Chromebooks are awful. And here are some examples why.

[JeffDenver]

And hundreds of dollars.

I've already debunked this myth.

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[Almeuit]

Backed up. I agree.

It is good as a back up. Not as a primary workspace. What happens if your internet goes down?

If it goes down.. You have it saved for offline? Usually when you save for offline it creates a sync.. So you could even do stuff offline that will sync back to online.

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[UJ95x]

I've already debunked this myth.

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Yeah, but those laptops are bulky and weigh about 5 pounds. Not to mention that performance is sub-par. If you want something that runs as smoothly as a Chromebook or is as light/thin you're looking at spending at least $800 for a new Windows laptop. And most of those still use HDDs.

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[JeffDenver]

If it goes down.. You have it saved for offline?

And you will have to do that continually.

And if you are continually making a backup of everything, what is the point of using the internet as your primary workspace? I can make backups to the internet just as easily on my Win8 PC, and without having to be dependent on the internet.

 

[JeffDenver]

Yeah, but those laptops are bulky and weigh about 5 pounds.

So you are conceding that your claim that they cost "hundreds of dollars" more is incorrect?

Not to mention that performance is sub-par.

According to who? I've actually used them. I still do.

If you want something that runs as smoothly as a Chromebook or is as light/thin you're looking at spending at least $800 for a new Windows laptop.

LOL

 

[Almeuit]

And you will have to do that continually.

And if you are continually making a backup of everything, what is the point of using the internet as your primary workspace? I can make backups to the internet just as easily on my Win8 PC, and without having to be dependent on the internet.

Continually? Do you know how syncs work? I do nothing but change things online and in seconds it happens my phone.. No extra work for me.

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[Almeuit]

Also did I say primary workspace? I said use both. I agree with using both.. I'm just saying it's not bad to sync online either.. This way you have it via your hard drive.. Or via the Internet Incase your computer / Chromebooks dies or you leave it at home.. Etc.

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[Aquila]

And you will have to do that continually.

And if you are continually making a backup of everything, what is the point of using the internet as your primary workspace? I can make backups to the internet just as easily on my Win8 PC, and without having to be dependent on the internet.

When you're online it syncs continually - when you're offline it saves offline continually and syncs when you go back online. You don't have to go find a save button or anything like that, it's invisible to the user except for the availability across devices when not yet sync'd (obviously). It's about the same idea as the "auto-save" function of Word, Excel, etc - except saved after just about every edit.

 

[JeffDenver]

When you're online it syncs continually - when you're offline it saves offline continually and syncs when you go back online. You don't have to go find a save button or anything like that

I can do the same thing with local programs. They can save continuously. More importantly, there is less need for it. Because they are local. My work will not come to a screeching halt because they internet goes out. And it is not just the internet...their servers have to be running too.

I have experienced this first hand with Google Docs. It is annoying as hell. If I did not already have local copies of Office installed it would cause a lot of problems for me at work.

I don't see what being dependent on the internet is adding. Why it is better.

 

[UJ95x]

So you are conceding that your claim that they cost "hundreds of dollars" more is incorrect?


According to who? I've actually used them. I still do.


LOL

I'm saying that if I had to choose between a $300 Chromebook and a $300 Windows laptop it would be a no-brainer. In order for me to even consider getting a Windows laptop I'd have to look at those priced several hundred dollars higher than even the most expensive Chromebook (Not counting the Pixel, of course.)

I say that the performance is sub-par. I have a laptop from about two years ago that cost ~$650 at the time. It had better specs than the ones you posted above and it was still painfully slow. The weight of around 6 lbs. is also well over what you'd get on any Chrome book.

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[Almeuit]

I can do the same thing with local programs. They can save continuously. More importantly, there is less need for it. Because they are local. My work will not come to a screeching halt because they internet goes out. And it is not just the internet...their servers have to be running too.

I have experienced this first hand with Google Docs. It is annoying as hell. If I did not already have local copies of Office installed it would cause a lot of problems for me at work.

I don't see what being dependent on the internet is adding. Why it is better.

You really aren't reading what I am writing.

It syncs. Offline and online. Simple as that. If the Internet goes down you can still use the offline copy and once the Internet is back it will sync the changes to the offline file back to the online file.

Please stop repeating what I am not saying. I am not saying to use the Internet and that is it.. I am saying use both and sync. Best of both.

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[JeffDenver]

I'm saying that if I had to choose between a $300 Chromebook and a $300 Windows laptop it would be a no-brainer. In order for me to even consider getting a Windows laptop I'd have to look at those priced several hundred dollars higher than even the most expensive Chromebook (Not counting the Pixel, of course.)

That has not been my experience.

I say that the performance is sub-par. I have a laptop from about two years ago that cost ~$650 at the time. It had better specs than the ones you posted above and it was still painfully slow. The weight of around 6 lbs. is also well over what you'd get on any Chrome book.

So you are saying you have not used the newer cheap laptops?

 

[JeffDenver]

I am saying use both and sync. Best of both.

What is the chromebook doing that you could not also do on the Win8 laptop?

 

[zkSharks]

Backed up. I agree.

It is good as a back up. Not as a primary workspace. What happens if your internet goes down?

If you're using Chrome OS and are unable to continue working when network connectivity is lost, there are really only two considerable faults: first, the user, for not using the platform's tools in this regard; second, the developer of the app in question, for more or less the same reason (if said app does not offer such functions).

Is this a question of platform design, current capability, or third-party app dependency? Those can be very different questions.

And you will have to do that continually.

And if you are continually making a backup of everything, what is the point of using the internet as your primary workspace? I can make backups to the internet just as easily on my Win8 PC, and without having to be dependent on the internet.

No, third-party apps do this for you because the platform works around two principles at its core: online connectivity, and offline sync to "bridge" those times when you don't have said connectivity.

It seems like you're putting the traditional Windows paradigm of "local first, cloud for backup and sync" against that of Chrome OS, more or less "cloud first, local for backup and sync," and then expressing disappointment with the network-centric aspect of that approach. I'll go back to what Spock said:

If you're saying you prefer to use a specific program that's only available on Microsoft, cool... but that's you and it doesn't mean that others can't get the same task accomplished on a Mac or on Linux or anything else. There is nothing wrong with having a preferred way of doing things, but that doesn't equate to a "better" way in any objective sense.

Plus, we're seeing new features for Chrome OS as well as a rise in web apps that should almost certainly continue. This points to an improving platform, much like Win8 to 8.1, no?

And as for compromises in functionality, it isn't as black and white as some make it seem. Chrome Remote Desktop allows anyone with a Windows machine at home to run more intensive or specialized applications by way of the Chromebook, given that there's a network connection of course. There's also Linux to consider, for those looking for a more standard local environment (albeit with relatively little storage).

This is all given a platform that was built on a different principle and largely for a different price point, though obviously both platforms overlap significantly in that regard now.

Also, why does Chrome OS need to do anything specific that Windows can't, aside from working differently?

 

[Almeuit]

What is the chromebook doing that you could not also do on the Win8 laptop?

I never said anything about a Chromebook doing it better.. You simply bashed using the Internet and only using local. I said.. What's the harm in both? That's my question.. What is the harm in a simple sync?

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[UJ95x]

That has not been my experience.


So you are saying you have not used the newer cheap laptops?

I have. And they are still not on par with the Chromebooks in terms of performance.

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[Kevin OQuinn]

I would use a Chromebook over the Asus T100 Win8 Bay Trail based dockable windows tablet. Which just so happens to run better and/or as well as similarly priced larger and heavier windows machines, but not as good as a still cheaper Chromebook.

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[Golfdriver97]

I have. And they are still not on par with the Chromebooks in terms of performance.

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I am highly inclined to agree. My laptop is about a year old, and multi tasking? Please spare me dying of laughter. My processor, with 6 GB of RAM can't handle Windows Search in 8.1, it gets too bogged down. It can't handle a couple chrome windows and a couple hangouts chats at the same time. My Acer C720 can easily.

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[U WOT M8]

Why would anyone want a chrome book over a normal laptop?

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[Kevin OQuinn]

Why would anyone want a chrome book over a normal laptop?

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This has been discussed at length in the rest of the thread.

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