Do you think 512MB of ram is an issue?

[Preach2k]

No. The docking app is not always running from what I've seen. In fact, I've seen them have to launch it (meaning it was not launched before). The app is not killed when unplugged, though you can close it, either in app, or at the worst, manage applications in settings. It does not start on boot from what I've seen. That also does not explain where the other person saw that only 512mb would be available to the phone.
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When you look at the Launch and they removed it from the Notebook to the docking station it was still running it came up withe same screen that was on the Notebook.. So you are wrong it is always running in the background.

 

[E_man]

The ram itself is twice as fast per cycle, assuming it has the same Mhz. SDRAM means Single Data rate wheras DDR means Double Data Rate. That means it transmits info twice per cycle rather than just once. However, if you have a SDRAM chip at 400Mhz and a DDR chip at 280Mhz, the DDR chip is only about 40% faster. The clock cycles on these would be great, but I doubt those are released info.

Of course, even at the same cycle count, it will be nowhere near a linear jump in overall performance. Will be a nice one just the same.

When you look at the Launch and they removed it from the Notebook to the docking station it was still running it came up withe same screen that was on the Notebook.. So you are wrong it is always running in the background.

No. They launched the app, and it was running from then on. Here's an example of a similiar situation, one many people might be familiar with. I might run the web browser. Change apps, check gmail, and go back to the browser. Same things pop up in browser as before, it never closed. Is the browser always running? No. Is the browser running since I launched it? Yes. They launched the app on first running it, and it stayed running since. You can even see them do it in some videos. Not sure why people have a hard time with that. They launch the app like any other docking app, it just doesn't close on undocking.

Edit: Here's one video. Look at ~1:19. When he selects webtop, you can see it loading, the app was not running previous to this point. Skip ahead to 6:55 or so. Note as he puts the atrix in the dock, the app is already running because he just started it and takes a fraction of the time to launch because it's already in memory. There is no reason you cannot close this app, and there is no reason for it to be running if you don't launch it.

 

[Preach2k]

The ram itself is twice as fast per cycle, assuming it has the same Mhz. SDRAM means Single Data rate wheras DDR means Double Data Rate. That means it transmits info twice per cycle rather than just once. However, if you have a SDRAM chip at 400Mhz and a DDR chip at 280Mhz, the DDR chip is only about 40% faster. The clock cycles on these would be great, but I doubt those are released info.

Of course, even at the same cycle count, it will be nowhere near a linear jump in overall performance. Will be a nice one just the same.



No. They launched the app, and it was running from then on. Here's an example of a similiar situation, one many people might be familiar with. I might run the web browser. Change apps, check gmail, and go back to the browser. Same things pop up in browser as before, it never closed. Is the browser always running? No. Is the browser running since I launched it? Yes. They launched the app on first running it, and it stayed running since. You can even see them do it in some videos. Not sure why people have a hard time with that. They launch the app like any other docking app, it just doesn't close on undocking.

Edit: Here's one video. Look at ~1:19. When he selects webtop, you can see it loading, the app was not running previous to this point. Skip ahead to 6:55 or so. Note as he puts the atrix in the dock, the app is already running because he just started it and takes a fraction of the time to launch because it's already in memory. There is no reason you cannot close this app, and there is no reason for it to be running if you don't launch it.

Yes he does but listen to what he say's. He said that you just have to launch it. It will be instantaneous and continues running. So it continues running in the background.. Also I seen a video when they showed the Atrix when they said that it continues to run in the background. I think it was P.C now.. Anyway I guess we can agree to disagree. I do not want anything on AT&T anyway. AT&T is not very good here. Even if Verizon got the Atrix I will not get the Notepad anyway just the Docking Station and the Car Dock only. Just like what I am going to get with the Bionic.

 

[dinod]

Doesn't Verizon sometimes take some of the RAM away from us to use, and keep it exclusive for the OS to use? To ensure stability.

 

[E_man]

Yes he does but listen to what he say's. He said that you just have to launch it. It will be instantaneous and continues running. So it continues running in the background.. Also I seen a video when they showed the Atrix when they said that it continues to run in the background. I think it was P.C now.. Anyway I guess we can agree to disagree. I do not want anything on AT&T anyway. AT&T is not very good here. Even if Verizon got the Atrix I will not get the Notepad anyway just the Docking Station and the Car Dock only. Just like what I am going to get with the Bionic.

Your missing it entirely. It says open once you launch it, just like tons of other apps out there. There is nothing stopping you from closing it. It is the same as the web browser. Does your web browser boot at launch as stay running no matter what you do? No. You launch it, and it runs, even in the background, till you or android kills it. This webtop app does the same. He launches the app, it runs in the background after he manually launches it, and if he had chose to, he could have killed it. If you never launch it manually, it is not running in the background, just like if you don't manually launch your web browser, it is not running in the background. Look at the video, it is plain as day. Not trying to convinve anyone to get the Atrix over the Bionic, but spreading misinformation helps nobody.

 

[CSM-101]

Best response on the DDR RAM I could find was:

Answers.com - What is the difference between SDRAM and DDR RAM

looks like it will run close to twice as fast. Either way, if this was vanilla Android it would DEFINITELY be my next phone. I will have to wait and see with the MotoBlur.

Hopefully this Q&A from Answers.com will put and end to all this garbage about the Bionic not having enough ram. BTW, this will be my next phone

 

[Joelist]

The newer Blur is WAY less obnoxious than the old Blur - it is not really all that different than stock in my opinion.

 

[anon62607]

The ram itself is twice as fast per cycle, assuming it has the same Mhz. SDRAM means Single Data rate wheras DDR means Double Data Rate.

SDRAM means Synchronous DRAM. It could be single or double data rate and is referred to somewhat interchangeably.

 

[E_man]

SDRAM means Synchronous DRAM. It could be single or double data rate and is referred to somewhat interchangeably.

That's not how I heard it. Googling either gives a ton of hits though. Looks like you might be right though, thanks.

 

[Sploinkin]

Not trying to convinve anyone to get the Atrix over the Bionic, but spreading misinformation helps nobody.

Unless you want a better chance to be first in line on release day.

 

[popcity#AC]

unless you want a better chance to be first in line on release day.

lol +1

 

[akira6713]

I think a lot of people are missing the point that owning smartphones is almost as much a hobby to some peple as it is an experience. Sure 512 mb of RAM will be plenty to run a smooth OS experience, but dropping 600 dollars on the new and latest deviuce is just so meh when AT&T carriers are walking around with somehting that is twice as large.

I own the Droid X rooted running Gummyjar and overclocked to 1.3 Mhz. it is blazing fast, and my 3g constantly gets about 1.2 mbs download speeds. Needless to say it is quite adequate for many years to come. But I will not keep it because i am a geek. I like buying the latest device, its a hobby, a sport of the electronic kind. So people like me the 512 RAM is a huge letdown when the Atrix already has 1 gig. My reaction? Maybe wait untill the next device late in the year which i garantee will have 1 gig to compete with atrix before dropping the 600 on a new device.

The Accessories are awesome and a huge bonus. I bought the accessory pack with my droid x and it has become more complete of an experience as a high end device really.

 

[1088933]

512 mb will be plenty to run everything on. I think a large factor of this is that the Atrix has 1 gb, so people are starting to feel that they aren't getting the best of the best, and that it won't run perform better than other phones out there. The Atrix rose the bar with RAM, so we all now expect that or better.

 

[zero3187]

Well as long as it has more memory than the OG Droid then you should be fine lol. I have the OG Droid and you can't do too much on it at once without it slowing waaaaaaaaayyyyyyy down and/or freezing up. Also the fact that the bionic has like 8x or more the processing power of the Droid.

 

[Bushido Brown]

I hate to say I told you so, but...

 

[SailingMan]

Im just posing this question since this will be my first smart phone.

I like the fact that it is dual core. I keep on hearing bad things about moto blur. However the one thing that irks me the most is that it only has 512mb of ram while the AT&T counterpart has a full Gig of ram.

Do you think this is a major crutch? Do you think I would even notice? What do you think their reasoning is for the amount of ram that is on par for phones that came out last summer?

The AT&T uses the other 512mb for the netbook it's attached to. 512 should be plenty.

 

[moosc]

Nope it is split 512 for phone & the other 512 will be add for desk tip gadget

512 mb will be plenty to run everything on. I think a large factor of this is that the Atrix has 1 gb, so people are starting to feel that they aren't getting the best of the best, and that it won't run perform better than other phones out there. The Atrix rose the bar with RAM, so we all now expect that or better.

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[E_man]

The AT&T uses the other 512mb for the netbook it's attached to. 512 should be plenty.

Nope it is split 512 for phone & the other 512 will be add for desk tip gadget



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As has been stated before, before you go quoting things like this with such assurance, have a source. I'd love to see it.

 

[Hand_O_Death]

I have not heard that the Atrix only uses 512 as a phone and saves the other for it's webtop thing. Where did you find this out?

 

[CSM-101]

Motorola Droid Bionic Has ?Only? 512MB RAM ? Is It An Isue ?

Hopefully this will put an end to all the RAM talk, enjoy.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&q=ht...Tmy3OI&usg=AFQjCNHllhc7f3YZdvN3D75PnwrhRjHGYA