Bionic's still coming, is defintely new hardware - XT875

I was recently at Verizon and saw some salespeople in action... I wanted to step in and sell the product myself because I knew it better.

Totally clueless.
 
I'm running Lithium. Battery is starting to hold less of a charge and too many re-draws but I can stand it for another month.

What's so special about the Samsung Galaxy SII?

Man so nice to see you!! You look great lol

I didn't know you still had the Droid. Mines still kicking around and running great thanks to PE :)

I'm waiting on the Samsung Galaxy SII. My wait coninues :'(
 
I was recently at Verizon and saw some salespeople in action... I wanted to step in and sell the product myself because I knew it better.

Totally clueless.

I'd say a fair number of them are useless with smartphones and its a real shame since that is the only real growth vector out their for cell carriers...
 
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I'd be with you on waiting for Samsung Galaxy SII, but I won't buy anything that isn't LTE confirmed...I wouldn't be surprised, to see Samsung release one, but they should get that info out so I can make that difficult decision...

Would be nice for companies to give the customers a heads up instead of keeping us all in the dark and hoping to hit a home run.

I understand. I've gotten used to it over the years. I've watched so many releases come and go and keep walking away empty handed. This August will be a year I've been eligible and this month my second line is up for renewal. So I'm sitting in a really good position with 2 upgrades shortly.

One day I'll have something I really want :)
 
I'm running Lithium. Battery is starting to hold less of a charge and too many re-draws but I can stand it for another month.

What's so special about the Samsung Galaxy SII?
Forgot about Lithium. Never tried it.

I don't want to steer the thread off course but here's a start. Join us in the SG2/Verizon Function area for more discussions on it. It's slow right now though because absolutely nothing is going on.

Anyway, here's part 1 of the video check out part 2 and join us if you'd like. It's super smooth and very fast.

HTC Sensation 4G vs. Samsung Galaxy S II Dogfight Part 1 | PhoneDog
 
I'm running Lithium. Battery is starting to hold less of a charge and too many re-draws but I can stand it for another month.

What's so special about the Samsung Galaxy SII?

My biggest problem is the internal storage. I've already had to delete apps I really, really like because they don't have the option to move to the SD card. I keep just enough storage available now to handle updates. LauncherPro gave my Droid a new lease performance wise though. I even wowed the contractual IT guy we got in earlier this week with it and he owns an iPhone! Seriously. He asked me, "Why Android? And why to you hate the iPhone?" I started with "I don't hate the iPhone, but here's why I like Android." Boy, was he under misconceptions. To begin with, he was shocked by its speed and smoothness.

He was not even aware of what Androids could really do and was wowed, really wowed, at every turn. Hell Bells, he was even simply blown away by the Cube transition effect on LauncherPro...an IT guy, go figure!?! lol I may have actually converted him. He knew nothing about Google integration or Amazon Music storage or a myriad of other things either.
 
The main problem IS the internal storage and I've deleted apps as well. I still don't have enough space though.

Also I never really used the hard keyboard after getting Swiftkey.

I'd also like a bigger screen - I'm getting old and the Droid's is too small.

On the other hand my wife had her upgrade 2 weeks ago and switched to the IPhone - she is the type who doesn't like to do or know anything so it is perfect for her. I had never really had much experience with one and it's not bad considering. It's very stable and fast and has a great battery life.

However, Gizmodo just had the best apps list and there was very little different between Android and the IPhone. And I LOVE widgets.

My biggest problem is the internal storage. I've already had to delete apps I really, really like because they don't have the option to move to the SD card. I keep just enough storage available now to handle updates. LauncherPro gave my Droid a new lease performance wise though. I even wowed the contractual IT guy we got in earlier this week with it and he owns an iPhone! Seriously. He asked me, "Why Android? And why to you hate the iPhone?" I started with "I don't hate the iPhone, but here's why I like Android." Boy, was he under misconceptions. To begin with, he was shocked by its speed and smoothness.

He was not even aware of what Androids could really do and was wowed, really wowed, at every turn. Hell Bells, he was even simply blown away by the Cube transition effect on LauncherPro...an IT guy, go figure!?! lol I may have actually converted him. He knew nothing about Google integration or Amazon Music storage or a myriad of other things either.
 
The main problem IS the internal storage and I've deleted apps as well. I still don't have enough space though.

Also I never really used the hard keyboard after getting Swiftkey.

I'd also like a bigger screen - I'm getting old and the Droid's is too small.

On the other hand my wife had her upgrade 2 weeks ago and switched to the IPhone - she is the type who doesn't like to do or know anything so it is perfect for her. I had never really had much experience with one and it's not bad considering. It's very stable and fast and has a great battery life.

However, Gizmodo just had the best apps list and there was very little different between Android and the IPhone. And I LOVE widgets.

Oh yeah, baby, sing it. Widgets rock and I rarely use the hard keyboard either since I got Swype. That realization lead me to thinking I could make the jump to the Bionic because everything else about it was delicious. Now when I look at an iPhone or iPod Touch (people at work have been coming to me to show them off), they look boring with their rows of icons and I see nothing remotely interesting about them. However, I see their advantage for people who, for one reason or another, need simplicity.
 
I watched part 1, and that was enough.

I won't ever get an HTC because I HATE Sense. It makes the natural android operating system harder to use.

Samsung has a bad reputation for not updating phone software. And while it looked like a nice phone the Bionic should blow it away....

I'm going to stick with Motorola.

Forgot about Lithium. Never tried it.

I don't want to steer the thread off course but here's a start. Join us in the SG2/Verizon Function area for more discussions on it. It's slow right now though because absolutely nothing is going on.

Anyway, here's part 1 of the video check out part 2 and join us if you'd like. It's super smooth and very fast.

HTC Sensation 4G vs. Samsung Galaxy S II Dogfight Part 1 | PhoneDog
 
I watched part 1, and that was enough.

I won't ever get an HTC because I HATE Sense. It makes the natural android operating system harder to use.

Samsung has a bad reputation for not updating phone software. And while it looked like a nice phone the Bionic should blow it away....

I'm going to stick with Motorola.

Not a fan of HTC and Sense neither. Enjoy the Bionic!

Sent from my Droid
 
I have to give Apple credit. The phone is smooth and easy to use. The email setup was so much easier than Android my wife did it all herself (I did it for her on Android). It has push email which is nice also. Since you are locked into icons it will always run well and not get bogged down.

I still don't want one... Android rocks. My widgets are a huge part of using the phone. I like to change things and even though Apple is going to copy Androids pull down menu I still think if you like to mess with your phone you get an Android.

And the Bionic will blow it away in every way.

Let's hope they pack it with enough memory.


Oh yeah, baby, sing it. Widgets rock and I rarely use the hard keyboard either since I got Swype. That realization lead me to thinking I could make the jump to the Bionic because everything else about it was delicious. Now when I look at an iPhone or iPod Touch (people at work have been coming to me to show them off), they look boring with their rows of icons and I see nothing remotely interesting about them. However, I see their advantage for people who, for one reason or another, need simplicity.
 
I've had the Droid for 2 years and have rooted it etc... I know how it works backwards and forwards.

My dad bought an HTC Incredible when it came out. Of course he asked me to add things and change and fix things on it.

With Sense i had NO IDEA how the menu system worked. It took forever to find where to go and change things. I hated it.

I prefer of course nothing on top of Android but I'll put up with Blur if I have to. I run LauncherPro anyway.

Not a fan of HTC and Sense neither. Enjoy the Bionic!

Sent from my Droid
 
Yeah, also not a fan of Sense. Back in the WinMo days, Sense was great to help make that terrible OS less ****ty, and really set the HTC devices apart. When I first saw the Hero/Eris, I thought it looked pretty cool, but after using it for awhile I began to feel it made the device unnecessarily complicated. It looks like its more intuitive, yet ends up being just overwhelming and not very well thought out. Granted, it is the most unique, but it doesn't really feel as much like Android as it does an HTC product, which is not good IMHO. Not to mention it bogs a phone down, and is still quite evident even with a different launcher.

I definitely prefer TouchWiz out of the various manufacturer customizations. Granted, the stock launcher actually looks the worst, with its pseudo-iPhone cartoony feel, but the actual functionality is very close to stock Android, making it intuitive to use, if not that aesthetically pleasing. But changing to a good launcher makes it feel the most "stock" out of any of the manufacturers save the vanilla LG phones (I recommend GoLauncher for speed and functionality with a minimalist interface). The settings menu, and most operations are AOSP, or at least very similar, and the included apps can all be changed out if you don't like them. And I tend to quite like some of their customizations, such as adjusting brightness by sliding across the notification bar, and the pull-down power widgets. So basically, TW gets out of the way better than other interfaces, and with just basic theming and replacing a few apps, custom ROMs can mimic an AOSP experience without actually changing much, and you know those will always be an option since Samsung insists on open bootloaders. :cool:

I didn't even intend for that to reflect my growing preference for Samsung, but it just came through. I like all the companies, but I'm really digging my Charge, and Samsung seems to have the best philosophy for now. Here's to hoping the Bionic really can show the world that Moto is back, and at least be on par with the GS2 in terms of performance and user-friendliness (this includes open-ness/developability). I'm not exactly holding my breath, and am not really considering one personally, but I'm still quite curious as to whether Moto can truly deliver with this the way they need to.
 
My biggest problem is the internal storage. I've already had to delete apps I really, really like because they don't have the option to move to the SD card. I keep just enough storage available now to handle updates. LauncherPro gave my Droid a new lease performance wise though. I even wowed the contractual IT guy we got in earlier this week with it and he owns an iPhone! Seriously. He asked me, "Why Android? And why to you hate the iPhone?" I started with "I don't hate the iPhone, but here's why I like Android." Boy, was he under misconceptions. To begin with, he was shocked by its speed and smoothness.

He was not even aware of what Androids could really do and was wowed, really wowed, at every turn. Hell Bells, he was even simply blown away by the Cube transition effect on LauncherPro...an IT guy, go figure!?! lol I may have actually converted him. He knew nothing about Google integration or Amazon Music storage or a myriad of other things either.

He must have been a Windoze IT guy and not one versed in *nix. Otherwise he would be more well versed in the beauty of Android. And the cube is a great Compiz effect. And his beloved apple OS (though maybe not mobile) is based on BSD!
 
He must have been a Windoze IT guy and not one versed in *nix. Otherwise he would be more well versed in the beauty of Android. And the cube is a great Compiz effect. And his beloved apple OS (though maybe not mobile) is based on BSD!

Oh man, I love Compiz, especially with Emerald running on top, it really blows people away when they see a refined and attractive interface that doesn't really look like either of the two commercial OS'es. Not too surprising he's not familiar with that though, many IT guys I've talked to run Windows most of the time, and they experience Linux mostly through SSH, no gui there, ha. Still, I find it hard to believe that many IT guys aren't also tech enthusiasts who wanna try everything, like we are.

But yeah, iOS is indeed forked from OSX, built on the same Darwin core components, which is itself BSD derived, as you know. Specifically, their kernels are Unix-derived, and therefore feel quite similar through a terminal to our preferred Linux based OS'es, including of course Android. I would hope there's not an IT guy out there who doesn't know that the phone in his pocket is running a Unix-based kernel, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
 

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