Google to sell Motorola Mobility to Lenovo for $2.91 billion

[tex0322]

Re: Ouch, sorry Moto.

I just ordered one yesterday. I was mid contract on an iPhone 5 that has horrible battery life. I've kinda got tired with Apple. Worse case scenario I pick something else up when my contract is up.

I really think it is too soon to tell what Lenovo will do. Could be better. Could be worse.

 

[blacksapphire08]

Re: Ouch, sorry Moto.

I love my Moto X but i wouldnt blame people for giving it a second thought since the company was bought out by Lenovo. Im personally worried about getting updates. If they change the way Moto does things then i wont buy another phone from them either.

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[davidnc]

Re: Ouch, sorry Moto.

I been following Moto X on G+ and most people saying samething. They don't think there will be an impact for 2 years. Also letting it be known what would cause them to switch.

sent from my Moto X

 

[planoman]

Re: Ouch, sorry Moto.

My Moto X is probably my favorite device. That said, I understand about not liking unknown stuff. Luckily, I usually buy without subsidy so if things go south with Lenovo, I will move on to other brands.

 

[someguy01234]

Re: Google to sell Motorola Mobility to Lenovo for around $3 billion.

I do the same. I brought up the example of jeans because the past couple of pairs of jeans I've bought have been completely made in the US.

I also try to buy locally when I can--or at least from small businesses. I almost never buy from Amazon. Buying from Amazon is as bad as buying from Wal-mart when it comes to the impact on small, local businesses.

But there are lots of small business who only sell their products through Amazon.

 

[snoking]

Re: Google to sell Motorola Mobility to Lenovo for around $3 billion.

So I should not have bought my X from Amazon for a penny, because I hurt little guy VZW? Chris

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[ultravisitor]

Re: Google to sell Motorola Mobility to Lenovo for around $3 billion.

But there are lots of small business who only sell their products through Amazon.

And I wouldn't choose to buy from a small business that sells through Amazon if I can support a small, LOCAL business.

So I should not have bought my X from Amazon for a penny, because I hurt little guy VZW? Chris

I was speaking about what I do and why I do it. You can do what you want.

 

[vzwuser76]

Re: Google to sell Motorola Mobility to Lenovo for around $3 billion.

I do the same. I brought up the example of jeans because the past couple of pairs of jeans I've bought have been completely made in the US.

I also try to buy locally when I can--or at least from small businesses. I almost never buy from Amazon. Buying from Amazon is as bad as buying from Wal-mart when it comes to the impact on small, local businesses.

I will agree with you to a point. I usually try to support my local businesses, living near a small town in South Dakota with a population of around 1400. That said, if their prices are ridiculously high, I will go to amazon or Walmart. Case in point, I was looking at a bore snake (for cleaning rifle barrels). My local place had it for $29, Walmart had it for $12. If they're going to charge over double, they will lose my business.

Another factor is the quality of the item. Our local grocery store usually sells stuff for around 25-50% higher than a chain store would, and I can live with that since the nearest chain is 75 miles away. The problem is the quality of their perishables is terrible, and the worst part is they know it. When you go to eat bagged produce and find mold in there, or find out they're selling something like fruit juice that's a month past date (popped the cap and the smell was gag inducing), I will also go elsewhere.

But mostly, I use Amazon or Walmart for things that I can't find anywhere else, like hard to find movies or music. I also use Amazon for cell phone accessories since the only places we have here for things like cases and such are Walmart (expensive generic crap) or the carrier stores (extremely expensive).

But otherwise I agree with you.

 

[Hoff Woohoo]

Re: Keep or Return for Nexus 5: What's the future?

But the situation is different now. By Moto not going for all carriers at once with the X, they run the risk (and a big one at that) about potential buyers not waiting around for their phone. And with the tighter competition, and the phones on a more level playing field than when the iPhone first came out, exclusivity means you're effectively losing sales to your competition. You don't have to necessarily switch carriers to get what you want anymore.

When the iPhone debuted, there wasn't really anything like it for sale, so if you wanted it you had to go to AT&T. Those who couldn't switch carriers due to coverage or whatever had to wait. Many of them probably ended up with Android phones, and because of that Apple may have lost those sales for good.

If anything, Android might owe its rise to Apple's exclusivity deal. You have AT&T with the iPhone, and three major carriers and a handful of regional carriers without it. Android offered an alternative, with phones available on every carrier that give you a similar experience to the iPhone (by that I mean a touchscreen smartphone more targeted at the general consumer than the business class).

That's exactly what happened to me with Apple. AT&T had TERRIBLE coverage in my area at the time so Verizon was the only carrier that made sense. I almost switched to AT&T because I really lusted after an iphone and was nearly ready to sacrifice decent service in order to have a cool phone

Back then NOTHING came close to the slippery goodness of the iphone and the first thing offered on Verizon that was even close was the Palm pre. I won't bore you with the craptastic "iphone killers" that Verizon offered before the pre

Anyway, somewhere along the way Apple lost me. Even when the iphone became available on Verizon for $99 and I was back to rockin' a track ball Blackberry because Palm decided to make their phones out of solid cheese I used my upgrade on a Windows phone. I was really diggin' the metro UI and all but Verizons only Windows phone at the time was an HTC turd that suffered from random re-boots and an amazing 5 hour battery life :-\ I believe it was the only cell phone I ever had that rendered itself completely useless without any intervention from me whatsoever...

After that thing sh!t the bed I went with ebay android phones which were OK but still a little clunky when compared to the iphone. I had been sitting on an upgrade for about 6 months waiting for the S4 or a Nokia Lumia to go on sale when the Moto-X popped up on my upgrade page. Didn't know a d@mned thing about it but the Google branding turned me on so I ordered one...

Best phone I've ever used The UI is just as slick and smooth as ios, solid Motorola build, active notifications (Tasty!), Always ready google now \o/, pretty decent battery life...

Now WHY DIDN'T I KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS PHONE? I'm not a hardcore phone geek but I like phones and read the tech blogs...

Seems Verizon had both Google and Moto SMOTHERED with non-stop droid promotions back when the OS was still a bit janky but the second that android SURPASSES ios and Motorola offers a genuine rival to Apple they clam up. Then Google sells the company

 

[TeknoBug]

Re: Ouch, sorry Moto.

I been following Moto X on G+ and most people saying samething. They don't think there will be an impact for 2 years. Also letting it be known what would cause them to switch.

sent from my Moto X

Yeah those who already has the Moto X is highly likely not affected. I'd say still pick up a X if you haven't yet, best phone on the market bar none. Only other brand I'd switch to is HTC, not gonna go with Samsung or any others.

 

[Cozume]

Re: Google to sell Motorola Mobility to Lenovo for around $3 billion.

Our local grocery store usually sells stuff for around 25-50% higher than a chain store would, and I can live with that since the nearest chain is 75 miles away. The problem is the quality of their perishables is terrible, and the worst part is they know it. When you go to eat bagged produce and find mold in there, or find out they're selling something like fruit juice that's a month past date (popped the cap and the smell was gag inducing)

And that is the result of lack of competition. The chains provide efficiencies of volume and management expertise the mom and pop stores don't have. Competition only makes things better.

Now having said that, Amazon and other internet retailers who don't have B&M store do not play on a level playing field because they don't have to charge sales tax except in places where they have a physical presence. THAT needs to stop because that is the real threat to the B&M stores.

Of course I like not paying sales tax, but I also realize how unfair it is.

 

[Ry]

Re: Google to sell Motorola Mobility to Lenovo for around $3 billion.

And that is the result of lack of competition. The chains provide efficiencies of volume and management expertise the mom and pop stores don't have. Competition only makes things better.

Now having said that, Amazon and other internet retailers who don't have B&M store do not play on a level playing field because they don't have to charge sales tax except in places where they have a physical presence. THAT needs to stop because that is the real threat to the B&M stores.

Of course I like not paying sales tax, but I also realize how unfair it is.

That's changing already.

 

[Ry]

Re: Google to sell Motorola Mobility to Lenovo for around $3 billion.

And I wouldn't choose to buy from a small business that sells through Amazon if I can support a small, LOCAL business.

Here's my take.

I work out of Sorrento Valley, a neighborhood in San Diego that's known as the tech center down here. Every other building here has a Qualcomm logo. You know who else is here? Motorola (more Arris now, but they still have a separate Motorola space), Samsung, ZTE, Texas Instruments. Sony, Intel, LG, and Nokia are in the next neighborhood over. I have friends at some of these places. Buying products from these makers helps me support them.

 

[Cozume]

Re: Google to sell Motorola Mobility to Lenovo for around $3 billion.

That's changing already.

I know a few states make you report it on your income tax return and pay it then, but my state doesn't have state income tax.

Congress needs to act on this and require sellers with more than a certain volume of sales a year to collect sales tax no matter where they are shipping to. That way small ebay sellers who it would burden tremendously wouldn't be impacted, but companies like Amazon, who could easily implement this, would be playing on a more level playing field with the likes of Best Buy and the other B&M stores.

 

[Ry]

Re: Google to sell Motorola Mobility to Lenovo for around $3 billion.

I know a few states make you report it on your income tax return and pay it then, but my state doesn't have state income tax.

Congress needs to act on this and require sellers with more than a certain volume of sales a year to charge sales tax no matter where they are shipping it to. That way small ebay sellers who it would burden tremendously wouldn't be impacted, but companies like Amazon, who could easily implement this, would be.

Why not the level playing field?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/custo...ag=hawk-future-20&ascsubtag=UUacUvbUpU3433421

20 states as of this post are subject to sales tax.

 

[Cozume]

Re: Google to sell Motorola Mobility to Lenovo for around $3 billion.

Why not the level playing field?

Amazon.com Help: About Sales Tax on Items Sold by Amazon.com

20 states as of this post are subject to sales tax.

So less than half. There are 50 states, ya know?

Anyhow some of those states Amazon has to charge tax because they have a physical presence, like a fulfillment center:

Locations of Amazon Fulfillment Centers | The Bottom Line

But other high volume etailers would not, like Newegg, would not so still not a level playing field for the B&M stores in those states.

 

[Ry]

Re: Google to sell Motorola Mobility to Lenovo for around $3 billion.

So less than half. There are 50 states, ya know?

Anyhow some of those states Amazon has to charge tax because they have a physical presence, like a fulfillment center:

Locations of Amazon Fulfillment Centers | The Bottom Line

But other high volume etailers would not, like Newegg, would not so still not a level playing field for the B&M stores in those states.

Odd. I don't recall saying it was fixed. It won't be until it's all 50. But 20 is a good start when it used to be pretty much 0.

That's changing already.

 

[vzwuser76]

Re: Google to sell Motorola Mobility to Lenovo for around $3 billion.

So less than half. There are 50 states, ya know?

Anyhow some of those states Amazon has to charge tax because they have a physical presence, like a fulfillment center:

Locations of Amazon Fulfillment Centers | The Bottom Line

But other high volume etailers would not, like Newegg, would not so still not a level playing field for the B&M stores in those states.

There always used to be that little disclaimer when buying online or by mail order (state X residents add X% sales tax) for buyers in the state they were based out of, but that's been changing in recent years. TigerDirect, a competitor to Newegg, has charged me sales tax for the last few years. They have no physical locations in my area, but I have seen quite a few places in the last 5 years be required to charge sales tax. It was only a matter of time, once online and mail order sales hit a certain point, they're gonna start charging tax. I'd imagine the reason they didn't previously was the amount of sales weren't enough to bother with.

 

[Cozume]

Re: Google to sell Motorola Mobility to Lenovo for around $3 billion.

TigerDirect, a competitor to Newegg, has charged me sales tax for the last few years. They have no physical locations in my area, but I have seen quite a few places in the last 5 years be required to charge sales tax.

South Dakota has had an internet sales tax law in place since 2011 and it only applies to large volume sellers who ship to South Dakota IIRC.

 

[Cozume]

Re: Google to sell Motorola Mobility to Lenovo for around $3 billion.

Odd.

Ok, well I thought your statement "why not the level playing field" was odd. Maybe I misinterpreted it, but it not clear to me what your meaning was.