How many have canceled pre-orders for the Pixel 2 XL?

[TornadoRed]

Yep, but that's a reflection on you and not on all of them. One of the key indicators here is "I think" and another is "bad screen".

As has been discussed ad nauseum, most of the display "issues" boil down to people that are not down with accurate displays being surprised to see a display where accurate is the default.

My issue, as with many others, has nothing to do with the color. Even those who don't like the "sRGB" expect Google to fix it with a simple update. But things like the graining, color shift, blue tint, etc. can be really awful depending on which unit you look at.

Of the three I've seen, two were laughable. The other could probably be tolerated by many people, although I would never justify it for $850. Given that two out of three I looked at were junk, I canceled my pre-order. Hoping it gets resolved in later batches, although I'm not sure how that would be possible. I would still LOVE to own this thing if they fix it.

I see a lot of comments that the media is blowing this out of proportion. I disagree, but even if I didn't... would you prefer they ignored it? I would rather see it plastered all over the internet so Google gets more pressure to fix it.
Could you even imagine what the news would be like if Apple released a phone with this horrible display? LOL... it would be Armageddon! Yet so many people want to defend Google without understanding that this is a real problem. Maybe it's because their unit is fine. Or maybe they think it's "fake news". Whatever it is, I can't understand people willing to jump to the defense of this monster corporation and throw money at a potentially defective product. But to each their own.
Cheers!

 

[Aquila]

You've purchased five of the 128GB models, so there are two and only two possible reasons for this. You think they are underpriced, or you have butt loads of money.

Or I think their value is exactly right on for what I want my family and I to be using this year. I definitely don't think they're over priced, for what I want they're definitely not.

 

[Aquila]

My issue, as with many others, has nothing to do with the color. Even those who don't like the "sRGB" expect Google to fix it with a simple update. But things like the graining, color shift, blue tint, etc. can be really awful depending on which unit you look at.

Of the three I've seen, two were laughable. The other could probably be tolerated by many people, although I would never justify it for $850. Given that two out of three I looked at were junk, I canceled my pre-order. Hoping it gets resolved in later batches, although I'm not sure how that would be possible. I would still LOVE to own this thing if they fix it.

I see a lot of comments that the media is blowing this out of proportion. I disagree, but even if I didn't... would you prefer they ignored it? I would rather see it plastered all over the internet so Google gets more pressure to fix it.
Could you even imagine what the news would be like if Apple released a phone with this horrible display? LOL... it would be Armageddon! Yet so many people want to defend Google without understanding that this is a real problem. Maybe it's because their unit is fine. Or maybe they think it's "fake news". Whatever it is, I can't understand people willing to jump to the defense of this monster corporation and throw money at a potentially defective product. But to each their own.
Cheers!

I haven't seen one of the bad ones yet and if I got one I'd return it in a heartbeat. I don't want a cover up, I also don't want a witch Hunt. Seems like there are options in between, like intellectually honest conversations in proper context.

 

[Wiley_11]

You've purchased five of the 128GB models, so there are two and only two possible reasons for this. You think they are underpriced, or you have butt loads of money.

Wrong! I see a third option right off the bat. He really likes his credit card company.

 

[Pinhead117]

Nicely written, and I do agree with many of your elaborations.

 

[Mike Dee]

Right now it is 54 keeping their pre-ordered Pixel; 29 cancelling their order.

That is a 35% rejection rate. I'd call that a high rate.

Call it as you like, It's not a scientific poll... Many posters use an app or tapatalk and can't vote.

 

[Jaycemiskel]

No clue. It just sat. Google can't tell me what is wrong but it hasn't shipped and was supposed to 2 days ago .

Dang, that sucks.

I am looking at:

Razer Blade Pro (1060 FHD version)
Razer Blade (14")
MacBook Pro (15" newest version)
Dell XPS 15 (newest version)
Surface Book 2

And lastly, the Pixelbook (16GB RAM version). Had a Chromebook Pixel LS and it was awesome. Sold it for more than I paid for it, 1.5 years after getting it :s

Off topic, but I love my Dell XPS 15.

 

[Almeuit]

Dang, that sucks. Off topic, but I love my Dell XPS 15.

Yep. So since it sat I bought the black from Verizon. I have it in my hands now. 128 GB XL. I canceled my panda order.

 

[Jaycemiskel]

Yep. So since it sat I bought the black from Verizon. I have it in my hands now. 128 GB XL. I canceled my panda order.

Gonna skin it to look like the panda? I don't know, the panda is just so pretty lol.

 

[Almeuit]

Gonna skin it to look like the panda? I don't know, the panda is just so pretty lol.

It is but I wasn't going to wait forever just on a color. I'm enjoying the phone a ton right now.

 

[Jaycemiskel]

It is but I wasn't going to wait forever just on a color. I'm enjoying the phone a ton right now.

Well at least you're enjoying it. And you're right, color doesn't really matter that much.

 

[PowrDroid]

Call it as you like, It's not a scientific poll... Many posters use an app or tapatalk and can't vote.

I could vote that I haven't cancelled my pre-order. Heck, I haven't even pre-ordered.

 

[Mike Dee]

I could vote that I haven't cancelled my pre-order. Heck, I haven't even pre-ordered.

That's true

 

[Torisen1]

It is but I wasn't going to wait forever just on a color. I'm enjoying the phone a ton right now.

I will wait for just the color but only because I have a OG XL so I can afford to. I'm not in a rush to have the hotness

 

[Almeuit]

I will wait for just the color but only because I have a OG XL so I can afford to. I'm not in a rush to have the hotness

Yeah I wanted to sell my S8+ ASAP so .. I felt pressured. Plus Verizon ships insanely fast. I ordered at 5 PM on Tuesday and it was here at 9 AM on Wednesday.

 

[yujinn]

Yep, but that's a reflection on you and not on all of them. One of the key indicators here is "I think" and another is "bad screen".

As has been discussed ad nauseum, most of the display "issues" boil down to people that are not down with accurate displays being surprised to see a display where accurate is the default. Yet these same folks typically interact quite frequently with iPhones, and haven't pushed the same complaints that direction. And iPhones are well known to all those except for the must ardent of Samsung Knights, as having some of the best displays in the market.

I think this was said elsewhere as well, but there's a whole lot of room between "not the best display" and "absolute garbage". Most of the media and the forums here are stuck on this false choice, as if those are the only two options. But some ideas that exist between those two extreme poles might be, "passable, decent, good, great, excellent, awesome, above average, average, less than stellar", etc, etc. We have more than two phrases available to us and could be well served to consider accurate statements rather than hyperbole.

The other thing is the $1000, and I know this has been discussed. The phone is $850 base, prior to trade in, discount, etc. Yes, if you buy the 128 GB version (and full disclosure I've purchased 2 and have 3 more on pre order) it's $950 + tax and you can get over $1000, but I'm not sure how many people are actually paying that much given that Best Buy had them at $100 off and trade ins go up to $400+ iirc. And even if the $1000 point were conceded, it is hardly the only flagship level phone that's priced as a flagship. And $1000 can't be taken in a vacuum, as if it is this outrageous price relative to last year or other years prior... because we all know that component prices have gone way up (storage and displays especially) and we don't have a limes to limes comparison trying to put today's phones against yesterday's.

That's just a couple of things revealed by the sorts of comments being made. And I promise most of this is not anything against you personally, it's against the shallow rhetoric being repeated throughout the media and forums and a request that context and accuracy be valued rather than scorned.

tl:dr, the thing is, we still don't know if all units are susceptible to premature burn-ins. Never mind the dull colors (which fans have been pointing out again and again that it is subjective) and the blue tint (which again the fans think is tolerable in 2017).
If Google acknowledges a manufacturing defect then game over, that's it. But for now, EVERYONE can just SPECULATE- die-hard fans, disillusioned fans, and haters (the 2nd one I'm being one of)

 

[Mike Dee]

tl:dr, the thing is, we still don't know if all units are susceptible to premature burn-ins. Never mind the dull colors (which fans have been pointing out again and again that it is subjective) and the blue tint (which again the fans think is tolerable in 2017).
If Google acknowledges a manufacturing defect then game over, that's it. But for now, EVERYONE can just SPECULATE- die-hard fans, disillusioned fans, and haters (the 2nd one I'm being one of)

If dull means more accurate, I'll take dull.

 

[firebirder]

For a billionaire company like Google to put out a sub-par display because of using LG panels instead of Samsung is an insult to any consumer's wallet. If Google wants to compete with Apple and Samsung, they should step up to this trouble, however minor. They are asking a premium price, I would expect a premium device. It's the display, just one of the most important aspects of a smartphone experience.

I, personally, don't think Google will ever compete with those two. Not that I don't think they can/will match up, but because the average phone user walks into a store and buys either an Apple or Samsung because those are the big names.

Secondly, I don't think these "issues" with the display are widely reported news. I've seen it on here, obviously, and other phone related sites. The other articles I've seen have been written by people who are obvious Fanboys for Apple, Samsung, or Google.

 

[Jaycemiskel]

If dull means more accurate, I'll take dull.

I tried using dull/accurate on my S8+. I lasted about 10 min lol. It was just so "blah" looking. To each their own though.

 

[Aquila]

I tried using dull/accurate on my S8+. I lasted about 10 min lol. It was just so "blah" looking. To each their own though.

I think it is good that Samsung provides the option