Google to sell Motorola Mobility to Lenovo for $2.91 billion

Would you still buy a Moto X post Motorola/Lenovo Deal?


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Re: Keep or Return for Nexus 5: What's the future?

That's exactly what happened to me with Apple. AT&T had TERRIBLE coverage in my area at the time so Verizon was the only carrier that made sense. I almost switched to AT&T because I really lusted after an iphone and was nearly ready to sacrifice decent service in order to have a cool phone :p

Back then NOTHING came close to the slippery goodness of the iphone and the first thing offered on Verizon that was even close was the Palm pre. I won't bore you with the craptastic "iphone killers" that Verizon offered before that

For me, it was a combination of a couple things where Apple lost me. The first was the AT&T exclusivity agreement. At the time, Verizon and Alltel were the only game in town where I live. So I started looking at other options. I tried one of the "iPhone killers", the LG Dare, but it ended up going back to Verizon within 24 hours. After that I was waiting for the iPhone to show on Verizon. I was chomping at the bit for it to get there, but every rumor of it coming to Verizon fell through.

Then my iPod crapped out on me and I sent it in for warranty repair to replace the battery and hard drive (iPod classic). When I got it back I went to sync my media, but even though it accepted my login, for some reason it wouldn't recognize me as the legitimate owner of the music and videos I purchased through iTunes. I went through the support section with no luck, so I emailed support to talk to one of their "experts". After a week of him sending me various links to their support section (which I had told him I'd already gone through) he told me I'd need to repurchase my media. So I asked how that would work, would they credit me the total so I could repurchase it, etc. I was told they couldn't do that and I'd have to do it on my own dime. I had a little over $100 worth of media, and he wanted me to pay that again for what was essentially a problem on their end. That was the nail in the coffin for me, I'd never deal with iTunes or anything like it again (like the Zune).

I looked at the BB Storm2, and the HTC Tilt Pro2 on WM6.5. Neither of those really did it for me, they didn't have a TP2 to try in the store, and BB's Sure press sounded good in theory, but was horribly executed. The Verizon salesman directed me to Android. I'd never heard of it other than the obnoxious Droid commercials (my thought at the time). They had the Motorola Droid and the HTC Droid Eris. I almost jumped on the Moto, but he said to wait a few months when the newer models came out. In the meantime I found forums like Android Central and Phandroid and learned whatever I could. I ended up with the Droid Incredible and never looked back.

Since them I've had 4 HTCs, 1 Samsung, and 2 Motos (my discounted Moto X will arrive today). I still love my Droid Maxx, but at that price and with 5 lines I couldn't pass it up (we're still on unlimited data with a $20 data discount per line, so full retail, eBay, and craigslist are our only options). I still have my Incredible, being my first smartphone. And it's kinda nice to be able to fire it up and see how far Android has come from those days.
 
Re: Google to sell Motorola Mobility to Lenovo for around $3 billion.

South Dakota has had an internet sales tax law in place since 2011 and it only applies to large volume sellers who ship to South Dakota IIRC.

I did not know that, that explains it.
 
Re: Keep or Return for Nexus 5: What's the future?

still love my Droid Maxx, but at that price and with 5 lines I couldn't pass it up (we're still on unlimited data with a $20 data discount per line, so full retail, eBay, and craigslist are our only options).
You have other options to get a subsidized phone and keep your UDP if you have a family plan and there appears to be a way of doing it through best buy even if you only have an individual account.
 
Re: Keep or Return for Nexus 5: What's the future?

You have other options to get a subsidized phone and keep your UDP if you have a family plan and there appears to be a way of doing it through best buy even if you only have an individual account.

Not according to Verizon there isn't. The only times I've heard of anyone keep unlimited is if a CSR messed up or when their system had that glitch a few months back. I had them try to take my unlimited data when I went to activate my Maxx, and I bought that outright. As far as Best Buy, I try not to deal with them if I can help it.

The problem I have with trying to go subsidized and keep unlimited is, all it takes is one screwup and it's gone. Since the plan isn't offered anymore, they can't put you back on it (that happened to my brother), so I don't risk it. With the unlimited data, we have a promo from 2010 where if you had data on every line each line gets a $20 discount. So besides the unlimited data we're also saving $100 a month. With the money we save we could get 2-4 phones a year depending on where we buy them.
 
Re: Keep or Return for Nexus 5: What's the future?

Not according to Verizon there isn't.
I don't want to side track this thread so I will refer you to the threads where you can get info on how to do it and post your questions there if you are interested:

http://forums.androidcentral.com/verizon/227608-instruction-how-keep-unlimited-data-verizon.html

http://forums.androidcentral.com/verizon/351917-verizon-how-keep-unlimited-data-get-phone-subsidized-price.html


The problem I have with trying to go subsidized and keep unlimited is, all it takes is one screwup and it's gone. Since the plan isn't offered anymore, they can't put you back on it (that happened to my brother), so I don't risk it.
as far as my dealings with Verizon and others I know, for up to 2 weeks they can reverse any screw up, including putting UDP back on your account. After that the contract is locked.
 
Re: Keep or Return for Nexus 5: What's the future?

I don't want to side track this thread so I will refer you to the threads where you can get info on how to do it and post your questions there if you are interested:

http://forums.androidcentral.com/verizon/227608-instruction-how-keep-unlimited-data-verizon.html

http://forums.androidcentral.com/verizon/351917-verizon-how-keep-unlimited-data-get-phone-subsidized-price.html


as far as my dealings with Verizon and others I know, for up to 2 weeks they can reverse any screw up, including putting UDP back on your account. After that the contract is locked.

Well then my brother got screwed. He called later that night and they told him there wasn't anything they could do. I suppose it doesn't hurt that they're trying to eliminate the legacy UDPs. The CSRs probably get a bonus for getting a customer off them.
 
Re: Keep or Return for Nexus 5: What's the future?

Well then my brother got screwed. He called later that night and they told him there wasn't anything they could do.
That's when you call back and ask for a supervisor and then if you have to call again so you can get through to the retention department.

Anyhow, sounds like you are fine not getting subsidized phones.
 
If Lenovo wants to break into the market then this is the perfect way to do it. I doubt Motorola will change much. The Moto X is working. The features are useful, the updates are fast, it's a unique sales plan.

As far as price drops go, I'm not surprised. This thing isn't the latest and greatest on a spec sheet so it shouldn't be shocking to see the price fall. People are freaking out over nothing. Google wanted patents, they bought patents and in the process they nudged Motorola in a better direction. Motorola worked hard on the X, not Google.

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If Lenovo wants to break into the market then this is the perfect way to do it. I doubt Motorola will change much. The Moto X is working. The features are useful, the updates are fast, it's a unique sales plan.

As far as price drops go, I'm not surprised. This thing isn't the latest and greatest on a spec sheet so it shouldn't be shocking to see the price fall. People are freaking out over nothing. Google wanted patents, they bought patents and in the process they nudged Motorola in a better direction. Motorola worked hard on the X, not Google.

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Tech space mind share, yes.

But Motorola was still losing tons of money.

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Re: Keep or Return for Nexus 5: What's the future?

That's when you call back and ask for a supervisor and then if you have to call again so you can get through to the retention department.

Anyhow, sounds like you are fine not getting subsidized phones.

All account changes are reversible.

XT1060. Through spacetime.
 
Re: Keep or Return for Nexus 5: What's the future?

All account changes are reversible.
ITA but once you lose UDP on Verizon, the front line reps and retention dept can switch it back if they are willing to within 2 weeks. After that the contract is locked and you would have to go higher up the corporate food chain to get it switched back. Front line can't any more. Retention supervisors may be able to, idk, but the front line retention reps can't after 2 weeks.
 
My daughter is an iphone believer/fanatic after switching from a Verizon Droid to an iphone 5. She couldn't give 2 sh!ts about specs but really enjoys the polish of ios and is a long time ipod user. I had a windows phone for a while and I thought it was pretty smooth but she "meh'd" it... The 2 of us often window shop at the Verizon stores and no other phone impresses her. We were both excited about the S4 and HTC 1 but the S4 stuttered at the store and felt cheezy in the hand and the HTC 1 was just too overloaded with HTC/Verizon crap for either of our tastes...

Anyway, after putting the paid Nova launcher on the X and fooling with icon packs she's ready to dump her iphone \o/ Before the X the ONLY thing Android had going for it in her eyes was the ability to easily load music onto it.

If SHE'S ready to jump ship on Apple then Motorola/Google has done a great job!

Here's hoping that Lenovo/Motorola stays the course... The Moto X is the first phone I've ever had that I didn't secretly wish was more like an iphone.
 
Re: Would you still buy a Moto X post Motorola/Lenovo Deal?

I think the main issue for a lot of people was the trust issue - no one was told this was being installed on their phone.

Another thing was that the Chinese app store sold pirated apps and a lot of people who jail break are devs or don't want to support that kind of theft. And the evasion team didn't realize who they were getting in bed with and that makes people nervous. You are trusting the security of your phone to these people when you install their jail break. A jail break at its core is a hack that exploits a security vulnerability so you need to trust the devs.

Let's put it in android terms - what if you had an unlocked bootloader and installed a custom ROM and it included a chinese app store in it and you weren't told about that before you installed it on your phone. How would you feel about that?

I would want to know if the Chinese involved were all women and as hot as Lucy Liu. Just kidding.


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Re: Would you still buy a Moto X post Motorola/Lenovo Deal?

But she is of Asian descent. To paraphrase what the philosopher Bill Murray said in Stripes about Americans "We're mutts".
yes, but when people are discussing the "Chinese" buying Motorola, it is not Americans of Chinese descent that we are talking about.