And Then There Were 3? Sprint Said To Be Prepping T-Mobile Bid..

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True. But he is also stepping down and that's why he was given that. T-Mobile CEO will run the new Sprint.

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Dan Hesse needs to be fired. He's primarily the reason why Sprint is so screwed up. Him and the current Sprint administration need to go if they want to turn Sprint around.

I was with Sprint for almost a decade and only when Dan Hesse became CEO did the network start to collapse either with poor administrative projects or poor pricing. The only value I ever saw with Sprint was with their family 1500 plan and it was a very competitive plan. Yet Sprint saw ways to screw that up with their 10 dollar "4G" tax. They turned a competitive plan to one that cost just as much as Verizon/ATT without the network behind it. On top of that, year after year they raised the "administrative charge" It went from $0.75 a line to $2.50 a line currently. Sprint needs to get its head in the game.

And with their new framily prices, somehow their prices are currently the same as their previous plan but they don't give you subsidized phones? Yeah okay....

And now they're starting to throttle unlimited users so "unlimited" isn't unlimited.

I'm sorry, but Sprint is hemorrhaging for a reason and that's because of **** poor management. In 2013, they lost customers, their network improvements were delayed, but the CEO got a huge raise?

If Mr. Son really wants to improve Sprint he can start by firing every person involved in Sprint administration. There's absolutely nothing good I can say about Sprint that has resulted from Dan Hesse becoming CEO and any of his policies.

What further aggravates me is their lack of foresight into the future with their technology. Going from the HTC Evo 4g (wimax) to the galaxy nexus (LTE) and to the Nexus 5 (NV and Spark,) I was forced to buy a new phone with each iteration of network "improvements" due to their uncertainty in the technology they would like to invest in.

And I found most of Sprint's phone to be bathed in the most bloatware. Sprint ID, Sprint Nascar, Sprint TV, sprint radio etc etc. My god, does anyone want this crap?

Sprint's downfall is mainly due to the idiotic Dan Hesse who was blessed with a $50 million salary.

And yes, he is stepping down, but he'll still be part of administration. This guy needs to be FIRED if Sprint wants to go places.

Whereas Tmobile has the possibility of becoming the number 3 carrier this year. Sprint should have token Dan Hesse's "raise" and invested in their network if Mr. Son knew what he was doing.
 

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Dan Hesse needs to be fired. He's primarily the reason why Sprint is so screwed up. Him and the current Sprint administration need to go if they want to turn Sprint around.
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You've got to place yourself into Hesse's shoes. He took over when Sprint was failing miserably after the Nextel merger. That's hard to come back from but Sprint's becoming noticeably better everyday.

I was with Sprint for almost a decade and only when Dan Hesse became CEO did the network start to collapse either with poor administrative projects or poor pricing. The only value I ever saw with Sprint was with their family 1500 plan and it was a very competitive plan. Yet Sprint saw ways to screw that up with their 10 dollar "4G" tax. They turned a competitive plan to one that cost just as much as Verizon/ATT without the network behind it. On top of that, year after year they raised the "administrative charge" It went from $0.75 a line to $2.50 a line currently. Sprint needs to get its head in the game.
Why are you singling our Sprint on the premium data fee? In their old pricing structure, extra lines cost $20 + $10 for any extra lines. That's a lot better than the usual $30 data add-on fee by the other carriers. Sprint has to be profitable and when they subsidize these $600 phones, they need to make up the difference elsewhere. IIRC, At&t also raised their administrative fees and likely Verizon, too.


And with their new framily prices, somehow their prices are currently the same as their previous plan but they don't give you subsidized phones? Yeah okay....
I'll give you this one. I'm grandfathered Into an older plan and I plan on keeping it.

And now they're starting to throttle unlimited users so "unlimited" isn't unlimited.
I've been using 6-10GBs a month and I still haven't noticed any throttling and they mention users above 5GB would fall within their top 5%. Besides, they've always had the right to limit speeds as the contract states. They've just recently come out and said they're doing it for people that are on congested towers which should give the other 95% of users a better experience anyways.

I'm sorry, but Sprint is hemorrhaging for a reason and that's because of **** poor management. In 2013, they lost customers, their network improvements were delayed, but the CEO got a huge raise?
Hesse got most of his raise in Stock and I don't think he's allowed to sell until after his contract is up.

If Mr. Son really wants to improve Sprint he can start by firing every person involved in Sprint administration. There's absolutely nothing good I can say about Sprint that has resulted from Dan Hesse becoming CEO and any of his policies.
They're already replacing a lot of Sprint's upper management. For example, Azzi and Elfman is no longer with Sprint.

What further aggravates me is their lack of foresight into the future with their technology. Going from the HTC Evo 4g (wimax) to the galaxy nexus (LTE) and to the Nexus 5 (NV and Spark,) I was forced to buy a new phone with each iteration of network "improvements" due to their uncertainty in the technology they would like to invest in.
This is common practice with every carrier. T-Mobile just bought a lot of Spectrum from Verizon. By the end of the year, some of it will be available to T-Mobile users. Can their current phones support it? Absolutely not.

And I found most of Sprint's phone to be bathed in the most bloatware. Sprint ID, Sprint Nascar, Sprint TV, sprint radio etc etc. My god, does anyone want this crap?
I agree that the bloat ware is annoying but once again every carrier does this. You can't single them out.

Whereas Tmobile has the possibility of becoming the number 3 carrier this year. Sprint should have token Dan Hesse's "raise" and invested in their network if Mr. Son knew what he was doing.
Ignorance is becoming a lot more common on the Sprint hate train. Sprint's about to roll out B41 in many areas and B26 for extra coverage. They'll be a force to be reckoned with because they're the carrier with the most spectrum assets in the U.S. so their future looks bright.
 

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You've got to place yourself into Hesse's shoes. He took over when Sprint was failing miserably after the Nextel merger. That's hard to come back from but Sprint's becoming noticeably better everyday.


Why are you singling our Sprint on the premium data fee? In their old pricing structure, extra lines cost $20 + $10 for any extra lines. That's a lot better than the usual $30 data add-on fee by the other carriers. Sprint has to be profitable and when they subsidize these $600 phones, they need to make up the difference elsewhere. IIRC, At&t also raised their administrative fees and likely Verizon, too.



I'll give you this one. I'm grandfathered Into an older plan and I plan on keeping it.


I've been using 6-10GBs a month and I still haven't noticed any throttling and they mention users above 5GB would fall within their top 5%. Besides, they've always had the right to limit speeds as the contract states. They've just recently come out and said they're doing it for people that are on congested towers which should give the other 95% of users a better experience anyways.


Hesse got most of his raise in Stock and I don't think he's allowed to sell until after his contract is up.


They're already replacing a lot of Sprint's upper management. For example, Azzi and Elfman is no longer with Sprint.


This is common practice with every carrier. T-Mobile just bought a lot of Spectrum from Verizon. By the end of the year, some of it will be available to T-Mobile users. Can their current phones support it? Absolutely not.


I agree that the bloat ware is annoying but once again every carrier does this. You can't single them out.


Ignorance is becoming a lot more common on the Sprint hate train. Sprint's about to roll out B41 in many areas and B26 for extra coverage. They'll be a force to be reckoned with because they're the carrier with the most spectrum assets in the U.S. so their future looks bright.

Yet you have to admit that a good majority of Sprint's problems were a failure of maintaining their network over the years. We all know Sprint's network has been clogged for years and years yet haven't made anything of it until recently with network vision. And even those plans have been pushed back and back and back. I gave Sprint 4 years to fix their network since the Wimax incident. A lot of my family in Chicago has switched to tmobile (not saying they're the best carrier, but they are the best bang for the buck in a major metro area.) and that's almost 20+ members in my family who made the switch. I'm very curious to see tmobile's Q2 results and Sprint's disappointing Q2. Dan Hesse is facing the same problem he was when he joined sprint in 2007: customer turnover. 7 years later, same CEO, same problem......

I'll give you that, their 1500 unlimited plans are a good deal compared to a lot of current plans. But that's only if you're grandfathered in. That was mainly the reason I stuck with sprint (unlimited data) until I realized that I couldn't even use my data half the time. However, I can't see why most people who switch to Sprint now with their current framily pricing scheme. It doesn't offer as many benefits as tmobile (international data roaming, wifi calling etc etc.) or as family friendly as ATT (10 gb buckets)

The problem is exactly that. Sprint has way too much spectrum that they don't know what to even do with. That's evident that a consumer shouldn't have to buy a new phone every year to take advantage of it.How long do you think it'll be until Sprint's current crop of (800, 1800 and 2500 spark bands )will be "obsolete"?

Yet at the same time where Tmobile/verizon are adding new lte bands, they're also strengthening their previous bands with 15x15 mhz spectrum or 20x20. Sprint just hops on over and adds a bunch of bands all over the spectrum. The most useless being 2.5 ghz. 2.5 ghz is way too high up to ever have a good penetration and that's clearly been obvious to the failure that was Clear. I'd go so far to say that 2.5 ghz is borderline "junk" spectrum when it comes to cell carriers.

Yes, tmobile bought 700 mhz spectrum from verizon, but their 1900 mhz/edge network when refarmed is fully compatible with current lte devices. You would only have to buy a new phone, for that exactly, the new spectrum that tmobile bought.

But what's further aggravating is how Sprint locks down their devices. The only plus I'll give them is allowing the nexus 5. I'm going to say that carrier phones are dead. That's clear by the iphone (updates) and nexus (future support.) No one wants locked down, crippled phones anymore. I can understand why Verizon does it, they can do it. Their network is the best, their prices are high, but guess what? they can afford to lock down their phones. Sprint cant. Sprint's desperate for customers, they're in no position to lock down their phones as much as verizon or even beyond verizon (lte sim card embedded phones, which they're moving away from fortunately.)

Looking at Sprint's current prepaid plans (45 dollars no data and 60 dollars 2.5 gb,) I'm severely disappointed with how expensive that is. ATT's prepaid carrier has essentially the same prices but guess what? they have the network whereas sprint doesn't...

And as far as their phone prices, that's on them. CDMA phones have always been more expensive than their GSM counterparts. Factor in weird oddities like Wimax and upper end bands like 2.5 ghz, of course they're going to be $$$$. You're using bands that are so far off from what ATT/verizon are using.

Also, in 2005 one of the conditions FCC had for the merger of sprint and nextel was that sprint was supposed to launch a wireless serviec on the 2.5 ghz band within 4 years. It's 2014 and I can say Sprint hasn't really "launched" a wireless service on that frequency until now.....

The bottom line is I won't fault Sprint for all these years of not having 100 mbps service. I get that they're upgrading their network and it takes time to run these things out. However, I will fault them for these past few years that I can't even open up a webpage on 3g/4g unless I'm connected to wifi or the consistent dropped calls I was getting and calls that wouldnt go through. Data usage is one thing, but if my texts/calls won't go through, I'm done.
 
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Doubtful at this point... Finally, some real competition for ATT and Verizon 👌💪
Sprint, T-Mobile merger would create telecom giant: http://youtu.be/jT9EPhYC0Pw

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If the FCC says yes then yeah it'd be the T-Mobile / Sprint corporation versus the big.. If not... Well... We will have to see.

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How can they have the most spectrum assets and have horrible coverage!?!? Please explain to me!!

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I had great service with Sprint they are my Favorite Network with Verizon, then T-Mobile. (I don't care to mention AT&T). But I had to switch to Verizon prepaid because they had better coverage in my town and were I travel to, but there prices are to high for me but I stick with them!! But when I was with Sprint through Virgin Mobile I had great service my speeds were great for what I used them for with 2.5gb of high speed unlimited data then it went to 2g if I went over and 300min with unlimited text ( I'm a texter not a talker). That was awesome plan, but the phones cost to much to upgrade to and horrible specs for my price range of $100-$1500. So I switched, I would've went with T-Mobile because of speeds and price, but hey still have 2g only and great coverage where I live and travel, while Sprint has 3g-4g LTE, and maybe Spark pretty soon in my area, but horrible coverage!! So if this merger goes through I'll have great coverage when they switch to GSM phones and network and T-Mobile can switch that Sprint CDMA network and there 2g into 4g LTE and 3g for my while expanding coverage with Sprints towers and Spectrum transferring it into GSM and I'll get a new phone and and awesome network!!!! Crossing my fingers!!! And maybe I'll get to go back to Virgin Mobile or the new company of sprint and T-Mobile will come up with a $35 plan with 500 min, unlimited text and unlimited 3gb of high speed data with 4g LTE before dropping down to 3g for the rest of your month!! Please let this happen!!!!!!

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Everyone talks about how tmobile is so awesome, then why are they 40 billion in debt! SPRINT is actually bailing them out!

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Everyone talks about how tmobile is so awesome, then why are they 40 billion in debt! SPRINT is actually bailing them out!

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Source? Where are they 40 billion in debt? Please don't make claims that aren't true unless you have a reputable source that says this information.

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I really don't know why all the hate and negativity towards the merger.....all it will do is create a WAY better Network the CONSUMERS will benefit from, and be SO COMPETITIVE, that it will cause the prices to the ground on Verizon and Att. What's the wrong in that?????

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I really don't know why all the hate and negativity towards the merger.....all it will do is create a WAY better Network the CONSUMERS will benefit from, and be SO COMPETITIVE, that it will cause the prices to the ground on Verizon and Att. What's the wrong in that?????

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t-mobile users are mad because they were unaware of the company's problems! t-mobile won't make it without the merger! Verizon and at&t users are mad because they have a lot of time invested gloating and bad mouthing SPRINT!

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How can they have the most spectrum assets and have horrible coverage!?!? Please explain to me!!

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Most of Sprint's spectrum is Clearwires. They did not own it wholly until they acquired Clear wire. they're now using that spectrum with 20mhz carriers to later pull up to 168mbps. They're rolling this out on almost all of their sites. Then, B26 is the result of the Nextel merger. They're using that spectrum for coverage range and indoors. B25 was what was available spectrum wise to start the LTE rollout.

B25 = 1900 MHz
B26 = 800 MHz
B41 = 2500/2600 MHz

The higher the frequency, the less coverage/building penetration, but it has less interference. Lower bands are the opposite. This is why the 600 MHz auction coming up is going to be a big deal.

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I really don't know why all the hate and negativity towards the merger.....all it will do is create a WAY better Network the CONSUMERS will benefit from, and be SO COMPETITIVE, that it will cause the prices to the ground on Verizon and Att. What's the wrong in that?????

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When a wireless carrier gets bought out by another carrier, have prices ever gone down?

Out of the dozens of prior mergers and consolidations Att, sprint, verizon, tmobile have made, can you name just ONE instance where the prices dropped?

Sprint gobbled up Clear, nextel, parts of U.S. cell, I didnt notice prices decreasing.

ATT gobbled up Cingular, Leap, a bunch of other carriers. Seems odd, their prices have just been increasing.

In fact, have prices ever gone down.... ever?

I'm against this basically because prior consolidations have basically killed the wireless market. The only reason Verizon and ATT got as big as they are because..... they gobbled up their competition.

Apples to oranges, but look what happened when American airlines bought out U.S. airways. The first checked in bag used to be free, now it's $25 bucks.

But seriously, I think it's funny how all the Sprint customers are for this (as if the prior consolidations have ever made Sprint's network better or offered better prices) and all the tmobile customers (a lot who came from sprint like myself) are against this.
 

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When a wireless carrier gets bought out by another carrier, have prices ever gone down?

Out of the dozens of prior mergers and consolidations Att, sprint, verizon, tmobile have made, can you name just ONE instance where the prices dropped?

Sprint gobbled up Clear, nextel, parts of U.S. cell, I didnt notice prices decreasing.

ATT gobbled up Cingular, Leap, a bunch of other carriers. Seems odd, their prices have just been increasing.

In fact, have prices ever gone down.... ever?

I'm against this basically because prior consolidations have basically killed the wireless market. The only reason Verizon and ATT got as big as they are because..... they gobbled up their competition.

Apples to oranges, but look what happened when American airlines bought out U.S. airways. The first checked in bag used to be free, now it's $25 bucks.

But seriously, I think it's funny how all the Sprint customers are for this (as if the prior consolidations have ever made Sprint's network better or offered better prices) and all the tmobile customers (a lot who came from sprint like myself) are against this.

Has there been real competition in the cell phone market before between at least 4 carriers? No. Why? Because only Att and Verizon offer real good networks, and since they KNOW their networks are GOOD, they charge an arm and a leg. So what would happen if another network (Sprint/T-Mobile merged) was to come along with an even better Network with lower prices? Oh wait, yes, the other big two that thought they were the best, will be shaken up and counter offer better prices. Either to not lose customers or gain new ones. See how the snowball rolls?

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I really don't know why all the hate and negativity towards the merger.....all it will do is create a WAY better Network the CONSUMERS will benefit from, and be SO COMPETITIVE, that it will cause the prices to the ground on Verizon and Att. What's the wrong in that?????

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Honestly no hate. I just wanted to know the source.

If the merger happens it happens.. If not.. Oh well. The merger rumors have shown the T-Mobile team leading the company so I have no worries.

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It's going to be fun watching to see if this does go through.
I'm wondering does T-Mobile and Sprint have a lot of overlap or does that not matter is it just about spectrum? Or is it just having a larger customer base where the benefit comes in?

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It's going to be fun watching to see if this does go through.
I'm wondering does T-Mobile and Sprint have a lot of overlap or does that not matter is it just about spectrum? Or is it just having a larger customer base where the benefit comes in?

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Both.

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ColbyJvonBrown

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This is driving me CRAZY just tell us already!!! I hope they do, because if they do I will switch to the "NEW NETWORK ."

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