An Apple user's impressions of the Nexus 7 & Jelly Bean

[lostmarine]

After a few days of use I have another major issue... there are so many apps that I use that simply "aren't compatible with this device". That is freaking absurd. Whatever other problems I have, this is looking like a deal breaker.

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At least give the app devs a couple weeks. This thing is selling faster then Google can handle. Pretty sure the app devs see that and want to jump on this cash cow.

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[steve dave]

At least give the app devs a couple weeks. This thing is selling faster then Google can handle. Pretty sure the app devs see that and want to jump on this cash cow.

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I guess my point is that the OS should be designed such that apps written for older software or for phones should run without needing recoded. A large portion of the apps I try either just aren't available or the ones that do install are missing important features. Regardless of why that is the case, it is a huge problem.

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[mkiker2089]

They could write the OS to keep it backwards compatible. You'd lose a lot of innovation that way. Windows stuck heavily with the old DOS system for many years because of that, but eventually gave up on it.

 

[Bethany Smith]

Bethany, I have an Imac and use a app called AirDroid to transfer files from my Mac to Android devices. You can also use Isync to transfer your Itunes library to the device, although it may be better to use Google music and stream it since there is so little storage (this is what they intended I believe).

THANK YOU so very much qnet. These were exactly what I was looking for and more.

 

[steve dave]

They could write the OS to keep it backwards compatible. You'd lose a lot of innovation that way. Windows stuck heavily with the old DOS system for many years because of that, but eventually gave up on it.

I agree there should be some cut-off but when apps break over a 0.1 software revision, that is ridiculous.

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[giograves]

Holy crap just played with an iPad 3. That screen freaking sets the bar.

#fandroidwithappleenvy

Why can't I get an Android device in that chassis?

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[crackberrytraitor]

Holy crap just played with an iPad 3. That screen freaking sets the bar.

#fandroidwithappleenvy

Why can't I get an Android device in that chassis?

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Maybe if there was a 7 inch version with the same quality of screen (the iPad mini looks like it won't even be 720p) I'd be interested. Okay, maybe not, but at least I'd hate it less.

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[kgi4]

WoW - This impressions article is elegantly written- and I agree and Many points.

But here is the big surprise for all you freedom loving Android users out there :
The MOMENT you "root" the Google Nexus7 you VOID all your Warranties. !

Boo.

So, I feel like I've been hit with a double whammy-
Alot of what I consider to be Basic Functionality is missing from the Google version Nexus7 platform- way way More Restrictive than Apple iOS - very few traditional Android Apps working properly on Jelly Bean 4.1.1, and the best stuff that might work or be tweakable, requires the equivalent of "jailbreaking" this Google Nexus7 to 'root' it - which voids the warranty for the hardware as well.

For a Tablet, I feel there is minimum functionality needed, that may be inappropriate for a cell phone. One: A simple Notepad app. Two: The web browser needs to be able to store its own web pages (user selected) for Offline Viewing. Three: a simple file manager of any sort-even if it is only for a limited user storage area.

So why buy a Nexus7? The form factor is Wonderful !, my screen is clear and detailed, the human interaction with the touch screen is smooth as ... Butter- yes they succeeded. Great size, weight, visibility ...

While one waits for the platform to catch up - too bad the un-initiated, like myself, must sift through the gazillion free and not free apps, for ones that work, that don't raid your privacy or sell your info for the advertising blitz.

Yes, I'm keeping my Nexus7 for now.

 

[dmmarck]

WoW - This impressions article is elegantly written- and I agree and Many points.

But here is the big surprise for all you freedom loving Android users out there :
The MOMENT you "root" the Google Nexus7 you VOID all your Warranties. !

Boo.

So, I feel like I've been hit with a double whammy-
Alot of what I consider to be Basic Functionality is missing from the Google version Nexus7 platform- way way More Restrictive than Apple iOS - very few traditional Android Apps working properly on Jelly Bean 4.1.1, and the best stuff that might work or be tweakable, requires the equivalent of "jailbreaking" this Google Nexus7 to 'root' it - which voids the warranty for the hardware as well.

For a Tablet, I feel there is minimum functionality needed, that may be inappropriate for a cell phone. One: A simple Notepad app. Two: The web browser needs to be able to store its own web pages (user selected) for Offline Viewing. Three: a simple file manager of any sort-even if it is only for a limited user storage area.

So why buy a Nexus7? The form factor is Wonderful !, my screen is clear and detailed, the human interaction with the touch screen is smooth as ... Butter- yes they succeeded. Great size, weight, visibility ...

While one waits for the platform to catch up - too bad the un-initiated, like myself, must sift through the gazillion free and not free apps, for ones that work, that don't raid your privacy or sell your info for the advertising blitz.

Yes, I'm keeping my Nexus7 for now.

Unless the policy is different than it is with the Galaxy Nexus--and it very well may be--it's unlocking the device that actually voids your warranty. Furthermore, if the language is the same type of language used as displayed on the bootloader, then more correctly it makes the warranty voidable. It has to actually be voided by an express action of the rights holder--Google/Asus. Thus, when you "unlock" or "root," you don't actually have a voided warranty, but rather a warranty that may now be legally voided by the other contracting party (Google/Asus).

As such, and as with any Nexus device, it can be taken back to stock: unrooted, which is easy--it's simply a binary and an app, after all--and relocked (fastboot oem lock does it in about .30 seconds).

Further, Nexus devices are development tools and this type of behavior, while still raising legal questions, is not necessarily "discouraged" by the powers that be.

Now if the language is different than the Galaxy Nexus then the above is null and actually void .

 

[Phenom]

I'm not sure why so many people complain when brand new devices are released w/o full support from the prior ecosystem. It's the price you pay for being an early adopter with just about anything. If you don't want to deal with the hassle of waiting for apps to be updated, there's a simple solution: wait approx one month before buying it. That will give devs the chance to update their apps.

So many people want to be on the bleeding edge of technology and have devices the second they hit the market, but almost any device that can be updated will improve in a fairly short time. This is true with Android, Apple, Microsoft and pretty much every electronics manufacturer out there.

 

[crackberrytraitor]

WoW - This impressions article is elegantly written- and I agree and Many points.

But here is the big surprise for all you freedom loving Android users out there :
The MOMENT you "root" the Google Nexus7 you VOID all your Warranties. !

Boo.

So, I feel like I've been hit with a double whammy-
Alot of what I consider to be Basic Functionality is missing from the Google version Nexus7 platform- way way More Restrictive than Apple iOS - very few traditional Android Apps working properly on Jelly Bean 4.1.1, and the best stuff that might work or be tweakable, requires the equivalent of "jailbreaking" this Google Nexus7 to 'root' it - which voids the warranty for the hardware as well.

For a Tablet, I feel there is minimum functionality needed, that may be inappropriate for a cell phone. One: A simple Notepad app. Two: The web browser needs to be able to store its own web pages (user selected) for Offline Viewing. Three: a simple file manager of any sort-even if it is only for a limited user storage area.

So why buy a Nexus7? The form factor is Wonderful !, my screen is clear and detailed, the human interaction with the touch screen is smooth as ... Butter- yes they succeeded. Great size, weight, visibility ...

While one waits for the platform to catch up - too bad the un-initiated, like myself, must sift through the gazillion free and not free apps, for ones that work, that don't raid your privacy or sell your info for the advertising blitz.

Yes, I'm keeping my Nexus7 for now.

Pretty sure you should go back to using an Apple product. Us nerdy people would just download evernote and astro manager without a thought. Apple guys (or just tech noobs) go "omg what do I do? I'm used to having Apple telling me what to do and how to do it with their pre-installed generic apps and interface." Android is a blank slate that can and will do anything other other platforms do, and much more. But only if you learn how the do it.

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[Necrocis]

WoW - This impressions article is elegantly written- and I agree and Many points.

But here is the big surprise for all you freedom loving Android users out there :
The MOMENT you "root" the Google Nexus7 you VOID all your Warranties. !

Boo.

So, I feel like I've been hit with a double whammy-
Alot of what I consider to be Basic Functionality is missing from the Google version Nexus7 platform- way way More Restrictive than Apple iOS - very few traditional Android Apps working properly on Jelly Bean 4.1.1, and the best stuff that might work or be tweakable, requires the equivalent of "jailbreaking" this Google Nexus7 to 'root' it - which voids the warranty for the hardware as well.

For a Tablet, I feel there is minimum functionality needed, that may be inappropriate for a cell phone. One: A simple Notepad app. Two: The web browser needs to be able to store its own web pages (user selected) for Offline Viewing. Three: a simple file manager of any sort-even if it is only for a limited user storage area.

So why buy a Nexus7? The form factor is Wonderful !, my screen is clear and detailed, the human interaction with the touch screen is smooth as ... Butter- yes they succeeded. Great size, weight, visibility ...

While one waits for the platform to catch up - too bad the un-initiated, like myself, must sift through the gazillion free and not free apps, for ones that work, that don't raid your privacy or sell your info for the advertising blitz.

Yes, I'm keeping my Nexus7 for now.

Here my favorite File Manager: Astro File Manager https://forums.androidcentral.com/e...ps/details?id=com.metago.astro&token=Rwxvblia

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[steve dave]

I'm not sure why so many people complain when brand new devices are released w/o full support from the prior ecosystem. It's the price you pay for being an early adopter with just about anything. If you don't want to deal with the hassle of waiting for apps to be updated, there's a simple solution: wait approx one month before buying it. That will give devs the chance to update their apps.

So many people want to be on the bleeding edge of technology and have devices the second they hit the market, but almost any device that can be updated will improve in a fairly short time. This is true with Android, Apple, Microsoft and pretty much every electronics manufacturer out there.

This is a BS excuse common among android apologists. Please name any other software that breaks apps via a 0.1 revision. Hell an app written for ios 2.0 still operates on ios 5. This is clearly a big problem for a lot of people with regard to android and making excuses for it is silly.

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[Phenom]

This is a BS excuse common among android apologists. Please name any other software that breaks apps via a 0.1 revision. Hell an app written for ios 2.0 still operates on ios 5. This is clearly a big problem for a lot of people with regard to android and making excuses for it is silly.

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That's just the numbering convention they chose. Most people expected Jelly Bean to be 5.0. I'm an Android fan, but not an apologist. When the latest iPhone came out, weren't there issues with the radio antenna that required a fix? Guess what? People who bought it on Day 1 were susceptible to that issue. People who bought it a month later were not b/c Apple figured out a fix.

I personally bought an Xbox 360 on Day 1 and had to send it back FIVE TIMES. People who waited a month or two did not have the same issues. Also, I later sold my original console to upgrade to the black WiFi version and guess what? Zero problems. Microsoft addressed the manufacturing issues along the way.

Browse the forums of any brand new device and you'll see the same story over and over. Before the release, there's universal excitement and near-pandemonium. Once it's released, you get tons of complaints about bugs, defects or compatibility issues, etc. Then a few weeks later, many of the complaints have subsided and you get more general discussion about the device b/c the early-adopter issues have been addressed.

I'm not saying you shouldn't buy something on Day 1, I'm just saying if you do, be prepared for the minor bumps and bruises that almost every device goes through. If you're not, just be patient and wait for the kinks to be ironed out.

 

[steve dave]

That's just the numbering convention they chose. Most people expected Jelly Bean to be 5.0. I'm an Android fan, but not an apologist. When the latest iPhone came out, weren't there issues with the radio antenna that required a fix? Guess what? People who bought it on Day 1 were susceptible to that issue. People who bought it a month later were not b/c Apple figured out a fix.

I personally bought an Xbox 360 on Day 1 and had to send it back FIVE TIMES. People who waited a month or two did not have the same issues. Also, I later sold my original console to upgrade to the black WiFi version and guess what? Zero problems. Microsoft addressed the manufacturing issues along the way.

Browse the forums of any brand new device and you'll see the same story over and over. Before the release, there's universal excitement and near-pandemonium. Once it's released, you get tons of complaints about bugs, defects or compatibility issues, etc. Then a few weeks later, many of the complaints have subsided and you get more general discussion about the device b/c the early-adopter issues have been addressed.

I'm not saying you shouldn't buy something on Day 1, I'm just saying if you do, be prepared for the minor bumps and bruises that almost every device goes through. If you're not, just be patient and wait for the kinks to be ironed out.

This isn't an issue with a first generation product. This has nothing to do with the hardware. This is an issue with a supposedly mature operating system. If you are suggesting that every time there is an android update that my apps are just going to stop working for an undetermined amount of time then that is an absurd proposition.

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[Phenom]

To my knowledge, the N7 represents new hardware and new software. There was not a previous version of the N7, this is the first. Some of the complaints throughout the forums are indeed hardware issues (loose screen). Other complaints are software issues. Regardless, if you wait one month to buy it, most of those issues will be resolved.

I don't think most users care whether a problem is due to hardware or software issue. They just want a device that works great. A short wait will significantly improve your chances on almost any electronic device. That's all I'm saying...

 

[Edwill86]

This is a BS excuse common among android apologists. Please name any other software that breaks apps via a 0.1 revision. Hell an app written for ios 2.0 still operates on ios 5. This is clearly a big problem for a lot of people with regard to android and making excuses for it is silly.

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maybe so but for 2 whole versions of IOS (3-4) apple messed up Bluetooth and cabled play back for 3-4th gen ipod touches and iphone 3 and 3s' making them useless for audio play back on connected devices for close to a year.

they are not without fault.

and honestly I have only found 4 out of the 75+ apps I have installed on other devices not work on jelly bean. IMO I find that to be more then acceptable.

 

[steel056]

Hi, love the article. I have a 4th gen iPod touch and I love it for what it is. Because of that I never felt the need for and IPhone and thought the ipad was too big for a hand hold device. And my major issue with apple products is the extremely overpriced product they sell. So that's when I tried my first android phone and I loved the customablity of the os. It is annoying that it doesn't include normal functions like battery % and that you have to find widgets you like to do the job. But it also a plus, widgets and customizing your device with 3rd party apps with a click of a button is great, no jailbreak needed. Now I had ordered the nexus 7 at GameStop so I had picked mine up last Friday and Sunday after intense playing and investigating the new jelly bean os I found an amazing feature under security that no one has mentioned yet. It is face unlock, it a face recognition unlock with a pin or pattern backup. I'm not sure if this is new but I feel it is amazing. You all should check it out . And to improve your nexus experience I'm listing a few good apps and widgets that will do so. First battery status widget, player pro (music player), aldiko book reader, ezpdf reader, pulse, spring pad, vplayer(video player like vlc), jjcomics viewer, and astro ( like windows explorer). I hope this help and enjoy I'm loving my new nexus 7 I'm using to post this.

 

[rbpeake]

The only previous Android device I have used is the Nook Color. My Nexus 7 tablet is so superior, it's a whole new experience! And the sceen is easier to read, and Jellybean imho is just as good as if not even easier to navigate than iOS 5 on my iPhone 4S. (I have never used an iPad.)

 

[Ravynmagi]

Yes! It beats it/ ties it in almost every benchmark test!

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The iPad 3 GPU is an insane beast.

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