HTC profits smacked due to delay

[Jerry Hildenbrand]

Worried?
Heavens no. Not worried at all about a multinational corporation's bottom line. I worry about my own, and wish my yearly financial statement ended in a multi-million dollar positive. If they go under, someone else will make even more cheap consumer electronics to fill the gap.

 

[Suda]

Awesome use of that. Love it!

On topic: Choice and competition is definitely important for us consumers. If HTC falls, who will come into play? Huawei? ZTE? Maybe it would be the perfect storm for Googlerola to hit the market with something awesome and leapfrog everyone else? Regardless, a market monopoly is one of the last things we consumers want/need.

Sony could. But for the life of me I'll never be able to understand how they can get everything else they make to the States but can't bring phones. Sony makes the most aesthetic phones right up there with Apple imo (Xperia Z is the most beautiful phone ever made in my eyes), and they have the closest UI to stock Android. They'd make a killing and eventually be able to challenge Samsung's stranglehold, but for whatever reason they can't get their phones to carriers.

I did see a picture of an Xperia Z with a T-Mobile logo on it, so maybe it's a sign of what's to come.

 

[smooth3006]

Ill tell you what i got to play with the htc one at best buy today and while the design is ok its too small for me coming from my note 2. This is why i decided on the s4. Oh yeah and samsung was putting together their dedicated store today right inside best buy, was cool to see.

 

[JoshieMSU]

Ill tell you what i got to play with the htc one at best buy today and while the design is ok its too small for me coming from my note 2. This is why i decided on the s4. Oh yeah and samsung was putting together their dedicated store today right inside best buy, was cool to see.

I'm assuming you mean screen size was too small for you, considering the S4 device in entirety is smaller in dimensions than the One..

 

[smooth3006]

I'm assuming you mean screen size was too small for you, considering the S4 device in entirety is smaller in dimensions than the One..

How is a 5" device smaller than the one? But yeah the one was tiny compared to my note 2 lol.


Well maybe they are similar in size, i dunno.

Samsung Galaxy S4 vs HTC One hands-on - Feature - Mobile Phones - CNET Asia

 

[So Cold]

How is a 5" device smaller than the one? But yeah the one was tiny compared to my note 2 lol.


Well maybe they are similar in size, i dunno.

Samsung Galaxy S4 vs HTC One hands-on - Feature - Mobile Phones - CNET Asia

Just look at the bezels on the 2 phones, that and the speaker grills on the one.

Like I said before Imo (I'm probably the minority) I like the design of the s4 front more. I would rather have small bezels and the biggest screen I can fit in the case

Sent from my Note 2

 

[So Cold]

Here's one for people to ponder. If Samsung came out with the one, I know it really doesn't make much sense for them to but play along... How would it sell compared to htc?

Sent from my Note 2

 

[JoshieMSU]

It would be a sell out for months. The One backed by the the name and marketing budget of Samsung? Yeah.

 

[Dreamliner330]

HTC makes some of the best phones on the market...well, at least they are capable of it. They lost dominance in 2010, its their own fault.

 

[lou61166]

I would take the the smaller display of the one over the galaxy 4 or note 2,after owning the DNA,the Note 2 screen cannot match it,cannot speak for the S4,granted this may not be as important to some,but the clarity and image quality has become important for me at least.

 

[Dreamliner330]

^The DNA and One have the best screens on the market.

AMOLED is awful.

 

[Russ Smith]

Sony could. But for the life of me I'll never be able to understand how they can get everything else they make to the States but can't bring phones. Sony makes the most aesthetic phones right up there with Apple imo (Xperia Z is the most beautiful phone ever made in my eyes), and they have the closest UI to stock Android. They'd make a killing and eventually be able to challenge Samsung's stranglehold, but for whatever reason they can't get their phones to carriers.

I did see a picture of an Xperia Z with a T-Mobile logo on it, so maybe it's a sign of what's to come.

T-mobile is an international brand, there's loads of T-Mobile Xperia zs in the uk.

Sent from my HTC One

 

[xtn]

^The DNA and One have the best screens on the market.

AMOLED is awful.

LOL that's subjective. I think backlit lcds are awful.

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[adriandb]

LOL that's subjective. I think backlit lcds are awful.2

Certain aspects of screen quality are subjective, but accurate color representation is not; it's measurable.

 

[xtn]

Certain aspects of screen quality are subjective, but accurate color representation is not; it's measurable.

I mean that lcds are better at some things, and amoled are better at some things. Which things a consumer values higher are subjective.

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[BigDinCA]

It might be since it's already shipping with an outdated version of Android and probably won't get upgraded to Key Lime Pie as quickly as it's chief competitor.

Of all the things that get said about this device, good and bad, in comparison to anything else out there now or coming out in the future, this is absolutely the dumbest thing I hear. If I see it in a review as a big negative against the phone, I can't take the rest of the review serioiusly and my opinion of the reviewer drops a notch or two. Talk about the battery, the storage capacity, the screen size and tech, the user interface, the camera - all of these things are great discussion points no matter which side of the conversation you are on. But to pretend like the One is already running outdated software, like it's shipping with Froyo and everything else is shipping with Lollipop or Milkshake or Nougat Bar, is absurd.

 

[madlaw1071]

Of all the things that get said about this device, good and bad, in comparison to anything else out there now or coming out in the future, this is absolutely the dumbest thing I hear. If I see it in a review as a big negative against the phone, I can't take the rest of the review serioiusly and my opinion of the reviewer drops a notch or two. Talk about the battery, the storage capacity, the screen size and tech, the user interface, the camera - all of these things are great discussion points no matter which side of the conversation you are on. But to pretend like the One is already running outdated software, like it's shipping with Froyo and everything else is shipping with Lollipop or Milkshake or Nougat Bar, is absurd.

In your opinion great. But given HTC's poor track record of timely updates, major financial troubles, and second tier status, it is not unreasonable to worry about whether and when it will get Key Lime Pie, particularly since it's already a version down coming out of the gate.

 

[Topgonzo]

In your opinion great. But given HTC's poor track record of timely updates, major financial troubles, and second tier status, it is not unreasonable to worry about whether and when it will get Key Lime Pie, particularly since it's already a version down coming out of the gate.

What are you talking about? I read a article online at the beginning of the year that showed htc actually it's the leader when it comes to getting updates.. Do people try to just bash everything that they themselves don't like..a positive phone that it's the best thing we've seen since the first nexus from HTC and they get bashed for not updating ? Why not ask someone with Verizon about getting phones and or updates for phones.

Sent from my amazing HTC ONE Quietly brilliant!

 

[BigDinCA]

In your opinion great. But given HTC's poor track record of timely updates, major financial troubles, and second tier status, it is not unreasonable to worry about whether and when it will get Key Lime Pie, particularly since it's already a version down coming out of the gate.

I suppose part of that is my opinion. Though I think my opinion has more truth than your facts. I can't recall HTC having a poor track record with updates. My OG EVO had lots of updates to it, so did my 3D (which is more impressive because the camera was not easy to get working with Android updates based on all the articles I read). And I have had my EVO LTE since last summer and received several updates from HTC. Timely? Well I guess that depends on your definition of timely. I didn't expect JB to hit my device a week after it was announced, but I did see HTC release it to the OneX just after Sammy released it to the GS3. Since my phone is just the Sprint version of the OneX I knew it was coming. Not every HTC got it at the same time, just like lots of GS3s that were waiting for their JB months after Samsung released it. I got my JB before any Verizon GS3 owners. And anybody on AT&T who didn't load it up through Kies and waited for the OTA in January? Waaaay before them. But I wouldn't say HTC pushes out updates faster than Samsung. It's well established that once an update is available, the biggest hurdle to getting it on your device is your carrier.

And the second-tier status? That was an article in the WSJ that every other site ran with. If you Google it I'm sure it seems that a thousand tech sites were saying the same thing, except they were all referring to the same article. Is it true? I'm not sure, though I can see it being an issue, certainly, when a company is cutting their orders drastically. That doesn't mean they can't get parts from suppliers. That isn't how the manufacturing industry works. I know. I'm in it. I don't think too much of the financials right now, either. Slice it however you want to, they still make a profit. And the One hasn't even really moved yet. I'm more interested to see 2nd and 3rd quarter results than 1st quarter results without sales of this device in it.

Now you are correct that they are behind a bit on the version number of Android, though it isn't just one. They are running JB 4.1.2 on it and the GS4 is running 4.2.2 and that's a total of 3 updates. But honestly, the average person hears that the One and the GS4 are both running JB. Do they know that there have been small updates to JB that the One hasn't gotten? Nope. And if they looked to see what those little updates were, what would they find? Anything substantial? If you have a Nexus then yes. Otherwise, not so much. Look at it for yourself. And I have no dount that the One will receive KLP right around the same time the GS4 gets it. They proved it with the OneX and JB last year and this year they only have one major new device to worry about updating.

 

[So Cold]

In your opinion great. But given HTC's poor track record of timely updates, major financial troubles, and second tier status, it is not unreasonable to worry about whether and when it will get Key Lime Pie, particularly since it's already a version down coming out of the gate.

I'm my experience I felt like htc was quick with android updates but was not quick with any sort of bug fixes. They wanted the phone to show up as current when you looked on the website and that's about it. I would expect this to improve with the one though. Htc can't afford to leave major bugs unacknowledged with this phone.

I wouldn't let this change my decision on which phone to get though. I would expect to see the one keep up a pretty similar update schedule with the s4 as far an android versions is concerned

Sent from my Note 2