Chromebooks are awful. And here are some examples why.

[JeffDenver]

Ahem:

I keep forgetting you seem to think I am not entitled to an opinion.

And that you seem to apply different standards to me than everyone else on here.

 

[A895]

I keep forgetting you seem to think I am not entitled to an opinion.

And that you seem to apply different standards to me than everyone else on here.

You are saying your opinion like it is fact. That's the problem.

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[ultravisitor]

I keep forgetting you seem to think I am not entitled to an opinion.

And that you seem to apply different standards to me than everyone else on here.

Look over this thread. I'm not the only person to whom it appears that you have trouble separating your opinions from fact.

 

[MERCDROID]

I keep forgetting you seem to think I am not entitled to an opinion.

And that you seem to apply different standards to me than everyone else on here.

Of course, you're entitled to an opinion. The problem comes from you projecting your opinion as an absolute: if it doesn't work for you, then it doesn't work at all. Therefore, Chromebooks suck. That's what people keep seeing in your replies.

It's ok, for Chromebooks to not work for your use case. But, just because they don't work for you, doesn't mean they don't work at all. They do have a target market.

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[Kevin OQuinn]

You're allowed an opinion too.


It has in my experience.

The lag I see usually involves virtual memory usage. More RAM eliminates that. I am not seeing CPU-based lag anywhere on these Win8 systems when they have enough memory. Office apps in general are not all that demanding.


Not on the laptops I have used it doesn't.

The desktop system I am using right now has similar specs. I have Outlook, Word, Origination software, Chrome (with 5 tabes) and Photoshop open. I can swap between them at will with no disk activity and no lag. this desktop is windows 7...my experiences on Windows 8 are even better.

We are having different experiences. That's not an opinion. Just saying.

Again, I get which parts of a PC will cause what performance issues, and I never blamed the CPU for any of the lag I've seen. I specifically stated it was an i7 to eliminate the CPU as a factor in the equation.

Another experience of mine is that a Chromebook with 2gb RAM and a Haswell Celeron has no problem with 20+ Chrome tabs open at the same time, with more than one holding on to a Doc in Drive, one streaming music on Google Music, and at least one other with a paused YouTube video in it. The others will have various websites loaded. This is not easily replicated on a Windows machine with just 4gb of RAM (more Dead Jim's). I'm not sure you understand how annoying Dead Jim is when you need to close stuff just to load the web page that you need. You know, since 4gb of RAM apparently acts totally different for you than it does for me.

 

[JeffDenver]

You are saying your opinion like it is fact. That's the problem.

When did I claim it was objective? Do I need to preface every sentence with "IMO"?

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Look over this thread. I'm not the only person to whom it appears that you have trouble separating your opinions from fact.

Yes, it is shocking that so many people on an Android forum might not my opinion about a Google product.

Why does your quoted comment not also apply to everyone else? "Each person has a unique use case. Just because something doesn't work well for you does not mean it won't work well for someone else."...explain why you think that does not apply to Kevin as well.

 

[JeffDenver]

Of course, you're entitled to an opinion. The problem comes from you projecting your opinion as an absolute.

Which I have not done.

Maybe you are reading more into my comments than is actually there?

: if it doesn't work for you, then it doesn't work at all. Therefore, Chromebooks suck. That's what people keep seeing in your replies.

Which is accurate...in my opinion they suck. I'm allowed an opinion. And unlike a lot of people on here, I actually explained my opinion.

 

[Google_Superuser]

I can't believe this thread has gone on for 10 pages and over a month!

 

[ultravisitor]

When did I claim it was objective?

It's not stated, but rather implied in your attitude and use of language throughout this thread.

Yes, it is shocking that so many people on an Android forum might not my opinion about a Google product.

Move the target much?

"Each person has a unique use case. Just because something doesn't work well for you does not mean it won't work well for someone else."...explain why you think that does not apply to Kevin as well.

That absolutely applies to Kevin. Are you not paying attention to what he's saying?

 

[A895]

Which I have not done.

Maybe you are reading more into my comments than is actually there?


Which is accurate...in my opinion they suck. I'm allowed an opinion. And unlike a lot of people on here, I actually explained my opinion.

How does a chromebook suck? You don't like the fact there are laptop devices at low cost giving a lot of people access to the web?

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[Kevin OQuinn]

When did I claim it was objective? Do I need to preface every sentence with "IMO"?

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Yes, it is shocking that so many people on an Android forum might not my opinion about a Google product.

Why does your quoted comment not also apply to everyone else? "Each person has a unique use case. Just because something doesn't work well for you does not mean it won't work well for someone else."...explain why you think that does not apply to Kevin as well.

It absolutely does apply to me as well. I'm listing my experiences. Those are facts to me. Your experience is different. Those are facts to you. The question is, who is having a more "normal" experience. Is it me, with my performance issues with only 4gb RAM, or you, with your mostly smooth running machine? Who knows. But if more people are mimicking my experience vs your experience than guess what's going to happen?

I think the problem is that many people have come in here and said they had performance issues with cheap windows laptops, and you're saying they shouldn't have based on your experience. Like they weren't seeing what they said they were (didn't you accuse someone else of doing that to you?) You're actually trying to do that to me, too. Saying that because you have a similar spec'd machine to me that I shouldn't have any issues. Yet I do. I'm not perplexed by this at all. It could simply be a case of expectations. It's possible my idea of "good" performance is different than yours. And that my "acceptable" is not realistic. It's also possible that your expectations are too low and you're just not honest enough about what's reasonable performance these days.

For a reference, here are the specs of my desktop:

Core i7-3770k
16gb RAM
500gb Samsung 840 EVO SSD
NVIDIA GTX-780

I don't have any performance issues doing anything I want on that desktop. If all I'm doing is running Chrome, though, it's not substantially faster than a Chromebook. Is it faster? Yes. Does it leave the Chromebook in the dust? Not really. If all I ever wanted/needed to do was run Chrome I wouldn't buy a nicer laptop or desktop, because it's simply not necessary for a good experience.

I have the desktop I have because I play games. Plain and simple. That's what stops me from using Chromebooks exclusively at home. At work, I'm forced into Windows.

I also don't hate Windows. I like it as an OS, really. It's just not necessary for what a lot of people use their computers for anymore.

 

[Golfdriver97]

I actually can't wait to get a Chromebook. I have a laptop that was about $200, 2 GB RAM, and a 1.3GHz AMD E-300 Accelerated Processor, 1MB L2 Cache. I added 4 GB RAM, and with 3 chrome windows open, and 2 Hangouts windows open, it lags...about as often as not. Lagged a lot with Win8.0, slightly less with 8.1. As soon as I can get the cash, I will test out a Chromebook.

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[A895]

I actually can't wait to get a Chromebook. I have a laptop that was about $200, 2 GB RAM, and a 1.3GHz AMD E-300 Accelerated Processor, 1MB L2 Cache. I added 4 GB RAM, and with 3 chrome windows open, and 2 Hangouts windows open, it lags...about as often as not. Lagged a lot with Win8.0, slightly less with 8.1. As soon as I can get the cash, I will test out a Chromebook.

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I want to try one too. I might get one this summer before the fall semester.

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[MERCDROID]

I actually can't wait to get a Chromebook. I have a laptop that was about $200, 2 GB RAM, and a 1.3GHz AMD E-300 Accelerated Processor, 1MB L2 Cache. I added 4 GB RAM, and with 3 chrome windows open, and 2 Hangouts windows open, it lags...about as often as not. Lagged a lot with Win8.0, slightly less with 8.1. As soon as I can get the cash, I will test out a Chromebook.

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Despite the obvious limitations, I can say that I absolutely love my Samsung Chromebook. The screen looks great, the performance is great, the battery life is great, you get the point, lol. For $250, you definitely do get your money's worth. I would wait until Samsung revamps it's Chromebooks, as they're rumored to be releasing two models this year. Also, Lenovo is rumored to be releasing several models this year.

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[Aquila]

Photoshop has a browser based solution of their own, and there are also other apps that people have been using effectively for a long time such as pixlr and aviary.

XT1060. Through spacetime.

 

[Trojann2]

Exactly...Chromebooks only make sense if you can afford more than one laptop. That was my whole point.

Most people won't buy more than one laptop though, especially people who are on such a tight budget that they are looking at a $199 Chromebook in the first place.

But...my Chromebook isn't a second laptop. It's MY ONLY LAPTOP and I rarely actually power on my TOWER gaming rig.

I sold my 2009 Macbook Pro and bought a Chromebook and I haven't been happier.

 

[ultravisitor]

But...my Chromebook isn't a second laptop. It's MY ONLY LAPTOP and I rarely actually power on my TOWER gaming rig.

I sold my 2009 Macbook Pro and bought a Chromebook and I haven't been happier.

Then you are obviously someone who doesn't make sense! Or, at least, your decisions don't make sense. Whatever the line of reasoning is.

 

[A895]

But...my Chromebook isn't a second laptop. It's MY ONLY LAPTOP and I rarely actually power on my TOWER gaming rig.

I sold my 2009 Macbook Pro and bought a Chromebook and I haven't been happier.

More power to you. If you are happy then whatever else does not matter.

 

[Daniel Ratcliffe]

4gb of RAM is not enough for a good Windows experience. It's just not. 6gb is a bare minimum to get a good Windows experience. "Good" and "acceptable" are not interchangeable.

6GB? I've got 8GB DDR3 RAM and my Windows experience is only "Acceptable". And that's with an i5 and AMD Radeon HD6770. Think it's time to go to 64GB RAM.

And yes, that includes running two AMD Radeons in CrossFire.

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[A895]

6GB? I've got 8GB DDR3 RAM and my Windows experience is only "Acceptable". And that's with an i5 and AMD Radeon HD6770. Think it's time to go to 64GB RAM.

And yes, that includes running two AMD Radeons in CrossFire.

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