capability. I had seen a SUBSTANTIAL increase every day with identical usage, starting at 5 hours until down to 10% after it's first full charge to now 12 hours on a full charge with a good mix of data, voice, navigation, and listening to music on the phone.

One thing I will say I like is the Advanced Task Killer app is great... I think that has also helped.
 
i still have the stock battery and havent made the decision to upgrade yet, after yesterday, im kinda glad i havent, although the extra time would be nice on occasion.

as several others have posted, each day the battery life has been much better, the past few days, i have used the battery into the red and turned it off to charge overnight.

yesterday i unplugged the phone at 7am, moderate-heavy used throughout the day (several phone calls -hour total, gtalk throughout the day, downloaded 5 new apps, 45+ emails, both wi-fi and gps off) i was able to last until 930 last night when i went to bed it was at 4.5% so i turned it off and plugged it in the charge.

thats 14.5 hours!!!! im happy with that...:)
 
Hi Everyone, got some more stats from my tests with the stock battery (1300mAh) this time. It was my first full day with the stock battery so it may need some time to get better at holding a charge. :cool:

UpTime: 10:29:37
AwakeTime: 6:57:01
Battery %: 4%
Wifi: Off
GPS: On (used for about 10 minutes)
Bluetooth: Off
Always on Mobile data: On
Sync: On

UnPlugged time: 10:29:37 This is consistent with other figures I've seen.

Yesterday I gave it a 6 hour charging before pulling it off the charger at 12:15pm. I used it sparingly throughout the work day and it was down to 85% by the time I left work @ 4:30pm.

Typical usage from 12:15pm - 10:45pm: Emails (15), Texts (10), Phone calls (1 hour), Youtube (30mins), Video (30Mins), Newsrob, Touiteur, Engadget, NPR News browsing, A little bit of maps, played some Jewels, composed an email or two, and it died while talking to my fianc?e at 10:55pm. Good thing I looked at those stats before talking to her -- that's the reason I don't have the system %'s cause I couldn't look at them before the device died.

Needless to say -- I'm a little unimpressed. I unplugged my phone at 2:30am this morning, got the update at 6:30am, composed some texts, listened to Mixzing and read on Newsrob on the drive to work (25 mins) and it's just after 8:30am and I'm down to 66%

I'll let you guys know how long I can make it through the day before getting to the dreaded 5% life left.

Any questions guys? Just let me know.

Thanks,
-Elo
 
I totally agree, but is that just the stock cover or an extended one to fit the 2150? Also, then Im stuck waiting for a case to go over the new extended back. ( which may be forever) or be limited to one or two different cases.

Okay Mike, here's my take.

The 2150 mAh battery, is going to rock. Even though it's going to be a little be thicker, heavier, and require a new battery back door cover, I see that as being beneficial for three reasons:

  1. It will be easier to hold for bigger hands
  2. It will sit better on a desk/surface so that the camera won't get scratched to hell
  3. You won't have to worry about charging it all the time and carrying around that cable to do so.

There are some downsides of course:

  1. The sleekness will be compromised
  2. The regularly holsters, cases, skins, won't fit.

I am not even going to talk about the 3500mAh battery as that thing is most likely going to be hideous. No one knows for sure yet though...

Might jump the gun and get the TouchPro2 OEM 2150mAh battery if the back cover door Verizon sells will fit it.

All in all May should be an interesting month for our Incredible devices! :D

Sorry, couldn't help myself on that one...
-Elo
 
I've been plugging in my charger when I get to work in the morning and leaving it on the charger all day (7am-5pm) I don't play with it much at work and obviously don't run out of charge before going to sleep. I'm hoping that leaving it on the charger all day has no adverse effect, but it solves my battery running down at night...
 
I placed a call to VZW CS this morning about the battery and signal strength issues. I'll pass along what I was told about the battery issue. I was transferred to someone in the "data use" department after speaking to the nice level 1 rep.

1. This is a known issue. VZW official stance is that the battery specs state 146 hours standby time (no background apps running, etc) and 312 minutes of talk/data use. Basically, if you don't have 3rd party apps, let the phone sit in your pocket, and keep the data connection as always on (as in, this is how the phone is advertised to work), you will only get 312 minutes. That is the bottom line. VZW blames the manufacturer.

2. Even though this is a known issue, there will not be new fix coming, meaning hardware. There may be software tweaks that come out, but if you plan to only use the stock OEM battery, you're SOL is you want to use this phone even moderately.

3. VZW solution to the known issue is to push extended batteries. The rep told me that this may be a marketing ploy from HTC in order to sell more accessories, and I responded that VZW would also be making money from accessories. He agreed.

All in all, the conversation with the "data" rep started out bad and ended up neutral (I mean, who wants to be told that they're SOL, it's the manufacturers fault, & even though VZW sells and services the device, you're on your own with battery issues?). Couple caveats. I know this was just one rep and I do take it with a grain of salt. But pretty much everything he said makes sense from a VZW standpoint (except that HTC would only be making money off selling accessories). Also, the battery is def a known issue.
 
If anyone's interested, I noticed that fommy.com is now taking pre-orders for the battery only charger, and also has a 1500mAh "extended battery" available.
 
I placed a call to VZW CS this morning about the battery and signal strength issues. I'll pass along what I was told about the battery issue. I was transferred to someone in the "data use" department after speaking to the nice level 1 rep.

1. This is a known issue. VZW official stance is that the battery specs state 146 hours standby time (no background apps running, etc) and 312 minutes of talk/data use. Basically, if you don't have 3rd party apps, let the phone sit in your pocket, and keep the data connection as always on (as in, this is how the phone is advertised to work), you will only get 312 minutes. That is the bottom line. VZW blames the manufacturer.

2. Even though this is a known issue, there will not be new fix coming, meaning hardware. There may be software tweaks that come out, but if you plan to only use the stock OEM battery, you're SOL is you want to use this phone even moderately.

3. VZW solution to the known issue is to push extended batteries. The rep told me that this may be a marketing ploy from HTC in order to sell more accessories, and I responded that VZW would also be making money from accessories. He agreed.

All in all, the conversation with the "data" rep started out bad and ended up neutral (I mean, who wants to be told that they're SOL, it's the manufacturers fault, & even though VZW sells and services the device, you're on your own with battery issues?). Couple caveats. I know this was just one rep and I do take it with a grain of salt. But pretty much everything he said makes sense from a VZW standpoint (except that HTC would only be making money off selling accessories). Also, the battery is def a known issue.


Thanks for the info! What about the signal strength issue?
 
Thanks for the info! What about the signal strength issue?

Was planning on adding this to another thread, but I don't see a good place yet.

Here's what went down:

I told the data rep that I had the signal bar fluctuation issue as well as actual loss of reception on live calls. He said that there is no known issue for actual loss of reception, but there is one for the strange fluctuation of the bars on the top of the screen. VZW has handled multiple complaints, but it isn't affecting actual reception as far as they know.

The rep asked me to dial ***** SEND to mark the areas where I was having a reception issue or dropped call. They are going to monitor this over the next few days and get back to me. If they determine it is not a network issue and is a hardware issue, they will send me out a new phone.

I did have him run through the signal setting with me. At the time of my call, it read -85dBm (currently moving between -77dBM and -80dBm as I type this). According to the rep, -80dBm is perfect signal strength. Anything close to that is good. He said that the further you get away from -80 in either direction, that means bad signal. Now that flies in the face of what I've read on this board (for instance -60 is better than -80), but I don't know. All I can tell is that I've been losing reception in areas that were perfect using my Storm, and I always had full bars.

I really don't want a new unit. I'm hoping the bar fluctuation issue is software related.
 
Oops, I was wrong... changed. That Verizon guy is an ass, -80 ain't that great.

Does that ***** thing work for everyone, or were they just tracking your phone?

Also one note on my personal battery life... Yesterday wasn't awful (20% by 10pm), today was atrocious again! 30% by 3pm. The only thing I changed was last night I turned the Location setting back on (for network location). I've also been using the phone substantially LESS today and I had it turned completely OFF for about 2 straight hours... so go figure that. My only conclusion right now is that location is a huge battery drain, so I've turned it back off...
 
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Oops, I was wrong... changed. That Verizon guy is an ass, -80 ain't that great.

Does that ***** thing work for everyone, or were they just tracking your phone?

Also one note on my personal battery life... Yesterday wasn't awful (20% by 10pm), today was atrocious again! 30% by 3pm. The only thing I changed was last night I turned the Location setting back on (for network location). I've also been using the phone substantially LESS today and I had it turned completely OFF for about 2 straight hours... so go figure that. My only conclusion right now is that location is a huge battery drain, so I've turned it back off...

He definitely was an ass. The level 1 rep was really nice and understood my problem. As soon as she transferred me to the data rep, he was stand-offish and very unsympathetic. After speaking to him for awhile, I realized it is more of an issue with authorized call scripting from VZW.

The ***** SEND thing is just to mark when you are having issues. If you want to do it, just call them up after a day or two and tell them you marked your calls. This is the standard method VZW uses to track issue location and identify if the network is the problem or rule it out.
 
wow i wish i can get even through a half a day. i usually unplug about 6:30am and i have noticed a slight increase in time.i am a heavy texter and placed a few calls today lasting maybe 20 min a piece. gps off, wifi off and by 2pm in the red. before it use to be 11am before dead. 4.5hrs then compared to 7.5hrs.
i still have the stock battery and havent made the decision to upgrade yet, after yesterday, im kinda glad i havent, although the extra time would be nice on occasion.

as several others have posted, each day the battery life has been much better, the past few days, i have used the battery into the red and turned it off to charge overnight.

yesterday i unplugged the phone at 7am, moderate-heavy used throughout the day (several phone calls -hour total, gtalk throughout the day, downloaded 5 new apps, 45+ emails, both wi-fi and gps off) i was able to last until 930 last night when i went to bed it was at 4.5% so i turned it off and plugged it in the charge.

thats 14.5 hours!!!! im happy with that...:)
 

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