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HTC One (M8) or Samsung Galaxy S5?
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Welp, that's all just your opinion, so to each their own!
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How is that just my opinion. If HTC wants to get back to the top of the market. They need to pull customers from Samsung and others. There simply isn't enough growth in the market right now to do it any other way.
This is how Android grew as a platform. They leached a majority of BlackBerry, Symbian, and Windows Mobile's market share.
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Its your opinion because you didn't provide a single shred of evidence supporting your claim that the S5 was *such* an improvement over the S4 and that the M7-M8 transition wasn't comparable.
Also it is totally your opinion when you say that the M8 can't pull Samsung customers away, because you can't speak for the customers!
Anyways, I'm done here, as this is off topic for the thread.
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All that information is readily available for public consumption.
The S5 is objectively a massive upgrade from the 4 compared to this phone coming from the One.
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Yay! I get to use this again in 2014.
Samsung is proud, and loves you even more now that you've come into the forums for a competing device and told everyone how great they are. Hold your Samsung device tightly, and listen for it to whisper sweet nothings into your ear ...
OP — Ignore these fanboy clowns from both sides. Buy what you like the most. If you ask them for an opinion, this is all you'll ever get because they have zero self control and think their choice of smartphone is a measure of self-worth.
I don't think it has anything to do with Samsung. It's just that the M8 isn't really that good.
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I recommend being a rational individual instead of a part of some mindless herd. Go buy both, try them out, see which one YOU like best (you might even dislike both of them, and there's nothing wrong with that), keep the one YOU like and return (or give it away as a gift, or keep it as a working spare) the other. Very simple.
Reasons why I'm buying the M8 over the Galaxy S5:
1. Sense doesn't make me want to vomit like TouchWiz does.
2. There's a relatively large chance that I'll be able to convert the Dev Edition I buy into a Google Play Edition if I ever feel the need. This was a wonderful part of owning the M7.
3. Even if I can't do what I described in #2, being "stuck" on Sense would be far better than TouchWiz. I can actually see myself using the battery saving mode, I already love BlinkFeed, Zoes are cool, and I find the experience of Sense to be as fluid as stock Android and nearly as aesthetically pleasing.
4. The audio quality of the M8 (external and internal) is better than any phone ever. GSMArena said it was by far the best audio quality they've ever heard from a phone. I'm not sure about anyone else on here, but my phone is my main music player and, as a person who loves music, quality matters to me.
5. The build quality is fantastic. Call it slippery all you want, the M8 is sexier than the S5. It just is. I'm a person that uses cases and I will have one on the M8. But there are times when, in a safe place, I'll remove that case and enjoy the build quality of the phone. With an S5, I might as well just keep the case on.
6. The screen of the M7 was the best on any smartphone when it was released and is still probably the best all-around. The G2 might be slightly better, but that's it. Even if the screen quality hasn't changed at all from the M7 to the M8, it will still be better, brighter, and more accurate than the S5's AMOLED panel.
7. The camera on a smartphone is pretty unimportant to me. I've honestly been fine with the camera on the M7 even though I would have preferred more megapixels to zoom in. But living without will hardly be difficult for me. Also, from what I've seen, the M8 photos seem to have some very large improvements.
8. I've owned the M7 for a year now. That's rare for me. Yes, I did purchase other phones while owning the M7, but all of them paled in comparison. Also, my M7 has been undeniably reliable and I've literally hacked the hell out of it since day one. So I know what to expect from the M8 and I'd be cheating myself and HTC by not purchasing the successor to a device that I've loved so much.
1. Sense doesn't make me want to vomit like TouchWiz does.
2. There's a relatively large chance that I'll be able to convert the Dev Edition I buy into a Google Play Edition if I ever feel the need. This was a wonderful part of owning the M7.
3. Even if I can't do what I described in #2, being "stuck" on Sense would be far better than TouchWiz. I can actually see myself using the battery saving mode, I already love BlinkFeed, Zoes are cool, and I find the experience of Sense to be as fluid as stock Android and nearly as aesthetically pleasing.
4. The audio quality of the M8 (external and internal) is better than any phone ever. GSMArena said it was by far the best audio quality they've ever heard from a phone. I'm not sure about anyone else on here, but my phone is my main music player and, as a person who loves music, quality matters to me.
5. The build quality is fantastic. Call it slippery all you want, the M8 is sexier than the S5. It just is. I'm a person that uses cases and I will have one on the M8. But there are times when, in a safe place, I'll remove that case and enjoy the build quality of the phone. With an S5, I might as well just keep the case on.
6. The screen of the M7 was the best on any smartphone when it was released and is still probably the best all-around. The G2 might be slightly better, but that's it. Even if the screen quality hasn't changed at all from the M7 to the M8, it will still be better, brighter, and more accurate than the S5's AMOLED panel.
7. The camera on a smartphone is pretty unimportant to me. I've honestly been fine with the camera on the M7 even though I would have preferred more megapixels to zoom in. But living without will hardly be difficult for me. Also, from what I've seen, the M8 photos seem to have some very large improvements.
8. I've owned the M7 for a year now. That's rare for me. Yes, I did purchase other phones while owning the M7, but all of them paled in comparison. Also, my M7 has been undeniably reliable and I've literally hacked the hell out of it since day one. So I know what to expect from the M8 and I'd be cheating myself and HTC by not purchasing the successor to a device that I've loved so much.
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The iPhone says they do care about metal y0 since it was selling so good. Welcome to fallacy land.. No visa needed.
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Nokia 1520. Or if that's too big, the 1020. Don't like WinMobile ? Get the iPhone, or a Q10.
I've got the One (M7), the screen, sound, and build quality walk all over the Samsung. Do I have it cased ? Of course I do, but on cold or ainy days when you have on an over coat, do you wear a polyester suit underneath ? I wouldn't get dead in one.
Camera takes decent pics, if you spend some time and learn how to use it. It's not the best though, and even if it came with a better camera, I'd still have a dedicated camera nearby.
OP, you'll have to make up your own mind. My suggestion is to do it, then move on. Do obsess over it or second guess yourself afterwards. Just do it,
I've got the One (M7), the screen, sound, and build quality walk all over the Samsung. Do I have it cased ? Of course I do, but on cold or ainy days when you have on an over coat, do you wear a polyester suit underneath ? I wouldn't get dead in one.
Camera takes decent pics, if you spend some time and learn how to use it. It's not the best though, and even if it came with a better camera, I'd still have a dedicated camera nearby.
OP, you'll have to make up your own mind. My suggestion is to do it, then move on. Do obsess over it or second guess yourself afterwards. Just do it,
Wait you recommend phones you don't have and specifically don't mention Android?
Ok so figures (In my dumb opinion LOL)
HTC Samsung Sony Went "AAPL" this year,But surprsingly HTC and Sony went more AAPL than anyone else...
HTC 0
Sony 0
Samsung 1 ...And yes this is not their feather in the cap,the other droid manufacturers were too dumb actually xD I mean ok Heart sensor is cool,reportedly the camera technology aswell...
and yes All of them failed to be like "AAPL' cause iPhone is a completely different class of product because of their OS,they are locked-in etc and they do things good at what they do....So as Samsung,Sony,HTC were,but this time they failed....It is not about sales,it is about i mean I don't need gimmicks or so but they could improve on weak areas of modern smartphones Specifically droids
like
1. Camera compartment: 1/3 sensor,Really HTC? . ok 1/2.6 is fair enough but well I was expecting 1/2 sensors this time,i mean really camera is everything,processing comes next,Look how Lumias are spoiled by the DUMB processing algorithms,yelloish tints etc...So they could really improve on this department
2. Battery life: Ok I am a fan of androids for this...manufacterers providing fast charging cables/docks etc.... But this time around they could optimize their software Specially Samsung to improve on battery life,or may have something to the hardware to improve it
3. Performance Optimizations: IMHO this is where HTC blows past Samsung,sense doesn't lag and it is beautiful...I mean one can be sold on the software,and most of the phones are selling on the basis of their software IMHO,Samsung must had worked on touchwiz i mean it is really dumb of them....I don't know about Sony's sofwater well...
HTC Samsung Sony Went "AAPL" this year,But surprsingly HTC and Sony went more AAPL than anyone else...
HTC 0
Sony 0
Samsung 1 ...And yes this is not their feather in the cap,the other droid manufacturers were too dumb actually xD I mean ok Heart sensor is cool,reportedly the camera technology aswell...
and yes All of them failed to be like "AAPL' cause iPhone is a completely different class of product because of their OS,they are locked-in etc and they do things good at what they do....So as Samsung,Sony,HTC were,but this time they failed....It is not about sales,it is about i mean I don't need gimmicks or so but they could improve on weak areas of modern smartphones Specifically droids
like
1. Camera compartment: 1/3 sensor,Really HTC? . ok 1/2.6 is fair enough but well I was expecting 1/2 sensors this time,i mean really camera is everything,processing comes next,Look how Lumias are spoiled by the DUMB processing algorithms,yelloish tints etc...So they could really improve on this department
2. Battery life: Ok I am a fan of androids for this...manufacterers providing fast charging cables/docks etc.... But this time around they could optimize their software Specially Samsung to improve on battery life,or may have something to the hardware to improve it
3. Performance Optimizations: IMHO this is where HTC blows past Samsung,sense doesn't lag and it is beautiful...I mean one can be sold on the software,and most of the phones are selling on the basis of their software IMHO,Samsung must had worked on touchwiz i mean it is really dumb of them....I don't know about Sony's sofwater well...
I was one of the people that pre-ordered the M8 online with my carrier as soon as the site went live at 1pm EST. BUT, after having floated back down to Earth from today's overwhelming M8 hype, I spent the better part of the last 4 hours doing in-depth research and comparisons. And through careful analysis, I've decided to go with the S5. Simply put, it's the more complete package. Allow me to break down my thought process in further detail (keep in mind a lot of this is relative to my personal needs but also mentions objective points):
1. Water resistance and more importantly, DUST PROOF. This is an actual real-world concern for me, because I work in the oilfield in Northern Alberta and my Note 3 has dust and silica sand debris in its charging port, and I can hear the debris getting crushed and moved around every time I plugged in its charger. This kind of forced me to purchase an Otterbox Defender to cover up all the ports and the BoomSound speakers for the M8, and getting a slimmer case or going naked for when I'm not working. Going with the S5 allows me to stick to ONE permanent case that is a decent trade-off between protection and aesthetics. The case I have therefore chosen is the Spigen Tough Armor, in Gunmetal (to retain some of that gunmetal sexiness from the M8 haha).
2. Camera. Truth be told, if you use your smartphone camera often enough, the S5's camera is just better in more applications than the M8 which seems to dominate only in low-light situations. S5 also has the same focus speed of 300ms as the M8, has 1080p at 60fps compared to 30fps of the M8, real-time live preview of HDR shots, and capable of 4K video recording for super clear videos - to name the more important advantages. The depth manipulation may not be at the hardware-level like the M8, but we still have that cool post-shot focus effect at the end of the day through software.
3. Download Booster. This is something I originally overlooked upon announcement but thinking about it now, this is GENIUS and I see other phones implementing this very soon. Being able to utilize WiFi and LTE simultaneously to download large files 2 to 3 times faster is ridiculous. I have a 30gb data plan with Rogers, and I normally download torrents through my phone at home as it has increasingly rendered my laptop more and more useless through the years due to the convenience factor. Downloading huge files 2 to 3 times faster is something I'm legitimately excited about!
Those are the main reasons but there are some other minor things too. Such as, the S5's dimensions makes it a bit more friendly to hold, since the M8's often noted in reviews to be abnormally tall. It's also lighter due to the plastic build, has a replaceable battery, more screen real estate, USB 3.0, and has a lot of health-related optimizations that interest me. Especially when paired with the Fit or Gear 2 which I plan on getting at some point. The M8 is obviously an amazing phone and I will indeed be missing out on the pleasing metal design, BoomSound speakers, slightly zippier performance, and the Sense aesthetic.But through these comparisons I would say the S5 is the better OVERALL phone for more real-world applications, even though the One will probably be better reviewed and praised in the tech world. I choose the more practical device, that has the fewer compromises for MY needs. Yours could differ so I implore you to do some comparisons of your own rather than riding the hype bandwagon!
Sorry for the long read but I hope I helped people who were also in the same boat as me.
- Vince
1. Water resistance and more importantly, DUST PROOF. This is an actual real-world concern for me, because I work in the oilfield in Northern Alberta and my Note 3 has dust and silica sand debris in its charging port, and I can hear the debris getting crushed and moved around every time I plugged in its charger. This kind of forced me to purchase an Otterbox Defender to cover up all the ports and the BoomSound speakers for the M8, and getting a slimmer case or going naked for when I'm not working. Going with the S5 allows me to stick to ONE permanent case that is a decent trade-off between protection and aesthetics. The case I have therefore chosen is the Spigen Tough Armor, in Gunmetal (to retain some of that gunmetal sexiness from the M8 haha).
2. Camera. Truth be told, if you use your smartphone camera often enough, the S5's camera is just better in more applications than the M8 which seems to dominate only in low-light situations. S5 also has the same focus speed of 300ms as the M8, has 1080p at 60fps compared to 30fps of the M8, real-time live preview of HDR shots, and capable of 4K video recording for super clear videos - to name the more important advantages. The depth manipulation may not be at the hardware-level like the M8, but we still have that cool post-shot focus effect at the end of the day through software.
3. Download Booster. This is something I originally overlooked upon announcement but thinking about it now, this is GENIUS and I see other phones implementing this very soon. Being able to utilize WiFi and LTE simultaneously to download large files 2 to 3 times faster is ridiculous. I have a 30gb data plan with Rogers, and I normally download torrents through my phone at home as it has increasingly rendered my laptop more and more useless through the years due to the convenience factor. Downloading huge files 2 to 3 times faster is something I'm legitimately excited about!
Those are the main reasons but there are some other minor things too. Such as, the S5's dimensions makes it a bit more friendly to hold, since the M8's often noted in reviews to be abnormally tall. It's also lighter due to the plastic build, has a replaceable battery, more screen real estate, USB 3.0, and has a lot of health-related optimizations that interest me. Especially when paired with the Fit or Gear 2 which I plan on getting at some point. The M8 is obviously an amazing phone and I will indeed be missing out on the pleasing metal design, BoomSound speakers, slightly zippier performance, and the Sense aesthetic.But through these comparisons I would say the S5 is the better OVERALL phone for more real-world applications, even though the One will probably be better reviewed and praised in the tech world. I choose the more practical device, that has the fewer compromises for MY needs. Yours could differ so I implore you to do some comparisons of your own rather than riding the hype bandwagon!
Sorry for the long read but I hope I helped people who were also in the same boat as me.
- Vince
I don't think there's one perfect answer to this question - if only there was, it would make the trials and tribulations and paranoia over choosing the right phone so much easier. But for me, I'm still leaning towards the GS5 (disclaimer: I have been a faithful GS3 user for the past two years) and here's why:
(1) Camera
All of the reviews of the M8 thus far point to a lackluster camera. They may not be doing it justice. But I am not sold on UltraPixel. They can give it a fancy name and some cool sensors but 4MP is at the end of the day, 4MP, and reviewers have been quick to note how limiting that is in things like zooming. Samsung and Sony know how to make cameras - HTC doesn't. So I appreciate the breath of fresh air that is UltraPixel and dual lens software but if reviewers are saying it still doesn't work properly, I can't really go off a leap of faith. The GS3 has been a crazy good camera. My iPhone friends are always jealous and admit to me that Samsung simply takes better photos. I can recall countless times when my friends have basically put their iPhones away because the GS3 is so capable (and I do not encounter this with my family because we all have GS3's). I trust Samsung. I am skeptical of HTC.
(2) Water and dust resistance
I can't say enough how much I think this feature is going to be a deal-breaker for many on the M8. I spilled wine on my phone and nearly freaked out looking under the case to see wine spots finding their way into the phone, although I had wiped off the phone repeatedly after the spill. I am not overtly clumsy - things happen and I don't want the massive Defender case this time around. The M8 is beautiful - I concede that it is beautiful. But I don't see the function of beautiful when my phone is covered in wine.
(3) Generational upgrade
Many GS4 owners scoffed at how small of an upgrade the GS5 was. But A/C is not a representative sample of the market. Most people are coming off of 2 year contracts or some variant, and that's not limited to the US and Canada either. The GS5 is light-years ahead of the GS3, and frankly speaking, that's really the benchmark for me. If the M8 camera doesn't improve upon my GS3, I'm not going to be happy. If the battery life doesn't improve, I'm not going to be happy. What I'm seeing in the GS5 is a series of excellent improvements and what I'm seeing in the M8 are a lot of sacrifices without many tangible rewards. It's not like I can say that the M8 lacks 'X' but makes up for it in 'Y.' Anything the M8 has, sans maybe the boom speakers and metal encasing (the latter of which I do not think is such a big deal personally), the GS5 has or does better. And that's important.
(4) Durability of design
The M8 is, again, gorgeous. But I tend to overestimate the fragility of things like phones and tablets, because I have experienced the horror of dropping a phone and submerging it into liquid far too many times. If a phone feels delicate, you're going to treat it delicately and it's going to end up on the ground regardless. Durability of design is so important for that reason. The GS3's plastic case has been annoying at times because it's hard to get a grip on. After seeing the dimples on the GS5, I have to say: that's how you keep a Galaxy owner a Galaxy owner. GS3 and GS4 owners are mostly unconcerned with the phone's design (not in a "It's ugly but it works" kind of way but in a "We actually like the design and don't need to be showered in metal" kind of way). But when you hold the phone and it slips out of your hand because of the plastic back, it's frustrating. I feel like I can hold on to the back of the GS5 with dimples on board. It looks more durable.
Now, the GS5 doesn't come without its flaws. Bloatware and TouchWiz inhibits performance in many ways, and while I agree that it looks far more usable than in the past, I would prefer not to be hiding Samsung's suite of apps - just the option alone to delete them would solve the problem, but doesn't appear that Samsung is considering taking that route. The M8 appears to lack serious bloatware and wins on that front. And I think BoomSojnd and the high resolution front facing camera are impressive. But I don't think that any of those features are game changers.
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(1) Camera
All of the reviews of the M8 thus far point to a lackluster camera. They may not be doing it justice. But I am not sold on UltraPixel. They can give it a fancy name and some cool sensors but 4MP is at the end of the day, 4MP, and reviewers have been quick to note how limiting that is in things like zooming. Samsung and Sony know how to make cameras - HTC doesn't. So I appreciate the breath of fresh air that is UltraPixel and dual lens software but if reviewers are saying it still doesn't work properly, I can't really go off a leap of faith. The GS3 has been a crazy good camera. My iPhone friends are always jealous and admit to me that Samsung simply takes better photos. I can recall countless times when my friends have basically put their iPhones away because the GS3 is so capable (and I do not encounter this with my family because we all have GS3's). I trust Samsung. I am skeptical of HTC.
(2) Water and dust resistance
I can't say enough how much I think this feature is going to be a deal-breaker for many on the M8. I spilled wine on my phone and nearly freaked out looking under the case to see wine spots finding their way into the phone, although I had wiped off the phone repeatedly after the spill. I am not overtly clumsy - things happen and I don't want the massive Defender case this time around. The M8 is beautiful - I concede that it is beautiful. But I don't see the function of beautiful when my phone is covered in wine.
(3) Generational upgrade
Many GS4 owners scoffed at how small of an upgrade the GS5 was. But A/C is not a representative sample of the market. Most people are coming off of 2 year contracts or some variant, and that's not limited to the US and Canada either. The GS5 is light-years ahead of the GS3, and frankly speaking, that's really the benchmark for me. If the M8 camera doesn't improve upon my GS3, I'm not going to be happy. If the battery life doesn't improve, I'm not going to be happy. What I'm seeing in the GS5 is a series of excellent improvements and what I'm seeing in the M8 are a lot of sacrifices without many tangible rewards. It's not like I can say that the M8 lacks 'X' but makes up for it in 'Y.' Anything the M8 has, sans maybe the boom speakers and metal encasing (the latter of which I do not think is such a big deal personally), the GS5 has or does better. And that's important.
(4) Durability of design
The M8 is, again, gorgeous. But I tend to overestimate the fragility of things like phones and tablets, because I have experienced the horror of dropping a phone and submerging it into liquid far too many times. If a phone feels delicate, you're going to treat it delicately and it's going to end up on the ground regardless. Durability of design is so important for that reason. The GS3's plastic case has been annoying at times because it's hard to get a grip on. After seeing the dimples on the GS5, I have to say: that's how you keep a Galaxy owner a Galaxy owner. GS3 and GS4 owners are mostly unconcerned with the phone's design (not in a "It's ugly but it works" kind of way but in a "We actually like the design and don't need to be showered in metal" kind of way). But when you hold the phone and it slips out of your hand because of the plastic back, it's frustrating. I feel like I can hold on to the back of the GS5 with dimples on board. It looks more durable.
Now, the GS5 doesn't come without its flaws. Bloatware and TouchWiz inhibits performance in many ways, and while I agree that it looks far more usable than in the past, I would prefer not to be hiding Samsung's suite of apps - just the option alone to delete them would solve the problem, but doesn't appear that Samsung is considering taking that route. The M8 appears to lack serious bloatware and wins on that front. And I think BoomSojnd and the high resolution front facing camera are impressive. But I don't think that any of those features are game changers.
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I thought Jerry made it clear that too many people were choosing the S5 in this thread. He even took the time to post a colorful picture and a witty comment.
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It's fine if it doesn't look appealing to you, but how could you possibly say that it's not good at this point? Have you ever even held one?
I just stopped posting here because it was getting ridiculous. You're doing the exact same things you're railing against. Claiming how awesome Samsung's features are (going to be) while completely downplaying anything HTC has, just because. The metal? It sucks. (Despite never having held one). The SD card? Sucks, because people bashed Samsung for it, despite the fact that 32GB is widely available at launch AND doesn't cost any more. Meanwhile, Samsung has "improved" their software and screen etc, while HTC hasn't at all?
Seriously man, just wait until you've used both devices extensively before making claims like that.
To anyone on the fence, do what I did last year, if you can. Get both. I had a month before I had to settle on the One or S4. There's really no substitute, and yes that includes reading a bazillion reviews and forum posts. You'll pick up things that no reviews mention that are important to you. But the underlying reality from last year will likely hold true this year: they're both great phones, and you'll likely be fine with either.
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If those are the only two choices, M8 because of buttons and software, although I like the water resistance of the S5. I'd fully recommend the Moto X, Z2, Nexus 5 and LG G2 over both of them to almost everyone.
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No. I made it clear that fanboys gonna fan. Then you made it even clearer.
Carry on.
The next few cycles of phones are going to be boring. I am much more excited about Watches as this is the start of that race.
The most exciting thing so far has been dust and water resistance and that is really sad.
The most exciting thing so far has been dust and water resistance and that is really sad.
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To be honest, I think the performance issues with TouchWiz on the latest round of flagships is a bit overblown. The Note 3, for example, has no performance issues due to TouchWiz. I don't foresee the GS5 having issues, but we'll have to wait for reviews to see. The TW on that phone is quite a bit lighter than what's on the S4. That being said, I wouldn't be surprised if a few reviews mentioned "stutters" even if they don't exist just to keep that bandwagon rolling, Lol.
The Tech Media seems almost desperate to push a HTC's devices. I think to some extent they are overestimating their influence.
And the picture and fanboy mockery was in poor taste. If any normal user had done that, they'd have been handed an infraction in record time. I got a warning just for telling someone to Google something before answering their question (in the same post) yesterday, Lol.
The Tech Media seems almost desperate to push a HTC's devices. I think to some extent they are overestimating their influence.
And the picture and fanboy mockery was in poor taste. If any normal user had done that, they'd have been handed an infraction in record time. I got a warning just for telling someone to Google something before answering their question (in the same post) yesterday, Lol.
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