Does Verizon just suck?

[PhiPsi32]

That's the way it should be.

 

[legend221]

Point is Tmobile subscribers from that specific time frame are in a bad situation due to Experian. If I were the company I would drop them from running my credit related transactions.

..Sent from an XDA modified LG G4 on Verizon..

 

[legend221]

Actually T-Mobile didn't release the data, Experian did. Also don't think that was just T-Mobile customers or just cell phone customers. T-Mobile is just good at notifying their customers as soon as they were told about the breach.

Comes out to the same thing since Tmobile relies on Experian to work on personal data for the company. It's the age we live in unfortunately, guys don't rob stores anymore for the most part they hack sites and sell their information. It's just bad for everyone.

..Sent from an XDA modified LG G4 on Verizon..

 

[PhiPsi32]

Yeah, they still rob stores a lot . . . AT&T stores were popular when they had the iPhone exclusive.

 

[Kelly Kearns]

Comes out to the same thing since Tmobile relies on Experian to work on personal data for the company. It's the age we live in unfortunately, guys don't rob stores anymore for the most part they hack sites and sell their information. It's just bad for everyone.

..Sent from an XDA modified LG G4 on Verizon..

Everyone relies on Experian. They are. The larger credit reporting agency in this country. Not the same thing at all. Experian was hacked, that has nothing to do with TMO as a carrier, TMO wasn't hacked.

 

[recDNA]

Do they have the time to steal millions of identities or is this a threat to our government and economy from some foreign entity?

 

[Kelly Kearns]

Does who have time? Groups that hack do this all the time.

 

[acraftylady]

Verizon has always been awesome as far as I'm concerned. Best customer service I ever experience. Always an American that can understand what your saying and doesn't seem to just repeat what you say while they find the response from a script. Also, in my experience and travels, the network connectivity is far above any other provider, always being connected when traveling the highways. Yes they are a little pricey, but their fees have definitely come down over the years. You could always sign up online for a prepaid T Mobile account to use the phone. As long as you stay in a city, it will probably work great. Tmo just sucks if you go on a trip...almost no 4g/lte connectivity out on the road.

As to your specific problem, a lot of people activate unlocked phones on Verizon, like all of the Nexus owners. Maybe the unlocked G4 is not allowed for some reason. Have you tried just sticking your existing phones Verizon SIM card (with adapter if it's a different sized card) into the phone and booting it up?

I have to agree with you, have the same Verizon experience. Got my first smart phone about 3yrs ago switching from a basic talk and text phone on t-mobile prepaid. $50 a month for unlimited talk text and data with no cap. I was getting only 3g where ever I traveled and since I was new to smart phones I had no clue but most of the time on 3g pages wouldn't load and I couldn't play my games in the car that needed a connection. The last straw was suddenly my jackpot party casino app that needs internet to play wouldn't work over 3g or 4g only wifi so I couldn't play it in the car. When to several T-Mobile stores and no one could figure it out. Stuck with it for a year then switched back to Verizon and I was getting 4g all the places I wasn't with T-Mobile and my jack pot party app connected fine over 4g with Verizon. Mary

 

[recDNA]

Does who have time? Groups that hack do this all the time.

OK you have 3 million victims. Who has time to apply for 3 million new credit cards or invade 3 million bank accounts etc.? Each identity takes some time to steal and make money from. A million names would take a long time to go through even for a large group.

I suspect the goal on this wide scale an attack may be more nefarious - a threat to take down the entire US economy by making credit a thing of the past. Banks go bust. Economy goes bust. If I wanted to get rich I would rather hack on a smaller scale so as not to attract attention. Admittedly I'm not a denizen of the dark web nor do I know its ways but I doubt N. Korea was the first nor the last to stage an internet attack on the US.

 

[gone down south]

Tin foil hat much?

Those identities are sold online at a couple for a buck. The original hacker walks away with half mil or so in untraceable cash, the buyers work on a small scale and exploit each one as much as they can.

After every major or minor hack, researchers find the identities up for sale within days.

 

[Suntan]

Right, so nobody actually has any substantive proof that the VZW version of the G4 is in any way different from all the other variants... There's your answer OP.

 

[Greygeek]

Verizon (VZ) may be the only alternative in some more remote areas, but after 18 years of VZ price increases and mediocre customer support, I moved my family plan to T-Mobile and new LG G4 phones (except daughter's 6 month old iPhone6). In my first five months, I can't begin to say how happy I've been with that decision.

I've driven from Seattle to Chicago - very few coverage issues (using WAZE and streaming music most of the way). Yeah, some areas only 3G, but, that was fast enough to do what I wanted to do.

I've traveled with my phone in Canada, UK, Netherlands, Germany, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary and France. Had unlimited data, texting and phone coverage in all as part of my normal T-Mobile service. (would've cost me over $20/month/line extra on Verizon for equivalent - not to mention the higher plan cost to begin with). And WiFi calling is part of our T-Mobile plan ($6/month per line extra on VZ). WiFi calling is huge for my daughter who is studying abroad. She can call the US for free from any WiFi connection. (vs $1.99 per minute on a VZ phone)

The LG G4 on T-Mobile has been a wonderful device for voice, data and camera. T-Mobile 4G in the USA is faster than Verizons. And in New York city, my T-Mobile phone worked inside buildings where my Samsung GS3 on Verizon never worked. Also, at my home on a hill east of Seattle, Verizon coverage was erratic. Before spending $250 on a VZ Network Extender, any phone call over a few minutes would drop. Not so with T-Mobile. And of course, if I use WiFi calling, there's no coverage issue at all. (AT&T has never worked inside my home)

The LG G4 camera is top notch. The full manual mode permits me to get low light / night shots that would be impossible otherwise. I can get good photos at jazz clubs etc. without a flash. Great night shots of beautiful European cities? No problem. And the 16 megapixel resolution is excellent for panoramic shots.

On an overnight train from Prague to Budapest, I was able to bring up Google Maps from inside my sleeper car to follow our track, and was texting my wife back in the USA. From the middle of nowhere in Slovakia, inside a metal railroad car! So to say that I'm impressed with my LG G4 and T-Mobile service is an understatement. The LG G4 battery life was good, but heavy use of Google Maps to navigate will often mean a mid-afternoon quick charge is needed. With a Qualcom certified fast charger, 20 minute charge makes heavy use all day a sure thing.

Does Verizon suck? No. IF you are willing to pay their high price for service, and willing to put up with mediocre customer service. In my case, T-Mobile is a much better value with (so far) no apparent downside on coverage. (in fact, for international travel, I've gained a lot of functionality for a much lower cost than when we were on Verizon).

 

[jlost]

The short answer is, yes . . . Verizon just sucks.

Well that's subjective. They are expensive but I have better customer service these days (they must have trained their workers a little more). I dropped my phone on vacation and got a working one the next day. Plus I usually will have 4g service everywhere. You pay what you get.

 

[Kelly Kearns]

I pay very little for TMO and have great service and the best customer service I have ever had. I had TMO years ago and the customer service wasn't the same as it is now, but they are doing things differently at TMO now.

$140 a month for 5 lines and that is 10 gb of LTE rollover data per line and unlimited slower data.

 

[jlost]

I pay very little for TMO and have great service and the best customer service I have ever had. I had TMO years ago and the customer service wasn't the same as it is now, but they are doing things differently at TMO now.

$140 a month for 5 lines and that is 10 gb of LTE rollover data per line and unlimited slower data.

You must live in a bigger city to have service with tmo. When people who come to fix something at my house aka Dish Network, plumber, electrician, if they have tmo they will tell me service sucks. I've never met someone that said service didn't suck.

 

[Kelly Kearns]

You must live in a bigger city to have service with tmo. When people who come to fix something at my house aka Dish Network, plumber, electrician, if they have tmo they will tell me service sucks. I've never met someone that said service didn't suck.

Depends on where you are. TMO was the first biggest carrier in the Southern and Southeastern US. They were originally PowerTel. The outlying areas here used to only have TMO service.

 

[jlost]

That makes sense.

 

[Almeuit]

You must live in a bigger city to have service with tmo. When people who come to fix something at my house aka Dish Network, plumber, electrician, if they have tmo they will tell me service sucks. I've never met someone that said service didn't suck.

As Kelly said (up a few posts) it just depends on the area really. I live in Jacksonville and we have LTE all over even though we are super spread out. I can even drive from Jacksonville to Orlando and have LTE majority of the time (there is a patch where I hit HSPA for about 20 minutes then back to LTE the rest of the time).

 

[Lawrence Cushing]

YES, YES, YES.

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[cache11]

I bought an international unlocked LG G4 because I know Verizon G4s are missing some features.

Well turns out Verizon won't activate pretty much any unlocked phone.

So I have two questions:

1. Is the LG G4 verizon version even worth it? I notice a lot of you have sprint or at&t or t mobile.

2. Should I consider leaving verizon if i want "pure" forms of cell phones. I am waiting on a couple contracts to expire. I.E. Can i used unlocked phone on other carriers or will they be just like verizon?

I despise Verizon and was with them for about a year. I had a Note 4 with them and got the itch to buy a Blackberry Classic "for cheap" thinking I could just swap my SIM back and forth. Turns out that I had to call them each time I wanted to change phones and that was a 20 to 30 minute process. Combine that with pitiful signal at my house in metro Atlanta of all places where all of the other carriers are below -80dbm and I was done with big red. I switched back to Tmobile and swap my SIM between a G4 and a Nexus 6 and I have a half dozen older phones I can drop my SIM in without having to call any. And god help you if you buy a non-branded Verizon phone like you because super amazing best carrier in the whole wide world and then some could give a damn...... Oh yeah, did I mention I consistently get over 100Mbps with T-Mobile at my house?

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