Confirmed, we have the worst still camera...

[zmann]

Again, as I said before and no one comment to agree, disagree or whatever. I have not changed any settings. Simply take a pic and then at anytime all you got to do is tap pic, hit effects and hit auto enhance. In my opinion it makes the picture look very good. I also keep in mind that it's a phone. I have stacks of pictures I have printed on glossy picture print paper and whoever looks at them cant believe I took them from my phone.

EVO-LUTION 3D

 

[Wiley_11]

Again, as I said before and no one comment to agree, disagree or whatever. I have not changed any settings. Simply take a pic and then at anytime all you got to do is tap pic, hit effects and hit auto enhance. In my opinion it makes the picture look very good. I also keep in mind that it's a phone. I have stacks of pictures I have printed on glossy picture print paper and whoever looks at them cant believe I took them from my phone.

EVO-LUTION 3D

Thanks for the tip!! My camera seemed pretty good *for a phone* when I got it. I changed the settings about a month later. It looks even better now. Have your tip in my notes app along with the new settings. LOOT

 

[wernd]

So does everyone have a 1 second delay for taking pics? I mean I touch the shutter button on the screen and it takes about a second for the pic to happen. I'm assuming everyone is but not sure

 

[cubetop]

So does everyone have a 1 second delay for taking pics? I mean I touch the shutter button on the screen and it takes about a second for the pic to happen. I'm assuming everyone is but not sure

Mine has a delay that seems to correspond to shutter speed(sort of). If it's dark, there's a longer delay. I usually have to retake pics a few times because it will focus and then snap the pic but since there's a little hand movement, it will be blurry. This happens much less outside in brighter light. (That's why I guess it's related to shutter speed.)

Still....love my camera overall. Think it takes pretty good shots when I don't blur them up and the 3D is AWESOME! (I just wish I could get closer to subjects but I understand the need for distance.)

 

[aedenone]

One thing that makes this camera unusable by some is the clear fact that there is a half to one second delay between clicking the shutter and the camera actually taking the picture. Whether I press the camera button or the shutter button on the screen this happens without fail. To me this is beyond annoying and makes the camera unusable for that quick snapshot that tends to pop up at some random time on a given day.

You can talk all you want about changing settings or flashing different roms that have camera mods (all of which I have done), and I'll be honest I have taken some pretty good scenic shots of landscapes and stuff that doesn't move, but when I hang out with my niece or nephew and I want to snap a few photos (with my settings changed accordingly) all I get is a bunch of blurry useless images. I would LOVE it if someone came on here and said "hey all you have to do is change blah blah blah and your picture will be taken as soon as you press the shutter", I would be ecstatic, but I know that we all suffer from the same issue and unless there is a software update it is not fixable.

Videos are fine and I have no complaints about that.

My wife and some of my friends have iphone and there is NO QUESTION that the stupid camera on a phone that is over a year older than my 3d takes significantly better pics and does not suffer from shutter lag. I try to sell android on my friends with all the great options and customization we have but in the end I take a pic of us hanging out and my buddy will just laugh it off and use his iphone which ends up looking way better. Granted, the camera is not everything but I do like to take a photo here and there. For my use this phone is "almost" perfect and would be if the shutter lag were fixed.

in short:

landscape or anything NOT moving = good picture with the right settings
Videos = look great, I cant complain at all
anything moving, and even a slow movement = looks terrible due to shutter lag


Please, I would love it if someone came on here and told us how to fix shutter lag

 

[CarrieK]

Please see page two for a post of a "moving" shot. I've taken lots of moving shots, but the one in particular is of a friend of mine climbing a box car and a football is being thrown at him. He was not posing but in the act of climbing and the football was not suspended in air waiting patiently for me to get the shot.

Lag depends on several factors, like whether or not face detection and/or flash is on and also on duration of review time you have set.

 

[aedenone]

Please see page two for a post of a "moving" shot. I've taken lots of moving shots, but the one in particular is of a friend of mine climbing a box car and a football is being thrown at him. He was not posing but in the act of climbing and the football was not suspended in air waiting patiently for me to get the shot.

Lag depends on several factors, like whether or not face detection and/or flash is on and also on duration of review time you have set.

I have seen your post and your picture does indeed look good. There is no question that at times I may be able to "get lucky" with a moving shot and it will not turn out blurry but the shutter lag persists no matter what.

As long as there is shutter lag it is impossible to time a shot correctly making this camera very limited in what it can do. I do not use flash and I will turn off face detection to see if it helps, I also have tried all kinds of different review duration times including none.

One could argue that "its just a cell phone camera what do you expect?" I expect a top of the line smartphone to be at least on par with the competition (especially if the competition has been out for over a year).

 

[CarrieK]

I have seen your post and your picture does indeed look good. There is no question that at times I may be able to "get lucky" with a moving shot and it will not turn out blurry but the shutter lag persists no matter what.

As long as there is shutter lag it is impossible to time a shot correctly making this camera very limited in what it can do. I do not use flash and I will turn off face detection to see if it helps, I also have tried all kinds of different review duration times including none.

One could argue that "its just a cell phone camera what do you expect?" I expect a top of the line smartphone to be at least on par with the competition (especially if the competition has been out for over a year).

I agree with everything you said. I can assure you, though, that shot isn't one of those "the sun shines on a dog's behind from time-to-time" examples. I ended up with lots of great candid pics of the guys messing around that day, I just can't post them. I've also taken pictures of my step-son, my cat, you name it. I'm a picture nut. My husband jokes that we never should have bought our digital camera because I never use it, I always use my cell phone camera instead.

I don't know what to say to those who can't get the results they want. If it is truly that bad for them then they do just need to switch phones.

 

[VickMackey#AC]

One thing that makes this camera unusable by some is the clear fact that there is a half to one second delay between clicking the shutter and the camera actually taking the picture. Whether I press the camera button or the shutter button on the screen this happens without fail. To me this is beyond annoying and makes the camera unusable for that quick snapshot that tends to pop up at some random time on a given day.

You can talk all you want about changing settings or flashing different roms that have camera mods (all of which I have done), and I'll be honest I have taken some pretty good scenic shots of landscapes and stuff that doesn't move, but when I hang out with my niece or nephew and I want to snap a few photos (with my settings changed accordingly) all I get is a bunch of blurry useless images. I would LOVE it if someone came on here and said "hey all you have to do is change blah blah blah and your picture will be taken as soon as you press the shutter", I would be ecstatic, but I know that we all suffer from the same issue and unless there is a software update it is not fixable.

Videos are fine and I have no complaints about that.

My wife and some of my friends have iphone and there is NO QUESTION that the stupid camera on a phone that is over a year older than my 3d takes significantly better pics and does not suffer from shutter lag. I try to sell android on my friends with all the great options and customization we have but in the end I take a pic of us hanging out and my buddy will just laugh it off and use his iphone which ends up looking way better. Granted, the camera is not everything but I do like to take a photo here and there. For my use this phone is "almost" perfect and would be if the shutter lag were fixed.

in short:

landscape or anything NOT moving = good picture with the right settings
Videos = look great, I cant complain at all
anything moving, and even a slow movement = looks terrible due to shutter lag


Please, I would love it if someone came on here and told us how to fix shutter lag

brilliant. Absolutely fantastic point mate. Shutter lag IS almost a deal breaker

 

[warpdrive]

I agree, there is some lag. but trust me, ALL cameras have this. go onto any camera review web site and you'll see that they test for this. the cameras that have the least amount of lag are dSLR cameras. next are the high end point and shoots. followed close by the lower end point and shoots that have far more shutter lag.....then we have cell phones. yes even the iphones have some lag.

I
One could argue that "its just a cell phone camera what do you expect?" I expect a top of the line smartphone to be at least on par with the competition (especially if the competition has been out for over a year).

while I agree with you, it is not reasonable for many companys to do just what you are asking. all phone manufactures have to make some parts cheaply or the price of our phones would be well beyond what you are seeing today.
so if we get the best radios, the best screen, the best software/widgets, the best camera, the best battery, and so on...JUST WHAT WOULD YOU PAY FOR THIS? $200 more then you are paying now? $300 more? $400 more? do you really want to buy a $900 phone?
and just when do we stop? should we now want a real zoom lens on our phones? because a good set of glass on a phone alone is going to skyrocket the price by at least $200.

as said, you can turn off a few features and get less lag. but if you are expecting all phones to have the same camera, and all of them should be at least as good as a $500 point and shoot, then get ready to pay big bucks. maybe a custom camera instalation is what you are looking for...I have a friend that may do something for you, but expect to pay at least $400for what would be at best a poor point and shoot attached to your phone.

as I stated in the past, OUR expectations can be sometimes way to high when we are buying a phone. something has to be compromised. do you want it to be a lower res screen? worse radios? lower build quality? it's going to be some of the above or all of them in order to have a better camera and still have the same price range. that's reality weather we like it or not. in otherwords...it's just a camera on a phone. need more? how about a good P&S or a cheap dSLR?

 

[VickMackey#AC]

I agree, there is some lag. but trust me, ALL cameras have this. go onto any camera review web site and you'll see that they test for this. the cameras that have the least amount of lag are dSLR cameras. next are the high end point and shoots. followed close by the lower end point and shoots that have far more shutter lag.....then we have cell phones. yes even the iphones have some lag.




while I agree with you, it is not reasonable for many companys to do just what you are asking. all phone manufactures have to make some parts cheaply or the price of our phones would be well beyond what you are seeing today.
so if we get the best radios, the best screen, the best software/widgets, the best camera, the best battery, and so on...JUST WHAT WOULD YOU PAY FOR THIS? $200 more then you are paying now? $300 more? $400 more? do you really want to buy a $900 phone?
and just when do we stop? should we now want a real zoom lens on our phones? because a good set of glass on a phone alone is going to skyrocket the price by at least $200.

as said, you can turn off a few features and get less lag. but if you are expecting all phones to have the same camera, and all of them should be at least as good as a $500 point and shoot, then get ready to pay big bucks. maybe a custom camera instalation is what you are looking for...I have a friend that may do something for you, but expect to pay at least $400for what would be at best a poor point and shoot attached to your phone.

as I stated in the past, OUR expectations can be sometimes way to high when we are buying a phone. something has to be compromised. do you want it to be a lower res screen? worse radios? lower build quality? it's going to be some of the above or all of them in order to have a better camera and still have the same price range. that's reality weather we like it or not. in otherwords...it's just a camera on a phone. need more? how about a good P&S or a cheap dSLR?

Stop it dude, seriously. everything isn't equal. Some things are better than others. The shutter speed on the EVO is bad, nothing you can say will change that and not every camera has lag this bad.

 

[CMILD561]

Does the auto enhance feature on the camera settings the same thing as when you go into a gallery click a picture and select effects and then click auto enhance? I have had the auto enhance option selected under camera settings this whole time and didn't realize it. I am guessing that that option adds some shutter lag. If they are the same I might as well turn it off and then go into the gallery and manually auto enhance the pic later on if need be.

 

[furiousgtz]

My ppc-6700 had a better camera than this crap. its hopeless.

 

[warpdrive]

Stop it dude, seriously. everything isn't equal. Some things are better than others. The shutter speed on the EVO is bad, nothing you can say will change that and not every camera has lag this bad.

while I know you ment shutter lag and not shutter speed, I once again agree with you. in fact I never disagreed with this. but yes, some phones have not only shutter lag this bad, but worse. thankfully, most phones have only a slight shutter lag.

 

[warpdrive]

Does the auto enhance feature on the camera settings the same thing as when you go into a gallery click a picture and select effects and then click auto enhance? I have had the auto enhance option selected under camera settings this whole time and didn't realize it. I am guessing that that option adds some shutter lag. If they are the same I might as well turn it off and then go into the gallery and manually auto enhance the pic later on if need be.

I have not done enough tests and I'm not fully sure just what the auto enhance option does.
I leave it turned on for right now, but this may change if I find out it doesn't do much at all. it does not enhance the photo like adding effects of something like you can do in the gallery.

 

[CarrieK]

Here is a picture of my cat in "mid-lick" if you will, taken in very low light.

 

[stephanie85]

I have to admit I was in the same boat with my panties all in a bunch acting like a sissy and complaining to all who didn't care that I had the worst camera on a phone ....I mean worse than my old star tac , and that has to be bad since the star tac didn't even have a camera ....but I used the tips in post 15 or 14 not sure and honestly now I feel comfortable saying this is the best camera I have used on a phone atleast my opinion...I had the evo 4g and epic 4g ...stock auto settings epic better ...a few tweaks that you don't have to change often and the 3d blows both out of the water atleast my opinion ....and don't complain you have to change settings and with the galaxy s2 you don't ....well look at it this way when your out and about and see a hot chick you'll more times than not spend more time changing the settings to try and silence the camera or coupling your hands around the speaker so she doesn't hear you setting up for your picture / lotion date later.

 

[CarrieK]

For our rooted friends out there, I found this camera hack that disables the shutter sound and includes some additional features. Hope it helps. I flashed and it works great

[TEAM XPOSED] [MOD] Remove shutter sound from 2.3.4 HTCCamera.apk - xda-developers

 

[warpdrive]

I have to admit I was in the same boat with my panties all in a bunch acting like a sissy and complaining to all who didn't care that I had the worst camera on a phone ....I mean worse than my old star tac , and that has to be bad since the star tac didn't even have a camera ....but I used the tips in post 15 or 14 not sure and honestly now I feel comfortable saying this is the best camera I have used on a phone atleast my opinion...I had the evo 4g and epic 4g ...stock auto settings epic better ...a few tweaks that you don't have to change often and the 3d blows both out of the water atleast my opinion ....and don't complain you have to change settings and with the galaxy s2 you don't ....well look at it this way when your out and about and see a hot chick you'll more times than not spend more time changing the settings to try and silence the camera or coupling your hands around the speaker so she doesn't hear you setting up for your picture / lotion date later.

haha, I thought this was so funny. you have a great sence of humor.

just so others know, even on the SGS2 from sprint, you'll have to remove the setting of the shutter sound as they plastered it with the noise.
it might be too late for me to now root my phone, but in the future, I can see myself rooting so I'll never have issues that are so minor like shutter sound again.

I'm also glad that my settings have helped. if anything, it has made you a better photographer. so now, no matter what phone you have in the future, you'll be able to fool around a bit with the settings and take far better shots then some guy with everything set to auto.

 

[CarrieK]

For the record, all of the pictures I posted were taken before I flashed the camera mod. If you follow the link and go to the last page you will see my thanks that was posted early this AM. Yes, I had insomnia again The reason I posted the pictures of my cat and my box car climbing friend is to demonstrate that you can get great action shots with no blur, and in the case of my cat, even in dark light.

Lol, Stephanie, I think you have a great sense of humor too! Kudos to you for giving the tweaks a try.