Choosing the Nexus 5X over the Nexus 6P

[BuffOrange]

Re: Why did you buy or why are you considering the 5X over the 6P?

So I get that these huge companies employ people smarter than me to do research and have determined that big phones are where it's at. But the fact that the 6P was built and priced to be the superior value...Doesn't that sort of prove the point that there is a market for smaller phones? Otherwise why isn't the price difference $150 or $200? It's like they're saying "ya we know the 5x isn't the greatest for your buck but plenty of people who consider huge phones a non-starter will still buy it".

 

[PhiPsi32]

Re: Why did you buy or why are you considering the 5X over the 6P?

Yeah, that's it I think.

 

[danielcj]

Re: Why did you buy or why are you considering the 5X over the 6P?

I pre-ordered but then thought about the added value of the 6p for only $70 more. Then I remembered holding the Nexus 6 and thinking that there's no way I would be able to handle this size on a day to day basis. So I opted to customize a Moto X 2014 to look like a Nexus 5.2.

I regret using a white back as it is super slick and I hate using cases. So now I think the 5x will fit the bill. No more curved back, bigger battery and I'm pretty sure a better camera. I came from a Nexus 4 and didn't think the 5 at the time was a worthy upgrade even with LTE.

I will miss the Moto features though.

Moto X 2014

 

[theotherlinh]

Re: Why did you buy or why are you considering the 5X over the 6P?

If you look at it compared to the iphone 6s plus, the 6p is almost the exact width and substantially taller. Thats a big phone man..!
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While I agree the 6P is a big phone, the 6s Plus and 6P are virtually identical in size.

Moto G already has that covered at a much cheaper price. At least in the family and friends non-techie group category. I think Google should have put this phone "clearly" one full step up from something like the Moto G. Gave it at least 3GB of Ram, more storage, and possibly a better screen (not bigger). In short, I think this phone is going to struggle against the strong mid-range contenders.

eh, I am not sure the Moto G has it solidly covered. Using it for a month now, it's clearly the one I would recommend if you can't spend more than $250. It has stuttering issues. Screen looks cheap (I can see banding at random times/angles). And right now, my touchscreen is erratic enough to drive me nuts typing (gunna be a month before my RMA gets to me). And I'm a little hesitant on how Moto handled the 2015 E now. I know they technically fulfilled their requirement, but that just seems in bad taste.

 

[lordratner]

Re: Why did you buy or why are you considering the 5X over the 6P?

This is a sticking point for a lot off people. It appears Google believes the fast charging outweighs the need for wireless charging, but that's little comfort to those who have invested $$$ in the system.

I'm torn. I spent money on wireless charging, but I only use it at work, where I am constantly picking up and putting down my phone. At home I end up using my phone (which means no Qi charging) or setting it down for the night (which means wired is fine).

I still like the idea, but until wireless charging is fast... very fast, I don't think it will (or should) catch on.

 

[getbretweir]

Re: 5x / 6p - Torn... And how to finangle my way into one.

Two reasons. First, the 6 is just too big for me. Second, the 5X is made by LG whereas the 6 is made by a company with a not so good track record when it comes to quality, updates and support.

I always thought hardware was one of the things Hauwei excelled at ... and updates/support come from Google, so that shouldn't be if concern

 

[anon(464338)]

Re: Why did you buy or why are you considering the 5X over the 6P?

While I agree the 6P is a big phone, the 6s Plus and 6P are virtually identical in size.



eh, I am not sure the Moto G has it solidly covered. Using it for a month now, it's clearly the one I would recommend if you can't spend more than $250. It has stuttering issues. Screen looks cheap (I can see banding at random times/angles). And right now, my touchscreen is erratic enough to drive me nuts typing (gunna be a month before my RMA gets to me). And I'm a little hesitant on how Moto handled the 2015 E now. I know they technically fulfilled their requirement, but that just seems in bad taste.

Yeah looks like the 6p has about a little over 1 mm in height on the iphone 6s+, still a very large phone.

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[mindhead1]

Re: Why did you buy or why are you considering the 5X over the 6P?

I'm happy with my moto x 2nd gen, however the Nexus 5X is tempting. The Nexus 5 was very popular and I've always wanted to own one.

I also own a Moto X2. It's a great device when it's working (had to get 2 replacements from Moto for different reasons). I'm not schilling for Moto but you can still get a 2014 Moto X for $300 from Moto Maker. For those that don't want the phablet and think Nexus 5x is to expensive the 2014 Moto X is worth a look.

From a performance perspective the Moto X2 is great. Snapdragon 801 and 2GB of RAM have no problems running Lollipop and anything I do with the phone (I am not a gamer) so I don't think the 5x will have any performance issues for the majority of users.

The 5x has a 1080p screen and 2700 mAh battery which should allow the device to get through a day with ease and provide 4-5 hours of SOT. I base these assumptions on the 3.5 - 4 hour SOT I get on my Moto X2 with a 1080p screen and 2300 mAh battery.

I realize the Moto X and Nexus 5x are built by different companies and thus may behave differently, but they are so similarly spec'd I expect performance will be comparable.

Also, with regard to screen. Is anything over 1080p on a phone really necessary? I'll take longer battery life over a marginal improvement in screen quality any day.

So why get a 5x if you already own a Moto X2? The enhancements. Fingerprint scanner, improved camera and bigger battery being the primary improvements. It's marginal upgrade coming from a Moto X2, but a significant upgrade if coming from a Nexus 4 or 5, or an OG Moto X (I have owned them all).

Also, it's a new toy to play with and yes I have a phone problem.

I'm happy with my moto x 2nd gen, however the Nexus 5X is tempting. The Nexus 5 was very popular and I've always wanted to own one.

I also own a Moto X2. It's a great device when it's working (had to get 2 replacements from Moto for different reasons).

From a performance perspective the Moto X2 is great.

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[guapinoy]

Re: Why did you buy or why are you considering the 5X over the 6P?

The Moto X 2014's camera no es bueno. That horrible ring flash which gave everyone red eyes at night. And horrible low light without it. Though HDR outside day shots are not bad.

The Nexus 5X is for anyone who wants an upgrade in that department. It can potentially rival anything Apple, Samsung, or LG in stock Android...wow.

Plus getting 2 years worth of upgrade. The initial marshmallow release is probably the only upgrade the Moto X2 will get, IMO.

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[Adranalyne]

Re: Why did you buy or why are you considering the 5X over the 6P?

I really like the "less is more" approach of the 5X. They opted to go 1080p over 1440p because the gains are minimal in display quality, but the performance and battery gains can be substantial. They went with the S808 because it's powerful enough to run this software, but doesn't get hot like the S810 which will throttle performance. They increased the battery size from 2300 mah to 2700 mah with more efficient software and hardware. They didn't skimp on the camera, included fast charging, and added a fingerprint scanner.

If you've got a Nexus 5 running the M Dev Preview, you know that phone still flies. Now add a more powerful CPU, potentially a more efficient IPS panel, a much improved camera, a fingerprint scanner, a larger battery, and fast charging. I didn't hesitate for a second to buy this thing. The only question mark I have is the RAM (they could have gone for 3GB to help future proof this and sell it for $399/449), but the 1080p screen and S808 tell me this thing will still be plenty fast.

 

[Aquila]

Re: 5x / 6p - Torn... And how to finangle my way into one.

I always thought hardware was one of the things Hauwei excelled at ... and updates/support come from Google, so that shouldn't be if concern

This is my impression too but I've never owned anything from huawei.

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[asherN]

Re: Why did you buy or why are you considering the 5X over the 6P?

I'm torn. I spent money on wireless charging, but I only use it at work, where I am constantly picking up and putting down my phone. At home I end up using my phone (which means no Qi charging) or setting it down for the night (which means wired is fine).

I still like the idea, but until wireless charging is fast... very fast, I don't think it will (or should) catch on.

I hear a lot of that "Qi charging isn't fast enough" comment. It depends on use case. With my usage, I rarely need to charge during the day. I have a Forrader Qi charger, phone sits almost upright so I can see the clock on my night stand. I usually go to bed later than my wife, so not having to fumble with a cord in the dark is a big plus. And the phone is on the stand a minimum of 6 hours. At that point, it does not really matter how fast it charges. USB-C is nice, will make it a bit easier to connect. But it still means a cord that can fall behind the night stand.

USB-C fast charge and Qi charging should not be an either/or choice. And the thickness argument does not fly. How thick is the coil? 1mm?

My N5 is near 2 years old. I was looking forward to upgrading. But that is a deal breaker for me.

 

[Runningwarrior08]

Re: Why did you buy or why are you considering the 5X over the 6P?

I hear a lot of that "Qi charging isn't fast enough" comment. It depends on use case. With my usage, I rarely need to charge during the day. I have a Forrader Qi charger, phone sits almost upright so I can see the clock on my night stand. I usually go to bed later than my wife, so not having to fumble with a cord in the dark is a big plus. And the phone is on the stand a minimum of 6 hours. At that point, it does not really matter how fast it charges. USB-C is nice, will make it a bit easier to connect. But it still means a cord that can fall behind the night stand.

USB-C fast charge and Qi charging should not be an either/or choice. And the thickness argument does not fly. How thick is the coil? 1mm?

My N5 is near 2 years old. I was looking forward to upgrading. But that is a deal breaker for me.

Honestly I think it has 0 to do with thickness like they are saying. My thought is with the 810 they were afraid of heat while charging wirelessly. Not saying it would cause it to overheat but wireless charging is very lossy=heat... Maybe it is just enough to cause issues? I have 4 wireless chargers and wish they kept it but I'm hoping with the large battery I won't need it...

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[mrsmumbles]

Re: Why did you buy or why are you considering the 5X over the 6P?

I must admit I'm tempted by the 5x. I've been really happy with my original 5 the past couple of years. I'm still most likely going with the Moto G3 because I want the SD support. I'm waiting until the holiday sales start to see if Moto might drop the price a bit.

 

[opteron7]

Re: Why did you buy or why are you considering the 5X over the 6P?

5x _ 32gb _ ice

Regretting on selecting ice and don't want to cancel my order to wait even longer.

 

[PhiPsi32]

Re: Why did you buy or why are you considering the 5X over the 6P?

5x _ 32gb _ ice

Regretting on selecting ice and don't want to cancel my order to wait even longer.

I canceled and re-ordered Friday to change my shipping address. My delivery estimate didn't change Oct 28-30. Maybe yours is sooner?

 

[Zendroid1]

Re: Why did you buy or why are you considering the 5X over the 6P?

5x _ 32gb _ ice

Regretting on selecting ice and don't want to cancel my order to wait even longer.

You are in luck that google orders are easy to cancel. Place the order now for the one you actually want. See what ship date you are given. Then cancel one of the orders depending on what date you are given on the new order.

 

[Tadrift]

Re: Why did you buy or why are you considering the 5X over the 6P?

While I agree the 6P is a big phone, the 6s Plus and 6P are virtually identical in size.



eh, I am not sure the Moto G has it solidly covered. Using it for a month now, it's clearly the one I would recommend if you can't spend more than $250. It has stuttering issues. Screen looks cheap (I can see banding at random times/angles). And right now, my touchscreen is erratic enough to drive me nuts typing (gunna be a month before my RMA gets to me). And I'm a little hesitant on how Moto handled the 2015 E now. I know they technically fulfilled their requirement, but that just seems in bad taste.

I owned the Moto G and I can't argue to much with what you are saying, except my screen was fine and I think maybe that you just got a bad one. As far as stuttering goes, I had that as well, but only when I had several Apps opened and it ran out of ram. Which is the main reason I had to move on from it and get something else. It wasn't all that under powered, in as much as, it just doesn't have enough ram for a medium user like me, let a lone a heavy user.

Which is why I am so disappointed in the 5X. It was one of the fundamental problems with the Moto G. Although I won't convince many owners that just spent the bucks on a 5X that the G is its competitor. It really is. If you are willing to live with 2GB of Ram or less.

 

[Tadrift]

Re: Why did you buy or why are you considering the 5X over the 6P?

I really like the "less is more" approach of the 5X. They opted to go 1080p over 1440p because the gains are minimal in display quality, but the performance and battery gains can be substantial. They went with the S808 because it's powerful enough to run this software, but doesn't get hot like the S810 which will throttle performance. They increased the battery size from 2300 mah to 2700 mah with more efficient software and hardware. They didn't skimp on the camera, included fast charging, and added a fingerprint scanner.

If you've got a Nexus 5 running the M Dev Preview, you know that phone still flies. Now add a more powerful CPU, potentially a more efficient IPS panel, a much improved camera, a fingerprint scanner, a larger battery, and fast charging. I didn't hesitate for a second to buy this thing. The only question mark I have is the RAM (they could have gone for 3GB to help future proof this and sell it for $399/449), but the 1080p screen and S808 tell me this thing will still be plenty fast.

I really think you hit it right on with your description of the situation and I think what you wrote was very well said and reflects the majority of people considering buying this phone. Despite my comments about compromise and the less then appealing camera bump, I am just convinced that the 2GB or ram is going to be an issue. The truth is, for some people it will not be an issue, but for the heavy users it will be without a doubt. The question becomes, where is that line where it becomes a problem. Just maybe, Google (when Moto G was not) was able to move that line more towards being acceptable for medium users. I am somewhere in the middle myself. I just can't bring myself to pay the money this time to find out.

(side note to all others) Yes, I still believe it is over priced and competes with medium range devices. I am just trying to keep and open mind. I really want to like this phone, and yes I am still disappointed, but that doesn't mean I won't give it a try. I just love stock android that much and there aren't many choices.

I would be genuinely interested in your feedback when you get your 5X.

 

[Adranalyne]

Re: Why did you buy or why are you considering the 5X over the 6P?

I really think you hit it right on with your description of the situation and I think what you wrote was very well said and reflects the majority of people considering buying this phone. Despite my comments about compromise and the less then appealing camera bump, I am just convinced that the 2GB or ram is going to be an issue. The truth is, for some people it will not be an issue, but for the heavy users it will be without a doubt. The question becomes, where is that line where it becomes a problem. Just maybe, Google (when Moto G was not) was able to move that line more towards being acceptable for medium users. I am somewhere in the middle myself. I just can't bring myself to pay the money this time to find out.

(side note to all others) Yes, I still believe it is over priced and competes with medium range devices. I am just trying to keep and open mind. I really want to like this phone, and yes I am still disappointed, but that doesn't mean I won't give it a try. I just love stock android that much and there aren't many choices.

I would be genuinely interested in your feedback when you get your 5X.

Appreciate the comments. There's some cause for concern as far as being future proof is concerned, but my experience with the Nexus 5 running the M Dev Preview has been really positive. The 2GB of RAM and S800 don't seem to be an issue for that device at all. The S808 should make a significant difference in keeping this device relevant for at least 2 years. I'd be hesitant to say so, but I think there's a conscious effort in Marshmallow to use RAM better with every improvement they make to ART.

I'll be glad to share my experiences with this thing just as soon as Google sends it to me. Definitely looking forward to it.

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