Those are pictures they taken directly from the phone so you can tell how good (or bad ) the camera is
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Google Nexus 6 Preorder Info & Reviews
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Those are pictures they taken directly from the phone so you can tell how good (or bad ) the camera is
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Re: Ars Technica: Nexus 6 Review - The “premium” price still comes with compromises
Interesting, thanks for making me aware of this. The IMX240 has the "stacked" Exmor RS technology, which is considered more advanced by Sony. Most interestingly, the IMX135 used in the 2014 Moto X is also Exmor RS, unlike the older generation Exmor R tech used for the IMX214 in the Nexus 6 (source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exmor). This would explain why the Nexus 6 photos are sub par. I've been very happy with the performance of my Moto X, the only issues being colors and AF (not the sensors fault). I would definitely not want to downgrade by moving to the Nexus 6.
Also, if I'm understanding all this correctly, the IMX240 is essentially a bigger version of the IMX135, with more pixels as well as larger cell size. So it should be an overall better sensor. And the IMX220 used in the Z3&Turbo is even bigger than the IMX240, and also with RS tech
The 214 and 135 on the other hand have the same dimensions and resolution, so it seems clear that the ranking is this:
IMX220 (Z3,Turbo) > IMX240 (Note4) > IMX135 (Moto X) > IMX214 (Nexus 6)
Interesting, thanks for making me aware of this. The IMX240 has the "stacked" Exmor RS technology, which is considered more advanced by Sony. Most interestingly, the IMX135 used in the 2014 Moto X is also Exmor RS, unlike the older generation Exmor R tech used for the IMX214 in the Nexus 6 (source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exmor). This would explain why the Nexus 6 photos are sub par. I've been very happy with the performance of my Moto X, the only issues being colors and AF (not the sensors fault). I would definitely not want to downgrade by moving to the Nexus 6.
Also, if I'm understanding all this correctly, the IMX240 is essentially a bigger version of the IMX135, with more pixels as well as larger cell size. So it should be an overall better sensor. And the IMX220 used in the Z3&Turbo is even bigger than the IMX240, and also with RS tech
The 214 and 135 on the other hand have the same dimensions and resolution, so it seems clear that the ranking is this:
IMX220 (Z3,Turbo) > IMX240 (Note4) > IMX135 (Moto X) > IMX214 (Nexus 6)
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Re: It's a typical Nexus phone, full of compromises
I would definately get it. This is the phone I have wanted. A Motorola phone, phablet sized, fastest updates of any other android phone. Moto's build quality and radios are top notch and can't be beat. Love the size. Pure Google so I am not locked to one carrier. I don't worry about battery as I have wireless chargers around me, the screen looks awesome, the camera takes great photos from what my eyes have seen. Not worried about this phone at all
I would definately get it. This is the phone I have wanted. A Motorola phone, phablet sized, fastest updates of any other android phone. Moto's build quality and radios are top notch and can't be beat. Love the size. Pure Google so I am not locked to one carrier. I don't worry about battery as I have wireless chargers around me, the screen looks awesome, the camera takes great photos from what my eyes have seen. Not worried about this phone at all
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Re: Anybody else disappointed with screen battery life and camera ?
It had sure better be better than Nexus 5…. Its like 300 bucks more! (maybe a little less but i like exaggerating becuz it helps, "get my point across!" : ) Also, I think its a tad over-rated. I mean, is it the BEST Nexus yet? Of course. But our Note 4 is the BEST Note yet.
Personally, from where it stands now and all I have seen surrounding this device, (from pathetic launch, demand, sales, cost etc) gotta begin to question Google’s ethics…I mean I had a heart with One+1 (still think that’s the dumbest name tho : ) , but come on, THIS is by far, not Google’s first rodeo…
These days it just seems they care less & less about end user’s ordering frustration, privacy, and now “user’s pocketbook”…
Guess its just a matter of time before we are all “scroogled by google” ….:-$ BTC
It had sure better be better than Nexus 5…. Its like 300 bucks more! (maybe a little less but i like exaggerating becuz it helps, "get my point across!" : ) Also, I think its a tad over-rated. I mean, is it the BEST Nexus yet? Of course. But our Note 4 is the BEST Note yet.
Personally, from where it stands now and all I have seen surrounding this device, (from pathetic launch, demand, sales, cost etc) gotta begin to question Google’s ethics…I mean I had a heart with One+1 (still think that’s the dumbest name tho : ) , but come on, THIS is by far, not Google’s first rodeo…
These days it just seems they care less & less about end user’s ordering frustration, privacy, and now “user’s pocketbook”…
Guess its just a matter of time before we are all “scroogled by google” ….:-$ BTC
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Re: Anybody else disappointed with screen battery life and camera ?
Should have stuck with LG and used the G3 as the base to work off.
Should have stuck with LG and used the G3 as the base to work off.
I get that. And for my preferences and tastes, they are great looking pics. So I will be more than satisfied with this camera if that is how they look. Again, they are not using the latest software on this device yet.
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Re: It's a typical Nexus phone, full of compromises
If you look around the other Android sites, Phil is the lone detractor. I like Android Central, it was one of the first sites I found when I started getting into Android. But honestly there are other sites whose opinions I trust and value more. regardless I've ordered mine from Motorola and I'm sure I'll love it like I did the N4 and 5 before it.
If you look around the other Android sites, Phil is the lone detractor. I like Android Central, it was one of the first sites I found when I started getting into Android. But honestly there are other sites whose opinions I trust and value more. regardless I've ordered mine from Motorola and I'm sure I'll love it like I did the N4 and 5 before it.
Software doesn't matter much....not going to change the camera picture quality enough to make people change their minds ...
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Re: It's a typical Nexus phone, full of compromises
Why not try the device for yourself to see how things are? Who cares if some random dude you never met hated it or liked it? Try the device yourself and return it if it doesn't meet your expectations.
Why not try the device for yourself to see how things are? Who cares if some random dude you never met hated it or liked it? Try the device yourself and return it if it doesn't meet your expectations.
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Re: It's a typical Nexus phone, full of compromises
That was my only concern from the reviews I've read. Seeing that makes me less concerned that it's just slow memory.
Either way, I'll be getting the phone next week to make my own decision.
But it means that it's possible to fix with software optimization and that it's just not an issue with sub par memory hardware.
That was my only concern from the reviews I've read. Seeing that makes me less concerned that it's just slow memory.
Either way, I'll be getting the phone next week to make my own decision.
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Re: It's a typical Nexus phone, full of compromises
I will try the phone as soon as its on display in stores. As it is I have a to wait for Verizon to carry it, since I plan to buy it on contract. I can understand how my views are seen as too negative, but there's nothing wrong with high expectations, and I'm disappointed like many others that Google didn't choose the highest quality components.
I will try the phone as soon as its on display in stores. As it is I have a to wait for Verizon to carry it, since I plan to buy it on contract. I can understand how my views are seen as too negative, but there's nothing wrong with high expectations, and I'm disappointed like many others that Google didn't choose the highest quality components.
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Re: It's a typical Nexus phone, full of compromises
I read most of the current reviews, both at Android-specific and general tech websites, and while I'm a bit put off, especially by the size, I'm willing to give the phone a chance. I can always return it or sell it, and stick with my current 2013 Moto X if necessary.
I read most of the current reviews, both at Android-specific and general tech websites, and while I'm a bit put off, especially by the size, I'm willing to give the phone a chance. I can always return it or sell it, and stick with my current 2013 Moto X if necessary.
Re: It's a typical Nexus phone, full of compromises
Things like battery life and how the screen looks are subjective though. I wouldn't worry too much about those things until you have used the device yourself. As far as these items from your list:
- doesn't have full set of features from Moto Assist, lacks hw sensors
- no sd card, no removable battery
I would never expect Google to have included Moto's software/hardware features on their device. That's me though. No sd card and no removal battery were pretty much a given. The nexus program did away with those a few generations ago. I prefer expandable storage and user replaceable batteries, but I don't expect them from the nexus line.
Things like battery life and how the screen looks are subjective though. I wouldn't worry too much about those things until you have used the device yourself. As far as these items from your list:
- doesn't have full set of features from Moto Assist, lacks hw sensors
- no sd card, no removable battery
I would never expect Google to have included Moto's software/hardware features on their device. That's me though. No sd card and no removal battery were pretty much a given. The nexus program did away with those a few generations ago. I prefer expandable storage and user replaceable batteries, but I don't expect them from the nexus line.
Re: It's a typical Nexus phone, full of compromises
It seems to me that the general consensus of reviews, outside of those articles that rely heavily on benchmarks, has been pretty positive about the phone. The only real scathing one was Ars Technica, and I guess Phil was pretty lukewarm about it from his review.
I've seen plenty of positives from a lot of other blogs and tech sites on some of the points such as display, battery, camera, etc. I'm still quite a bit excited about it as it seems to be an overall improvement over the Nexus 5. Of course I'll make my own determination once I have it in my hands.
So if it weren't a 6 inch phone, then what would it be? That's a rather major feature to not consider in your hypothetical.
It seems to me that the general consensus of reviews, outside of those articles that rely heavily on benchmarks, has been pretty positive about the phone. The only real scathing one was Ars Technica, and I guess Phil was pretty lukewarm about it from his review.
I've seen plenty of positives from a lot of other blogs and tech sites on some of the points such as display, battery, camera, etc. I'm still quite a bit excited about it as it seems to be an overall improvement over the Nexus 5. Of course I'll make my own determination once I have it in my hands.
So if it weren't a 6 inch phone, then what would it be? That's a rather major feature to not consider in your hypothetical.
I believe that software can improve the quality of pictures. Besides, what really matters is the most important review you will see. The one done by you for you on this device if that is the one you want. It does not matter to me what all of these other people say in their reviews. It only matters what I see in my own personal review of the phone when I get it.
I'm not paying $700 including taxes and shipping to do my own ...and no amount of software will help the nexus 6 camera ....
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I'm not surprised at this phone at all, to be honest. I think Google had an amazing idea with Lollipop, but literally had zero idea how to showcase it. I'm sure there's going to be a lot of people who will love this phone and could care less about it's shortcomings, but I'm of the mindset that this version of the Nexus was supposed to be the standard bearer because they weren't limiting it dollar-wise. The price has gone up significantly because they wanted it to be as premium as possible, but that also means higher expectations. That's where the Nexus 6 falls painfully short.
I've always been optimistic when it comes to the Nexus line. Every time there was a question about an issue it had the year prior, my response was always "They'll fix it this year". For whatever reason, I lost that optimism after the Nexus 5. So when I'm seeing the camera stutter as it does when using HDR+ on the Nexus 5 and taking a few seconds to process, I wasn't surprised this year. When I'm seeing lower than expected battery life results (albeit still not awful by any means), I wasn't surprised. When there's a potential issue with NAND plaguing this device, I wasn't surprised. It's become a given that Google and their manufacturer of choice for each device leaves something(s) out. It was tolerable before given the low price tag. Now it's just unacceptable.
Even the launch, a sore spot with a lot of us from last year, didn't get better; it got worse somehow. I know the allure of Nexus is hard to ignore, but so are the facts. This Nexus is barely better than it's predecessor and is lagging behind more recent offerings (like the Note 4, Moto X, Droid Turbo, etc). It still may be the phone of choice for a lot of people and they'll probably love it, but Google doesn't have me drinking the kool aid anymore. Just because it says Nexus on the back doesn't mean its special anymore. Its just another big phone that unfortunately still has a lot of compromises and isn't bailed out by a low price tag. Maybe next year.
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I'm not surprised at this phone at all, to be honest. I think Google had an amazing idea with Lollipop, but literally had zero idea how to showcase it. I'm sure there's going to be a lot of people who will love this phone and could care less about it's shortcomings, but I'm of the mindset that this version of the Nexus was supposed to be the standard bearer because they weren't limiting it dollar-wise. The price has gone up significantly because they wanted it to be as premium as possible, but that also means higher expectations. That's where the Nexus 6 falls painfully short.
I've always been optimistic when it comes to the Nexus line. Every time there was a question about an issue it had the year prior, my response was always "They'll fix it this year". For whatever reason, I lost that optimism after the Nexus 5. So when I'm seeing the camera stutter as it does when using HDR+ on the Nexus 5 and taking a few seconds to process, I wasn't surprised this year. When I'm seeing lower than expected battery life results (albeit still not awful by any means), I wasn't surprised. When there's a potential issue with NAND plaguing this device, I wasn't surprised. It's become a given that Google and their manufacturer of choice for each device leaves something(s) out. It was tolerable before given the low price tag. Now it's just unacceptable.
Even the launch, a sore spot with a lot of us from last year, didn't get better; it got worse somehow. I know the allure of Nexus is hard to ignore, but so are the facts. This Nexus is barely better than it's predecessor and is lagging behind more recent offerings (like the Note 4, Moto X, Droid Turbo, etc). It still may be the phone of choice for a lot of people and they'll probably love it, but Google doesn't have me drinking the kool aid anymore. Just because it says Nexus on the back doesn't mean its special anymore. Its just another big phone that unfortunately still has a lot of compromises and isn't bailed out by a low price tag. Maybe next year.
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Re: It's a typical Nexus phone, full of compromises
What's funny is you should ask that same questions to the phones you're comparing. I see nothing wrong with typical and compromise. The iPhone been that way for years. Buy the phones that fits your needs, every phone provides its own unique touch and feel. Enjoy.
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What's funny is you should ask that same questions to the phones you're comparing. I see nothing wrong with typical and compromise. The iPhone been that way for years. Buy the phones that fits your needs, every phone provides its own unique touch and feel. Enjoy.
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