Google selling pixel phones

[cardboard60]

They had the 128gb option if you wanted, the battery at that time only other high end phones offering 4000mah was note 9 and Huawei p20 so it was decent battery size ,ram being 4 still ran really good and they had updates to address the ram memory issue like any other manufacturer who get problem or bugs out the gate with their phones.

Yeah at how much more.
No bigger battery
Still no SD card.
Not worth the extra money.
Google wants to compete with Samsung.
How.
They offer little in the hardware Dept.

My wife never had a issue with her unlocked Note 9.

 

[Itsa_Me_Mario]

Wasn't there and article last week starting that they have the 3rd highest mobile shares Samsung being first followed by apple then Google. Although Google is significantly lower than the other 2 still kind of cool to be I third. Hopefully Google lands a home run with the pixel 4's. I love my 3 xl even with the notch although I do wish it had a skinnier notch.

For US sales only, Google passed LG and Moto in the flagship space. Overall device sales both companies are still ahead because they have midrange and budget devices that vastly outsell their flagships.

 

[Itsa_Me_Mario]

Why are we talking about SD cards? Is this 2012?

2nd verse, same as the 1st and then the chorus... SD cards are still slower, less secure and less stable. That hasn't changed. They also do not work well with Android because Android treats them as if they're less secure, slower and less stable... because they are. Adopted storage didn't solve that, it just confused even more consumers.

 

[eric002]

Yeah at how much more.
No bigger battery
Still no SD card.
Not worth the extra money.
Google wants to compete with Samsung.
How.
They offer little in the hardware Dept.

All righty, well I'm sure the note 9 has a slightly better camera than my Galaxy s8 did. Are you coming with my 3450 MAH battery, I get at least a days worth of use out of my phone with my average usage. The only camera feature that the pixel doesn't have is a white angle outside lens which I don't really need. I have a wide angle selfie camera which is really nice. As far as cloud storage photo bucket and other companies storage, one of those huge incentives and advantages from Google for buying a pixel phone is a unlimited cloud storage for your photos. I will say this, for Google's algorithms, machine learning artificial intelligence HDR plus, I can still tell a difference when I watch other YouTube videos of Galaxy phones such as a note 9 and Pixel 3 quality of the picture. I'm not a photographer by any stretch of the imagination but the phone does all the work for me and I love it. for example, when I had my older Galaxy s8 I usually Galaxy camera have, with Google photos. Whenever I took a picture I had to edit the picture to make it look brighter on my older phone versus my 3XL where I don't have to do that at all. I can definitely tell that that screen on the 3 XL a little bit sharper.

 

[eric002]

Why are we talking about SD cards? Is this 2012?

2nd verse, same as the 1st and then the chorus... SD cards are still slower, less secure and less stable. That hasn't changed. They also do not work well with Android because Android treats them as if they're less secure, slower and less stable... because they are. Adopted storage didn't solve that, it just confused even more consumers.

Thank you, couldn't have said a better myself.

 

[Itsa_Me_Mario]

I'll never buy into the idea that Google needs to sell a ton of Pixels, and I don't actually think that's what they even want to

Ding ding.. however the article is suggesting that investors disagree. Which in the really real world are the real shotcallers.

 

[mustang7757]

Yeah at how much more.
No bigger battery
Still no SD card.
Not worth the extra money.
Google wants to compete with Samsung.
How.
They offer little in the hardware Dept.

My wife never had a issue with her unlocked Note 9.

Google did away with sd card because issues with it , cant put apps as adoptable storage causes freezing slower speeds.basically it only good for photos and music .

Storage is more if you choose 128 from 64gb
But every manufacturers charge that not just Google.


Like I said the battery was on par with most others besides the 2 phones I mentioned.

 

[eric002]

Ding ding.. however the article is suggesting that investors disagree. Which in the really real world are the real shotcallers.

Yeah, unfortunately so. Investors and stock holders are the ones that called the company shots. But I agree with you Google wants The Pixel phone to be a niche phone... just like how the older Nexus phones were too.

 

[onthecouchagain]

I say this with the best intentions: Good.

Google needs to realize that if they want to compete in the premium space at these premium prices, they should step up their game. I am satisfied with my Pixel 3, but think this is a good nudge and hopefully a wakeup call of sorts to Google.

There clearly were some missteps with the Pixel 3 and 3XL. I won't rehash everything again in detail, but generally speaking:

-Questionable design choices like the notch.

-The lackluster amount of RAM. Never mind for a moment what amount of RAM the competition is throwing into their flagships, there simply isn't enough RAM for the Pixel to run well beyond the basic tasks. Even after the update, my music player randomly stops playing music sometimes if I have other apps going. More RAM also means apps can stay open longer. Apps that stay open longer so that I can switch to them faster is a faster software experience. The Pixel deserves more RAM plain and simple.

-Quality control issues.

-The lack of a wide-angled and/or true telephoto lens on the back. Again, never mind what the competition is doing. Google themselves seem to understand the usefulness of dual-cameras for the front selfie cam. Why did that take priority over the back main shooter.


It's no longer enough that Google just offers the best camera in a smartphone. And even that has caveats, from camera launching and performance issues to the objectively terrible video recording experience. It's also no longer enough that Google promises software updates. Android in its current build is stable, secure, and feature-rich as hell -- updates just aren't as important anymore. All companies should strive to provide timely updates, but in day to day use, it isn't as necessary as it once was with Android devices.

I know Google said it could take 3-5 years for them to fully develop their smartphone arm. Fine. It's year four now, let's get it together for the Pixel 4 (not to mention years of beta practice with the Nexus). If you want to compete in this premium space, you need to offer a premium smartphone -- not just a premium smartphone camera.

One final quip:
What's up with the Pixel 3a mid-range models potentially getting a 3.5 mm headphone jack? Is it me or is it idiotic that the cheaper model gets that feature but not the higher priced premium models? Remember, the headphone jack is a feature (it's not like the Pixel 3a won't have bluetooth). Anyone else confused by this? Is it too far to hope that Google may bring it back to the Pixel 4?

 

[Golfdriver97]

Google may bring it back to the Pixel 4?

I hope they will. I was never a fan of Bluetooth headphones, and USB C headphone selection is just soooo wonderful (read with a lot of sarcasm in the tone).

 

[mustang7757]

I say this with the best intentions: Good.

Google needs to realize that if they want to compete in the premium space at these premium prices, they should step up their game. I am satisfied with my Pixel 3, but think this is a good nudge and hopefully a wakeup call of sorts to Google.

There clearly were some missteps with the Pixel 3 and 3XL. I won't rehash everything again in detail, but generally speaking:

-Questionable design choices like the notch.

-The lackluster amount of RAM. Never mind for a moment what amount of RAM the competition is throwing into their flagships, there simply isn't enough RAM for the Pixel to run well beyond the basic tasks. Even after the update, my music player randomly stops playing music sometimes if I have other apps going. More RAM also means apps can stay open longer. Apps that stay open longer so that I can switch to them faster is a faster software experience. The Pixel deserves more RAM plain and simple.

-Quality control issues.

-The lack of a wide-angled and/or true telephoto lens on the back. Again, never mind what the competition is doing. Google themselves seem to understand the usefulness of dual-cameras for the front selfie cam. Why did that take priority over the back main shooter.


It's no longer enough that Google just offers the best camera in a smartphone. And even that has caveats, from camera launching and performance issues to the objectively terrible video recording experience. It's also no longer enough that Google promises software updates. Android in its current build is stable, secure, and feature-rich as hell -- updates just aren't as important anymore. All companies should strive to provide timely updates, but in day to day use, it isn't as necessary as it once was with Android devices.

I know Google said it could take 3-5 years for them to fully develop their smartphone arm. Fine. It's year four now, let's get it together for the Pixel 4 (not to mention years of beta practice with the Nexus). If you want to compete in this premium space, you need to offer a premium smartphone -- not just a premium smartphone camera.

One final quip:
What's up with the Pixel 3a mid-range models potentially getting a 3.5 mm headphone jack? Is it me or is it idiotic that the cheaper model gets that feature but not the higher priced premium models? Remember, the headphone jack is a feature (it's not like the Pixel 3a won't have bluetooth). Anyone else confused by this? Is it too far to hope that Google may bring it back to the Pixel 4?

I agree with a lot of what your saying
But some things I want to point out

Camera front: Google has the wide selfie on 3xl , the video part needs work and a point and shoot camera it's very hard to beat that's what makes it a great experience.

Ram : actually this phone is ok for ram , ram memory/managment was a issue for some after updates, but to say it cant operate with 4gb ? It can and very well with smooth zippy UI. Take for example Huawei pro 30 they are aggressive with ram managment for battery life in return a 6/8gb phone cant hold apps in memory long enough because of it , yes pixel 4 will probably be minum 6gb ram or more but not needed just better ram managment.

Pixel 3 offered:
Ip water resistant
One best panel on market
Wireless charging
AOD
Loud clear stero speakers
All glass build which is beautiful
Google goodies on board
Their own version fast charging
These are premium things on a device and
Uncluttered software experience.

Yes the notch was fine but little too big,should of been smaller ,video needs work. I like to see rear telephoto with dual camera be cool.

To say this phone not premium is false it has flaws like any other out there, look at Huawei p30 went to a 1080 panel from p20 stellar panel .

 

[Almeuit]

I bet Google will want to charge you for cloud storage one day.

Yes Google already does this -- along with every other company that offers cloud storage. When you find one that offers free cloud storage please hit me up -- otherwise what you are saying makes literally no sense.

Look at the companies like Photobucket who used to let you store photo's for free to post on web sites.
Now they want money.
Look at YouTube
Now they want money..

Whoa you mean a company wants to be able to pay for the servers, bandwidth, teams to manage servers, etc. etc.? Doesn't sound crazy to me.

 

[cardboard60]

Ask yourself
Why are Google's sales down.
Google is still selling their phones as premium devices which they are not.
You talk about the SD card being slow.
On the S8+ it wasn't slow.
On the note 9 it's not slow.
And the SD card is less secure.

What do you keep on yer SD card.
Your banking records.
Give me a break.
Most people keep pictures. Music, and games.

They took our removable batteries from us.
Now the SD cards.
For what.
The phones being waterproof. Big deal.

Everything anybody wants to know about us on cloud.
Where we live. Where we work.
The routes we take all the time.
And when we are on those routes.
They have our pictures,band locations of the pictures.
Who we call.
They have our finger prints.
If you like facial recognition.
That is probably in cloud..
If you bank with your phone.
Bet that is in cloud
You think Google don't sell information to marketers to market you on the internet.
You don't think they don't have your phone number.
They know who you call.


What if a Google employee gets upset. Even as being a professional.


So exactly how secure are you wanting to talk about.

 

[onthecouchagain]

If they're not going to offer expandable storage, Google should certainly offer higher onboard storage options. Would be nice if they matched Samsung's 128GB default and then offer a 256GB upgrade.

 

[cardboard60]

If they're not going to offer expandable storage, Google should certainly offer higher onboard storage options. Would be nice if they matched Samsung's 128GB default and then offer a 256GB upgrade.

You said it.
When the iphones Was out.
What did they have a 16 gb phone.
If you had a lot of pictures.
You had to delete them to do a update.
So Samsung was the 1st people to make a 32 gb storage.
And had continued to do it .
Samsung has been the people to increase ram.

While everybody else plays catch up.
And Samsung still offers SD card storage.
Have you heard a lot about people getting stuff stolen off SD cards.
Heck no.

 

[Almeuit]

Ask yourself
Why are Google's sales down.
Google is still selling their phones as premium devices which they are not.
You talk about the SD card being slow.
On the S8+ it wasn't slow.
On the note 9 it's not slow.
And the SD card is less secure.

What do you keep on yer SD card.
Your banking records.
Give me a break.
Most people keep pictures. Music, and games.

They took our removable batteries from us.
Now the SD cards.
For what.
The phones being waterproof. Big deal.

Everything anybody wants to know about us on cloud.
Where we live. Where we work.
The routes we take all the time.
And when we are on those routes.
They have our pictures,band locations of the pictures.
Who we call.
They have our finger prints.
If you like facial recognition.
That is probably in cloud..
If you bank with your phone.
Bet that is in cloud
You think Google don't sell information to marketers to market you on the internet.
You don't think they don't have your phone number.
They know who you call.


What if a Google employee gets upset. Even as being a professional.


So exactly how secure are you wanting to talk about.

Has nothing to do what what I was talking about .. you are just rambling on about stuff I never even said.

Also sounds like you don't understand half the tech because half the things you said aren't done that way so sounds like you do a ton of guessing with no actual fact checking.

 

[cardboard60]

Yes Google already does this -- along with every other company that offers cloud storage. When you find one that offers free cloud storage please hit me up -- otherwise what you are saying makes literally no sense.



Whoa you mean a company wants to be able to pay for the servers, bandwidth, teams to manage servers, etc. etc.? Doesn't sound crazy to me.

So you are saying, everything you do on the internet.
You should have to pay somebody for.
Sounds like you want to shut the internet down

I didn't open these servers.
Know they sell information to advertisers .
But we are flooded with advertising.

Mp ringing off the table with computers and people.
Think the FCC got enough be complaints be they just went after some companies.
Where did those companies get the information.n

 

[Almeuit]

So you are saying, everything you do on the internet.
You should have to pay somebody for.
Sounds like you want to shut the internet down

I didn't open these servers.
Know they sell information to advertisers .
But we are flooded with advertising.

Mp ringing off the table with computers and people.
Think the FCC got enough be complaints be they just went after some companies.
Where did those companies get the information.n

Nope I am saying that everything can't be free -- which you seem to want which would indeed shut the internet down since no one would ever want to pay for anything to run.

See how that can go both ways?

 

[C5Longhorn]

Ding ding.. however the article is suggesting that investors disagree. Which in the really real world are the real shotcallers.

Investors didn't like the ratio of advertising budget spent to phone sales.

 

[elvee68]

Who needs an SD card? Even before I bought the 3xl, all my previous phones had SD card slots but I rarely used them. I back up everything to Google Drive, Photos and Play Music, which in turn I keep all of that synced up to my PC at home. So I have both a cloud copy and a hard copy.
As far as the sharing information goes...every Android device uses a Google account to sign in. When you accept the terms, you are giving consent to share information in some form or another.