EVO lover who likes Apple?

I have used many Apple products and liked them a lot. I am tempted to get an iPad as there are a lot of uses I could find for one.

I'd prefer an Android tablet, if there were a good one available with Froyo.

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I'm an EVO owner and an Apple product user. I've had 3 Macs and 4 iPods. I've been using Macs since 1997 however I'm far from a fanboy as I understand that Apple products have their cons along with the pros. I just prefer using Macs over Windows or any other OS. The reason I don't have an iPhone is because I'm also a Sprint users since 2001. It works for me and I don't plan on switching. But since getting my EVO I would definitely have to think about it if the iPhone became available on Sprint. I'm a very big fan of Android now. :-D
 
I have an iMac and I feel it is superior to a pc. No spam, popups, or viruses since I bought it in 06. Gorgeous screen that is still fast. You will pay a premium for their products, which I know are overpriced. But they do make a fine product. I'm afraid they are getting too big for their britches. They are becoming everything they hated about Microsoft just a few years ago.
 
OS X is not responsible for spam/popups, and viruses do exist. They are just a minor threat currently because no one bothers to develop viruses for it. OS X is actually rather insecure, being one of the first OSes cracked wide open every year at DEFCON.
 
Apple makes very nice stuff, and the touch is very nice but I honestly prefer the Zune and Zune software over itunes. I have two ipads in my house. I would love to replace my desktop with a Mac Mini, they are nice, small and quiet. I do not need a powerful desktop and I don't play computer games.
 
And as Apple becomes more and more popular, there will be more viruses etc targeted at OSX
 
The whole viruses/pop up stuff is bogus...
My PC runs well. I have not had a virus on this laptop since I got it last year. Pop ups? It's not 20th century. I don't think anyone gets those.

And it's fast. So I'm pleased.
It's all about finding the right programs. For example, optimized browsers like Maxthon 3 and Google Chrome are the way to go.
I have Maxthon 3 and it starts up in less than a split second.
 
OS X is not responsible for spam/popups, and viruses do exist. They are just a minor threat currently because no one bothers to develop viruses for it. OS X is actually rather insecure, being one of the first OSes cracked wide open every year at DEFCON.

+1 I was going to mention that! MAC OS is actually less secure than Windows from a technical point of view. The hackers themselves say it. Windows has a much larger base so is concentrated on more therefore you hear a lot more of the problems on it. The bad news is it is true. The good news is because of this, Windows fixes and patches the security a lot more and is making Windows better every day that way. It is far from perfect mind you but they do address problems. MAC OS is kind of stagnant this way. I also think Windows 7 (64bit) is as good as OS X stability wise. I support PC’s for a living and Windows 7 has been great! I have very few problems with it. Now MS problems are another story :)

I also do not hate Apple products overall. I own an 5g 80GB Ipod and 32GB iPod touch. I like the fact that OSX is based on Unix but I just cannot stand the one button mouse interface. Yes you can get other mice to work with two+ buttons but the main OS simply does not take advantage of it like Windows does. I also HATE having to go to the top of my screen simply to access a menu! I like having each application have its own menu right there! There are a lot of little things that just bug me when using a MAC but that is all personal preference. I do not like Apple itself, I think they are draconian and closed. In some ways that is a strength but in other ways that is a hindrance. MAC hardware costs so much more and is so closed with Apple being the only company in charge of everything. No competition, no opinions or options available for the end user. I personally hate that. I want to be able to buy whatever hardware I like. I like having various companies that make various laptops with various types of keyboards, cases, buttons, batteries and features etc… I like freedom and choice and that is why I love Android so much.

When you go Mac, it is what it is and it is no more!
 
How is it not fair?? $1000 to $500. Hell if anything it further proves my point. Why would I spend $1000 on a much smaller and less capable laptop when I can spend $500 and get a laptop with a larger and better screen with mostly better specs?? At half the price too. I'm not saying the MacBook isn't good. It's REALLY good. I actually like it. My point from the beginning is while Apple does have great devices, their prices are far from justified. Especially when you compare specs. Are the Apple products made with really good quality? Of course. But their not made in a factory filled with Jesus clones putting them together by hand.

LOl I get what your saying dude... You did kinda prove his point when u said its not a fair comparison lol... That was his whole point... That you can get something as good or better for 50% less.. Apple has nice products but their prices are crazy.. For example Ipads are nice Ill give it to them, but I could never see myself paying 500.00 dollars for one when I can get his laptop mentioned above for 500.00.. Its basically a big IPhone.. But to each his own.. Im not hating on anyone that has one..
 
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I am not a huge apple fan. Although for gaming I would consider buying my 7 year old the ipad. He loves playing the games on it at the mall. But for 500 i dont think it will happen any time soon.

My wife is getting a free macbook 13 inch from her job this summer. So i will put the OS through its paces and see what makes it so special. i have always been a windows user. I have a really hard time paying double for a computer with less specs because it runs OSX. Especially when i am very happy with windows 7. I dont see the advantage of switching.

I think what annoys people are the apple fanboys. They justify with fools logic the price of apple products. They actually believe they have a superior device because they paid more for it. When you see them in a public place using a macbook it seems like they have a certain personality type. A sort of tech snobbish attitude. Very closed personality types.

If i was to spend 1k on a laptop computer it better have a 17ich true HD screen and enough memory (ram and HD) that i wont have to upgrade either for a long long time. I am not as concerned with battery life since i use my laptop on my couch only.

I will say that apple does a decent job hardware wise for their products. But not good enough for me to spend double the price.

Also one thing i am wondering that im sure current mac users could help me with...whenever i have played with a mac computer i have never been able to figure out how to make the browser full screen. It seems like its locked in skinny mode in the center of the screen. Is this really locked like that or is their a setting to make the browser full screen?
 
Only apple product I own is a Nano 2nd gen. I refuse to buy a new one until the put bluetooth in it.
 
It's really a pick your poison kind of thing. Both have their strengths and there are certainly things that Apple does better than anyone. When I compared my EVO 4 to a friend's Iphone 4 my first thought was - better screen, no question, better camera BY FAR (not even close I'm afraid and I'm an amateur photographer so understand a bit more about these things than most) However, the email synch sucks compared to using gmail and I got to witness a dropped call within 2 minutes. Yes, he's lefthanded.

I have an old ipod nano 2g that I still like although I HATE (HATE!!!) Itunes. However using the ipod to navigate through music is still better than anything else I've seen.

The nice thing is this: having 2 big players in the mobile market is good for everyone. We want competition. The iphone/ipad is driving android and chromium and once Microsoft gets their **** together we'll hopefully have a 3 way race. This is all good for us.
 
I hate Itunes. It's a resource hog, needs a UI improvement, and slows everything down when it opens.

That being said I don't hate Apple. I think they run a good business and the products are well made. I wouldn't personally pay money for any of it, though, because I will do my research and find a better priced (and spec'd) windows machine. I've been using my brothers 13" macbook pro (unibody) for 6 months while he was deployed. Never once did I have a problem (except for Flash, which is adobe's fault, since the update a few weeks ago it's been fine) with anything. The OS is solid, the screen is awesome, and the build quality is amazing.

But I just bought a new laptop 3 weeks ago and I got an Alienware M11x-R2. Why? Because for me it was better. I coulda got a macbook pro, but the Alienware has a better GPU and good battery life.

I used Ipods for years, then I discovered Zune pass. I now have 2 zune HD's in my house and we are loving it.

I'm not saying I wouldn't go back to Ipods, but unless they fix itunes and have an all you can eat subscription I'm sticking with what I got.

Also, I personally have nothing against Iphones but they aren't for me.
 
Just because Steve Jobs and Sergey Brin are in a lover's quarrel, doesn't mean the rest of the world needs to consider Google products and Apple products mutually exclusive (even *gasp* Microsoft products. Each phone supports the EAS standard).

In fact, every machead I know uses Gmail, Youtube, Google search, etc, and wishes they have GV native on their phone.

It's really unfortunate to the consumer that the respective companies would engage in mutually exclusive branding/product lineup. Then again, Apple wants to rule the world by peddling its hardware along with the software--that really is the crux of the problem.

A price-to-price and feature-to-feature comparison is not possible for Mac products. For those products, the price of the software is fully factored in. For Microsoft products, the enterprise market subsidizes the consumer market. Let's face it, Active Sync, Windows 7 Home Edition/Starter Edition, Microsoft Office Student/Home edition are NOT money makers and are NOT sustainable without the enterprise revenue subsidizing the development of the core product. For Macs, they have to charge way more for their products because development of their slick UI... well is funded through the revenue generated in the consumer unit sale. So of course... they care more about UI and consumer "feel goodness"... because well that's their core revenue base. That being said, Apple stores are the most profitable pieces of real estate on the planet bar none. =)
 
I hate Itunes. It's a resource hog, needs a UI improvement, and slows everything down when it opens.

It's pretty obvious you haven't used iTunes in awhile. It's not near the resource hog it used to be and opens quite quickly. Also, UI improvements? Show me software that does what iTunes does that's better in either navigation or otherwise?

**I'm not a fanboy as I noted earlier, but that doesn't mean I won't call out b.s. when I see it**
 
It's pretty obvious you haven't used iTunes in awhile. It's not near the resource hog it used to be and opens quite quickly. Also, UI improvements? Show me software that does what iTunes does that's better in either navigation or otherwise?

**I'm not a fanboy as I noted earlier, but that doesn't mean I won't call out b.s. when I see it**

The Zune player is quite nice.
 
Do what I do

LOl I get what your saying dude... You did kinda prove his point when u said its not a fair comparison lol... That was his whole point... That you can get something as good or better for 50% less.. Apple has nice products but their prices are crazy.. For example Ipads are nice Ill give it to them, but I could never see myself paying 500.00 dollars for one when I can get his laptop mentioned above for 500.00.. Its basically a big IPhone.. But to each his own.. Im not hating on anyone that has one..


I have a Dell netbook hackintosh dual boot with Win XP and OS 10.6 and A dell laptop triple boot with Ubuntu, Win XP and OSX 10.6. Both computers work really really well on all platforms. I have the choice of platform I want to use at the click of a mouse and I didn't pay Steve Jobs a gazillion dollars :-) Oh I forgot to mention I formated the hard drive so that my documents folder is FAT 32 and Accessible from all platforms. So if I am in windows the folder docs are windows native. If I am in Ubuntu or OSX I use open office so no matter what platform I am running all of my docs are right there, I love it.

And as far as the iPad I am waiting for the inevitable Android Tablets to come out :-)
 
On Windows, Itunes does suck.
It's much better on a Mac... I don't have one, but I've seen it open and work around on friend's macbooks.
 

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