HTC U11 or OnePlus 5?

[D13H4RD2L1V3]

Quite honestly, I think the OP5 camera is a sidegrade.

It's not universally better than the 3T in all areas. It's better in some while it regressed in others.

I still firmly think that they should have just gone with a monochrome secondary with the same focal length and perhaps oversampling zoom if the secondary has a higher resolution. That's still my favorite setup and I personally think it's better than zooms.

Then again, I'm a prime lens snob.

 

[dannyar11]

The thing is I absolutely understand that people put value into other things. My question is do you really put that much value into a phone running a few tenth of a second faster to open apps over a better camera, waterproofing, sd card, design , screen quality? All of which the G6 has a leg up on the op5 and are roughly the same price. That my friends, is what I will refuse to accept. It you would apply your logic to everyday life in other areas you would prefer a Corolla over a Tesla, a 2 bedroom townhouse over a 6 bedroom mansion.

 

[Aquila]

sd card, design

OnePlus is winning on these two things compared to the G6 and U11. Metal > Glass, 128 GB storage over 32 GB storage (SD card is still a bad thing, not a benefit).

These things aren't quite as black and white as we sometimes think they are. I'm not sure that the G6 has a better camera, haven't seen either of them ranked objectively yet. U11 definitely does, but is it better by enough to make that a sticking point? Not sure.

 

[D13H4RD2L1V3]

OnePlus is winning on these two things compared to the G6 and U11. Metal > Glass, 128 GB storage over 32 GB storage (SD card is still a bad thing, not a benefit).

These things aren't quite as black and white as we sometimes think they are. I'm not sure that the G6 has a better camera, haven't seen either of them ranked objectively yet. U11 definitely does, but is it better by enough to make that a sticking point? Not sure.

In terms of raw camera performance, the OnePlus seems to have a leg up on the G6.

That said, the G6's wide-angle secondary camera seems to help make it more versatile and it does seem to deliver better video, especially in terms of audio recording.

 

[J R Mtz]

OnePlus is winning on these two things compared to the G6 and U11. Metal > Glass, 128 GB storage over 32 GB storage (SD card is still a bad thing, not a benefit).

These things aren't quite as black and white as we sometimes think they are. I'm not sure that the G6 has a better camera, haven't seen either of them ranked objectively yet. U11 definitely does, but is it better by enough to make that a sticking point? Not sure.

Yeah, i'm with you on these. Metal>glass, and i'll take 128GB of internal over 32 any day. and the G6 still has the 821 snapdragon. No reason not to get the latest and greatest.

And going back to dannyar11's analogy, what if the mansion was in an area where you're stuck with DSL, but the townhome has fiber access? The mansion would cost more in electricity (I live in Texas so power in the summer heat is a big concern). I'd honestly take the townhome.

 

[dannyar11]

G6 camera is VASTLY superior. Ois, 4k video not shaky, wide angle lens. The works

 

[D13H4RD2L1V3]

G6 camera is VASTLY superior. Ois, 4k video not shaky, wide angle lens. The works

I wouldn't say vastly.

The sensor itself is smaller in size and the aperture is a tad narrower. The G6 has some issues in low-light.

It does deliver better video and the secondary camera is more versatile, however.

 

[digitalbreak]

Seriously, one should not argue over others reasons to choose a device. If someone like the OP5, sure, why not? If someone likes the U11, sure, why not? Both the devices have pros and cons and every consumer has the right to choose either one or both in some cases.

I have both. If you put aside the OP5 hype, and problems that you read in the interwebs, OnePlus 5 is a great device.

There are two big things talked about OP5 that people say it's not worth it:

- Jelly scrolling: Understand why this exists but unlike the viral video that shows this effect, majority of the OP5 will show this behavior only if you scroll slowly and not with your natural scrolling behavior. Personally, I have tired to find this effect in my OP5, and I just can't see it. The refresh rate and scrolling speed do take into account.

- Camera. Please, please, please don't put down the camera until you personally have tested and tried it to all ends. It's a perfectly well built camera for normal conditions that normal people take photos. Yea, drawbacks are no OIS and less sharper pictures but you now know the pitfalls. Here is my OP5 album: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1...?key=RjZzUzhpMXhsdjFfY0dxVzVKLVFua0tJVmwtMHJ3

So based on these, I will say OP5 is a good device but U11 does give you better specs, one of the best mobile camera, better display, waterproof and a damn good looking phone with the liquid glass surface.

Good thing is that you as a consumer can choose what you want!

 

[fuzzylumpkin]

Quite honestly, I think the OP5 camera is a sidegrade.

It's not universally better than the 3T in all areas. It's better in some while it regressed in others.

I still firmly think that they should have just gone with a monochrome secondary with the same focal length and perhaps oversampling zoom if the secondary has a higher resolution. That's still my favorite setup and I personally think it's better than zooms.

Then again, I'm a prime lens snob.

As an example of how important the camera is to me, do you know what my favorite feature of the Oneplus 5 camera is over the 3?

That it's completely flush when in a case lol.

It's all academic to me, most people only use the damn things for taking pictures of their dog or their lunch or their dogs lunch and then upload to a social media site to be compressed horribly... In the end, any camera from the last 2-3 years is adequate for about 95% of normal users and wannabe "photographers".

Brb, googling "prime lens".

 

[Aquila]

I do hate a camera bump. A lot.

 

[fuzzylumpkin]

I do hate a camera bump. A lot.

I'm a bit more torn on the positioning...

On the one hand, I enjoy symmetry. On the other, I hold my phone in my left paw and the camera is totally not in the way!

#PhotographyProblems

Apparently prime lenses have a fixed focal length... I imagine that would make them quite difficult to use properly...

 

[dannyar11]

"put aside the problems". That's the problem. If we put aside the problems on everything then the world would be a great place wouldnt it? Trump would be a great president, we'd have world peace, and people wouldn't die.

 

[vVick3d]

I guess you also don't mind than your screen has a jelly effect and that your speakers don't adjust to R and L depending on how you hold it? Easy to keep overlooking faults when your dead set on what you purchased.

Speakers adjusting? Why are you bothering with faults that can be fixed in a single software update?

I don't think you understand that if you don't care about the camera or waterproofing the OP5 is a perfectly fine device. Not all people use cell phones in the same manner...

 

[dannyar11]

Speakers adjusting? Why are you bothering with faults that can be fixed in a single software update?

I don't think you understand that if you don't care about the camera or waterproofing the OP5 is a perfectly fine device. Not all people use cell phones in the same manner...

Or sd card, or qhd screen, or original design....

 

[Aquila]

Or sd card, or qhd screen, or original design....

You'd honestly prefer to have 32 GB of storage than 128 GB? With or without an SD card? SD cards are slower, less stable and less secure.

 

[D13H4RD2L1V3]

Apparently prime lenses have a fixed focal length... I imagine that would make them quite difficult to use properly...

Haha, not really.

In fact, if you've been using phone cameras, you're basically using a camera with a prime lens unless they have a secondary camera with a different focal length.

I love primes because I really like to frame my composition and because they don't need to factor in more elements for different focal lengths, the image quality ends up being better.

"put aside the problems". That's the problem. If we put aside the problems on everything then the world would be a great place wouldnt it? Trump would be a great president, we'd have world peace, and people wouldn't die.

Actually, you should look at it as a whole, taking into account the pros and cons.

Like maybe a phone has a great camera, but the software isn't the greatest. Or another has superb performance, but the camera may not be what camera snobs like me are after.

Honestly, I don't see a problem with having different pros and cons on different devices. No device is perfect and none of us should treat them as such, nor should we treat a device as an utter failure just by focusing on its flaws.

I have always said to buy what you like, and I will always stand by it.

You'd honestly prefer to have 32 GB of storage than 128 GB? With or without an SD card? SD cards are slower, less stable and less secure.

Give me as much storage as physically possible with a hybrid slot.

 

[dannyar11]

You'd honestly prefer to have 32 GB of storage than 128 GB? With or without an SD card? SD cards are slower, less stable and less secure.

I'd rather have 32 with the ability to expand to what ever I want vs 128 and that's all I get. Also, to get 128 your looking at the higher end model which is already more expensive than a G6.

 

[vVick3d]

Or sd card, or qhd screen, or original design....

No need for SD card with 128GB...

Design is subjective (personally I think the design of the U11 is horrid...)

Screen you can add to the list with waterproofing and camera. It really depends on what someone is looking for in a phone...

 

[D13H4RD2L1V3]

I'd rather have 32 with the ability to expand to what ever I want vs 128 and that's all I get. Also, to get 128 your looking at the higher end model which is already more expensive than a G6.

But isn't having more storage out of the box better than having 32GB and then a 128GB SD card in terms of stability and speed?

I only use SD cards for media, and I recommend that people use it that way. Don't use it for apps.

I'm not complaining, just curious on why.

 

[Aquila]

I'd rather have 32 with the ability to expand to what ever I want vs 128 and that's all I get. Also, to get 128 your looking at the higher end model which is already more expensive than a G6.

The 128 is still expandable as well, just not through a slot that's physically inside the phone. Almost everyone phone running 6.0 or higher has expandable storage; just some OEM's aren't cheaping out on internal storage and tricking customers into accepting a slot instead of higher quality storage in the device. Most consumers don't know that almost all phones support expandable storage and so are easily duped into taking less + that functionality over more with that functionality. And even if you are willing to knowingly accept that compromise in order to get the slot in the phone for some reason, that still doesn't address the slower, less stable and less secure part. That's like saying you'd rather have 5 mc donalds cheeseburgers for $15 instead of 1 new york strip for $12.99. Yes, it's an option - but it's a little perverse.