HTC tried hard with the 10...but failed

[Nate79]

IMO, something along the lines of "I actually don't like the HTC 10. Here's why" might be more fitting.

I remember Andrew Martonik doing a similar post on the LG G4 last year and why he doesn't really like it. A fair amount of people did roast him. Funny enough, it was my daily at the time and I actually AGREED with him on some points.

And some of the comments were hilarious. You missed out on it.

Great minds, I suppose lol

 

[D13H4RD2L1V3]

Great minds, I suppose lol

Looks like we think alike. xD

 

[dannyar11]

Thank you?

Now that's not exactly true. You wrote the title as if were a fact, not your opinion. Had you titled it "I Think HTC Tried with the 10....But Failed", that shows it's your feelings.While your feelings about the phone might be legitimate, I can't help but feel you also hoped to rabble rouse a bit and stir up some controversy. Which you have done, very effectively I might add.

 

[ahaxton]

I agree. The response to my original post was the opposite of youre suggesting. I never once told people they should return it, rather it was everyone else who cannot believe I was having problems that they weren't they proceeded to call me a troll because I dared to insult their device. Grow up people.

May I respectfully disagree? Your tone in the original post, while perhaps unintentional, was very condescending to people who purchased the phone.

The HTC 10 is not a great phone. Its a great HTC phone. There is a difference. It seems people are praising it in comparison to what HTC has done in the past instead of on its own right.

This implies that people who enjoy the phone are not comparing it with an unbiased eye towards other phones, whereas you are. I have owned several different models of phones, my wife has an S6 and my mother-in-law has an S7, and I currently have a Note 5 with intentions to JUMP to an HTC 10. I am perfectly aware of the capabilities and strong points of other phones, and I prefer what the HTC 10 offers. To suggest that I don't only because I want an HTC phone is both untrue and condescending.

HTC really missed hard here and most people are just satisfied cause its the best HTC phone but not even close to the top of the ANDROID phones on the market.

A similar tone here. And, again, why do I care which phone is at the "top of the Android phones on the market?" Almost every review I have read puts the 10 among the top 3. So, again, perhaps you didn't intend it, but you are again suggesting here that people who are purchasing the 10 are not making informed decisions and not taking all factors into consideration.

Do yourselves a favor, save the 80$ and change and pick up a G5 instead, you will be much happier.

And here is where you tell people who perhaps are just as knowledgeable as you not to buy the phone. As has been mentioned elsewhere, the reviews on the G5 were not kind this year. Can you really not accept the idea that perhaps people HAVE compared the 10 to the G5 and prefer the 10 more? While you are certainly entitled to your opinion that the 10 is not the phone for you and the G5 is, give the users on Android Central a little credit that they have as much information as you do, and have made different choices based on different priorities. Any attacks on you made in this thread are because, as outlined above, while maybe not intentional your tone was very combative and dismissive of other people's views. So it is not entirely surprising when you get the same dismissive tone in return. I don't condone it, but at least I understand it. If you would learn to make your language a little more accepting of differing viewpoints then I think you would find you could engage more in a conversation as opposed to an argument. Just my 2 cents.

 

[dannyar11]

Like I mentioned in an earlier post, im not trying to be politically correct on watch my "tone" on a forum. I let my pure unbiased opinion pour out based on my use, disappointment and anger with what I experienced. I didn't try to sugar coat it. I know and stated that the s7 is the dominant phone overall on the android market based on general consensus and even my person use but still decided on the G5 after using all of them just because I preferred it. Ive accepted the faults it has in build quality but it seems no HTC owner is willing to accept the faults that many are having with the phone, they just shoot it down as we must have bad units, or we are trolling.

May I respectfully disagree? Your tone in the original post, while perhaps unintentional, was very condescending to people who purchased the phone. This implies that people who enjoy the phone are not comparing it with an unbiased eye towards other phones, whereas you are. I have owned several different models of phones, my wife has an S6 and my mother-in-law has an S7, and I currently have a Note 5 with intentions to JUMP to an HTC 10. I am perfectly aware of the capabilities and strong points of other phones, and I prefer what the HTC 10 offers. To suggest that I don't only because I want an HTC phone is both untrue and condescending. A similar tone here. And, again, why do I care which phone is at the "top of the Android phones on the market?" Almost every review I have read puts the 10 among the top 3. So, again, perhaps you didn't intend it, but you are again suggesting here that people who are purchasing the 10 are not making informed decisions and not taking all factors into consideration. And here is where you tell people who perhaps are just as knowledgeable as you not to buy the phone. As has been mentioned elsewhere, the reviews on the G5 were not kind this year. Can you really not accept the idea that perhaps people HAVE compared the 10 to the G5 and prefer the 10 more? While you are certainly entitled to your opinion that the 10 is not the phone for you and the G5 is, give the users on Android Central a little credit that they have as much information as you do, and have made different choices based on different priorities. Any attacks on you made in this thread are because, as outlined above, while maybe not intentional your tone was very combative and dismissive of other people's views. So it is not entirely surprising when you get the same dismissive tone in return. I don't condone it, but at least I understand it. If you would learn to make your language a little more accepting of differing viewpoints then I think you would find you could engage more in a conversation as opposed to an argument. Just my 2 cents.

 

[Almeuit]

Looks like we think alike. xD

Your avatar looks like Lucy from Fairy Tail ^_^.

 

[ahaxton]

Like I mentioned in an earlier post, im not trying to be politically correct on watch my "tone" on a forum. I let my pure unbiased opinion pour out based on my use, disappointment and anger with what I experienced. I didn't try to sugar coat it. I know and stated that the s7 is the dominant phone overall on the android market based on general consensus and even my person use but still decided on the G5 after using all of them just because I preferred it. Ive accepted the faults it has in build quality but it seems no HTC owner is willing to accept the faults that many are having with the phone, they just shoot it down as we must have bad units, or we are trolling.

Respectfully, again, it was not your opinion of the phone that is the issue. There are many threads in this forum of people not liking the HTC 10, and people either trying to help them fix the problems they are having or accepting that the phone is not for them. It is how you down OTHER people who DO like the phone that is the problem. Is it necessary to tell people who like the phone that they must not be as familiar with other brands and are only comparing it to HTC phones? Again, I would submit it is not. I understand you being disappointed in the 10. I understand you had a bad experience with it. I understand you may be angry about it. I once had a Motorola Photon. I HATED that phone. It was just not the right phone for me. But I don't think that anyone else who bought it and enjoyed it must not know enough about other phones. I assume they have different priorities from me, and enjoy different things than I do. But do you honestly think that the appropriate target of that anger is other users who do like the phone? I would submit that it is not. Again, please try to understand that others may have a different experience than you. It does not invalidate yours, and your experience with the phone does not invalidate theirs. As the commercials say, we can be together, not the same.

 

[Malek J]

I like htc but I'm just disappointed with the 10. I hope their nexus phone will be much better. I'll get that one instead.

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[markymark]

Who cares if it's my first post? Maybe I just finally felt inclined to come share my thoughts. So LG paid a random nobody on a forum to come make a post? I'm sorry but not everyone has to share you're same fandom. What I'm saying about the camera shouldn't be new. Every major YouTube reviewer and website has stated the same thing. It's much improved but still lagging way behind the other flagships. 6 Hours screen on time??? Don't make me laugh. Every reviewer claimed they were lucky to get 4:30. I've been using the HTC 10 since launch on the 18th and everyday since I've failed to get more than 4:30 of SOT. Posting your photos proves nothing. WOW you got a decent shot out of a 2016 flagship, CONGRATS! This is my opinion and its shared among many others.

In your OP you say the HTC 10 is the last phone you reach for on your way out the door for the day. Here you say " I've been using the HTC 10 since launch on the 18th and everyday since". Both of those things can't be true. Epic fail.

 

[dannyar11]

How so? I used it from the 18th-24th and then stopped there and created this thread on the 25th. In between that I would use other devices with my alternate SIM but kept would alternate back and forth. It got plenty of use, enough where all these problems were noticed and arose within that time.

In your OP you say the HTC 10 is the last phone you reach for on your way out the door for the day. Here you say " I've been using the HTC 10 since launch on the 18th and everyday since". Both of those things can't be true. Epic fail.

 

[gendo667]

You may not have told people to return it, but you did say this. May as well have put a target on your back man.

Do yourselves a favor, save the 80$ and change and pick up a G5 instead, you will be much happier.

I guess I'll jump in here. God, I'm searching for words. I've tried, most times I succeed, other times not so much, to come across with a well thought out post stating my opinion and making an attempt not to bash anybody's opinion or preference regarding their device of choice. I have my opinion, you have yours. I've been in flame wars. It's not fun when other people don't understand where you're coming from and trying so hard to get your point across AND not rub people the wrong way. I've found it's something acquired and earned over time and experience. For others, it may be different but that's the way it played out for me. If people tell you your opinion is wrong that's one thing, but others stating their opinion against yours........that's another.

 

[markymark]

How so? I used it from the 18th-24th and then stopped there and created this thread on the 25th. In between that I would use other devices with my alternate SIM but kept would alternate back and forth. It got plenty of use, enough where all these problems were noticed and arose within that time.

LOL...look I have no dog in this fight...I don't own the 10 or plan on purchasing since I have another year left on my current phone. But seriously you don't see the contradiction in those 2 statements? When you say the 10 is the last phone you reached for on your way out the door for the day, that implies that you were using other phones all day instead of the 10. So you weren't using the 10. Then you come back and say you used the 10 every day since launch. Those 2 statements clearly contradict each other. Like I said, I really don't care one way or the other. Just pointing out that those seem to be two very contradictory statements. .

 

[Habiib]

... When you say the 10 is the last phone you reached for on your way out the door for the day, that implies that you were using other phones all day instead of the 10. So you weren't using the 10. Then you come back and say you used the 10 every day since launch. Those 2 statements clearly contradict each other .

What I'm really curious about his how he managed to gather enough metrics to determine the following within a 5-6 day timeframe, being that other devices were being used in addition to the 10 also??

Battery is mediocre at best when compared to the s7 or iphone 6s plus. I can barely reach 4:30 SOT and that's on wifi all day and with location and Bluetooth off

How many charge cycles did he go through in that time frame, since the usage wasn't continuous....or was it continuous he was using it on WiFi All day(which implies you weren't using other phones)? It's confusing trying to piece together his analysis.

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[gallopiton]

ok ok ok, you caught the OP lying, give him a break hahaha... he is going to explain himself and another fight will break out... and i don't want to start again with the war-over-the-better-phone jokes...

What I'm really curious about his how he managed to gather enough metrics to determine the following within a 5-6 day timeframe, being that other devices were being used in addition to the 10 also??



How many charge cycles did he go through in that time frame, since the usage wasn't continuous....or was it continuous he was using it on WiFi All day(which implies you weren't using other phones)? It's confusing trying to piece together his analysis.

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[BigDinCA]

You're absolutely right that it supports ”OK Google” from any screen except an off screen. It's not always listening on the 10 as it is with the Nexus.

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Mine listens when the screen is off. I just tried it to be 1000% sure, but it works every time.

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[gendo667]

Mine listens when the screen is off. I just tried it to be 1000% sure, but it works every time.

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Did you have to turn on the listening function for any screen? I've done this without trying on past couple of phones. I'm also running Google Now Launcher. Not sure if a launcher might affect this.

If I'm not mistaken, I believe you have to turn on the always listening function in the Google settings, not the phones settings. I could be wrong, but I always turn it on.

 

[dannyar11]

You guys are really something. Won't give up. I used for HTC 10 exclusively when I first got it for 4 days consecutive. In that time i drained it to 0 and charged overnight 3 times. Every day the battery was the same. You like to disseminate every single little sentence to try to catch someone lying. Nice troll attempt.

What I'm really curious about his how he managed to gather enough metrics to determine the following within a 5-6 day timeframe, being that other devices were being used in addition to the 10 also??



How many charge cycles did he go through in that time frame, since the usage wasn't continuous....or was it continuous he was using it on WiFi All day(which implies you weren't using other phones)? It's confusing trying to piece together his analysis.

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[BigDinCA]

If I'm not mistaken, I believe you have to turn on the always listening function in the Google settings, not the phones settings. I could be wrong, but I always turn it on.

You're correct. It has to be done through the Google Now settings and not the device because Google requires you to train it for your personal voice detection. In all fairness the device has to be plugged in for it to work from an off-screen state, but it tells you that when you enable it ("Works when the screen is on or the device is charging").

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[gendo667]

You're correct. It has to be done through the Google Now settings and not the device because Google requires you to train it for your personal voice detection. In all fairness the device has to be plugged in for it to work from an off-screen state, but it tells you that when you enable it ("Works when the screen is on or the device is charging").

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Okay cool. I recently factory reset my G5 (no reason, just maintenance) and hadn't turned it back on. After my last post, I tried it out and it didn't work. Turned it back on and did the voice recognition and all is fine.

I didn't know the HTC 10 wouldn't recognize OK Google voice detection with the screen off. Interesting.

 

[gendo667]

You guys are really something. Won't give up. I used for HTC 10 exclusively when I first got it for 4 days consecutive. In that time i drained it to 0 and charged overnight 3 times. Every day the battery was the same. You like to disseminate every single little sentence to try to catch someone lying. Nice troll attempt.

It's not like that. It's not about catching someone saying something that's not true or inflammatory. It's just that not everyone shares your experience. Some have good experience, others don't. You can share yours of course, but if you rail on something other people like there will be a rebuttal.

Unless you're actually looking for conflict. In that case, no one can help you. Sorry about your experience with the 10.