I LOVE my Nexus (sarcasm) - complaint thread

[Johnly]

For a .0 release of an OS, you should expect bugs. If you don't you're not being remotely realistic.

Please...... I have ran .1 .2 .3 and several ICS ROMs. The dropped mic issue persisted. I never buy electronics "expecting bugs," however, I understand that bugs happen with technology. That is a given, not an expectation. You are certainly entitled to expect your bugs, but if you think only .0 releases are cable of having bugs you are remotely unrealistic.

 

[dmmarck]

So I am an early adopter of wireless phone technology? As in, "being able to make or receive--and maintain--a phone call" early adopter? I don't remember that in any of the marketing material from Samsung or Google. I guess I missed that part.

No, you're an early adopter of the specific phone you decided to purchase.

I'm sorry your devices sucked. Others have different experiences. Again (and need I say this louder?), your experience does not seem to be the general rule--it is only the general experience of a minority of users. BUT, and this a but that I'm not sure is being received, denying one point of experience for the other is meaningless, yet refusing to understand the proper context of the GN is illogical at best, foolish and careless at worst.

 

[jephanie]

So, hypothetically, because your phone was a failure, and because others have failed, the phone itself--as a whole--should be deemed a failure?

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On the internet, it seems like one bad thing is unfortunate, two bad things are a coincidence, and three bad things result in the complete damnation and condemnation of whatever that thing is.

Not one phone. Three of them now.

I sorely want to be the biggest "mainstream average guy" cheerleader for the Galaxy Nexus. I've been the direct reason that three others were purchased by friends and family (I kind of wish I got commission for the sales!). I am simply uber frustrated with the issues that have plagued me (Verizon's bungling of service handling is a whole other issue to boot). I just want the thing to be able to do the basic things cell phones have done since the early 90's....

 

[dmmarck]

Not one phone. Three of them now.

I sorely want to be the biggest "mainstream average guy" cheerleader for the Galaxy Nexus. I've been the direct reason that three others were purchased by friends and family (I kind of wish I got commission for the sales!). I am simply uber frustrated with the issues that have plagued me (Verizon's bungling of service handling is a whole other issue to boot). I just want the thing to be able to do the basic things cell phones have done since the early 90's....

Again, that's unfortunate (and I did say devices somewhere). But, again, you had an experience that is wholly different than the one that I and loads of people have had. Making a generalized judgment about something based upon that experience, although understandable, is illogical because it may not, probably does not, and should not reflect the majority of the devices/units out there, and is thus an illogical and false representation of the device as a whole. And honestly, that assessment could go from either position; my only point is that to judge something this early on such a small sample size without a relative understanding of the whole is foolish.

That being said, your frustration is understandable. From what I gather, the bugs really, really suck. I don't know how I got lucky, or if I'm just not sensitive enough to perceive the issue (doubtful, I have OCD that would put most people in institutions!). If I had half the bugs I see on these forums I'd probably be on my own 3rd or 4th device. However, I don't, and since rooting, it's been an absolutely amazing experience.

 

[Droid800]

Please...... I have ran .1 .2 .3 and several ICS ROMs. The dropped mic issue persisted. I never buy electronics "expecting bugs," however, I understand that bugs happen with technology. That is a given, not an expectation. You are certainly entitled to expect your bugs, but if you think only .0 releases are cable of having bugs you are remotely unrealistic.

You SHOULD expect bugs if you buy the first generation of a new generation of an OS. Its been that way with technology since the invention of the PC. If you don't expect it, then you're fooling yourself and wasting our time with your complaints.

 

[Droid800]

.2 release. And about half of the problems I have had so far have been hardware related. This is an even mix of failures in my experience thus far. Bugs is one thing. A totally unusable device for things such as having a phone call is another.

No. Its a .0 release. Until it reaches 4.1 it is a .0 release.

 

[SoCalBIGmike]

Re: I LOVE my Nexus

Yes, because the sales rep will somehow make more money for a phone with more 'Bloatware & Nonsenese'. What a joke. When you buy a new computer, dont you uninstall all the factory crap? Just deal with it. So TIRED of people like you ing about 'Bloatware' because you think its cool & everyone else is. JFC.

Just pay full retail price & import a phone if your so damn offended.

 

[Droid800]

Re: I LOVE my Nexus

Yep, just like I said, just stirring the pot. You haven't read anything we have posted and are just spouting off as usual. I don't see you posting anything constructive at all. All I have seen is misinformation and bashing from you. Stop.

Because everything you've posted in here you have posted in at least a dozen threads elsewhere in this forum. Show me where YOU have posted anything constructive other than whining over the same things and acting all hurt because some of us have gotten tired of telling you the same things over and over when you don't listen.

Show me where my supposed misinformation and bashing is. When we have posted constructive things, you dismiss them out of hand or completely ignore them.

Here's a fact: YOU and others like you have gotten bad devices. Just because you have doesn't mean that everyone has, and doesn't give you the right to come in here, trash the forums with your whining, and attack anyone that asks you to stop posting the same things over and over. We get it. You are having issues with your Nexus. Now instead of complaining, how about you let us help you without attacking us for it?

 

[dmmarck]

Re: I LOVE my Nexus

Yes, because the sales rep will somehow make more money for a phone with more 'Bloatware & Nonsenese'. What a joke. When you buy a new computer, dont you uninstall all the factory crap? Just deal with it. So TIRED of people like you ing about 'Bloatware' because you think its cool & everyone else is. JFC.

Just pay full retail price & import a phone if your so damn offended.

I'm not complaining about it, did you actually read my post about that? I simply said (implied) they have a bigger dog in the race than they would with other phones without it. How is that incorrect? You can honestly say that Verizon does not want a product with more of its "imprint" on it than a product with almost none of its imprint, and therefore a lesser chance to make money, have market impact, etc. etc.? Who cares about the individual rep, what about corporate goals, individual store goals, and worker and manager incentives?

Basic economics says otherwise, at least from somewhat rudimentary understanding of it .

Again, not complaining. I bought a phone based upon what I wanted. When I had a phone with it, I uninstalled it. That does not--absolutely does not, in fact--remove the incentive of a business from selling you something that they stand to have a better profit margin with.

 

[Johnly]

You SHOULD expect bugs if you buy the first generation of a new generation of an OS. Its been that way with technology since the invention of the PC. If you don't expect it, then you're fooling yourself and wasting our time with your complaints.

I think you are arguing semantics. I started out using a commodore 64, so please......

Let people have their say man, we don't know what they have gone through with the nexus. I could easily get up and bash the nexus because I think it is a horrendous piece of junk. It is worthless for me to defend, because it was the single most awful phone I have ever used "bug" wise.

I have adopted every new OS release of android early. I always do. ICS is a wonderful OS. The menu on top is down right awful though. I can live with the tinny speaker/awful sound. I can live with the display imperfections. I can live with ICS bugs. I will never use a device that can't hold a signal, and hold a two way conversation. These threads aren't just here, they are all over. It is what it is dude.

 

[dmmarck]

I think you are arguing semantics. I started out using a commodore 64, so please......

Let people have their say man, we don't know what they have gone through with the nexus. I could easily get up and bash the nexus because I think it is a horrendous piece of junk. It is worthless for me to defend, because it was the single most awful phone I have ever used "bug" wise.

I have adopted every new OS release of android early. I always do. ICS is a wonderful OS. The menu on top is down right awful though. I can live with the tinny speaker/awful sound. I can live with the display imperfections. I can live with ICS bugs. I will never use a device that can't hold a signal, and hold a two way conversation. These threads aren't just here, they are all over. It is what it is dude.

After seeing the results of 4.0.4, it appears that the holding the signal is largely (not all) software.

 

[Droid800]

I think you are arguing semantics. I started out using a commodore 64, so please......

Let people have their say man, we don't know what they have gone through with the nexus. I could easily get up and bash the nexus because I think it is a horrendous piece of junk. It is worthless for me to defend, because it was the single most awful phone I have ever used "bug" wise.

I have adopted every new OS release of android early. I always do. ICS is a wonderful OS. The menu on top is down right awful though. I can live with the tinny speaker/awful sound. I can live with the display imperfections. I can live with ICS bugs. I will never use a device that can't hold a signal, and hold a two way conversation. These threads aren't just here, they are all over. It is what it is dude.

It isn't semantics at all. EVERY Nexus device has been like this. Every. Single. One.

What is the single thing they had in common? A new version of Android.

 

[Johnly]

After seeing the results of 4.0.4, it appears that the holding the signal is largely (not all) software.

Did the 4.0.4 officially address this? I can't find it, therefore I am not sure. If you had my issues on your device you would not have made it to 4.0.4 unless phone calls aren't important to you.

I hope it is. I had little issues with the software, and I love it. The bugs were mostly related to application segmentation. The hardware is what killed it for me. If they can patch up those issues with firmware, great. I am rooting for Google, but I think they flopped on this one, sorry.

Motorola Nexus anyone?

 

[Johnly]

It isn't semantics at all. EVERY Nexus device has been like this. Every. Single. One.

What is the single thing they had in common? A new version of Android.

Semantics in regards to the "context" of our conversation e.g "expect bugs;" "bugs are a given."

 

[dmmarck]

Did the 4.0.4 officially address this? I can't find it, therefore I am not sure. If you had my issues on your device you would not have made it to 4.0.4 unless phone calls aren't important to you.

I hope it is. I had little issues with the software, and I love it. The bugs were mostly related to application segmentation. The hardware is what killed it for me. If they can patch up those issues with firmware, great. I am rooting for Google, but I think they flopped on this one, sorry.

Motorola Nexus anyone?

New radios are new radios, and said new radios have improved my signal greatly. The only hardware issue I've ever experienced on the GN is the AMOLED traits (very slight blue tint) and a terrible camera. Past that, no crazy reboots, no mic cutoffs (that I or another person had noticed), no dropped calls, no screen magically shattering in my hand, etc.

And no worries. I think the exact opposite, but we have two different experiences. Unfortunately, there is no middle ground in the state of nature that is an internet message board .

 

[Johnly]

New radios are new radios, and said new radios have improved my signal greatly. The only hardware issue I've ever experienced on the GN is the AMOLED traits (very slight blue tint) and a terrible camera. Past that, no crazy reboots, no mic cutoffs (that I or another person had noticed), no dropped calls, no screen magically shattering in my hand, etc.

And no worries. I think the exact opposite, but we have two different experiences. Unfortunately, there is no middle ground in the state of nature that is an internet message board .

Ah, no worries. I would have liked to have seen Google leave the gate stronger with this one, but it is people that stick with it, that usually get the fruit (no pun intended) eventually. I would have stuck with it, had it been tolerable telephone wise. I love the Nexus. My second GNex screen was almost perfect. I thought the camera was actually decent. I don't get why people slam it so much, I got great shots from it. I travel into and out of a 3G-4G area, and could predict the reboots while using the Nav. That chicks voice is awful, I want to cry every time she said turn somewhere. I will take the UK accent any day over the new one (she has the flue, yes?).

Middle ground doesn't exist. Though I think intellectuals find it anyway.

 

[dmmarck]

Ah, no worries. I would have liked to have seen Google leave the gate stronger with this one, but it is people that stick with it, that usually get the fruit (no pun intended) eventually. I would have stuck with it, had it been tolerable telephone wise. I love the Nexus. My second GNex screen was almost perfect. I thought the camera was actually decent. I don't get why people slam it so much, I got great shots from it. I travel into and out of a 3G-4G area, and could predict the reboots while using the Nav. That chicks voice is awful, I want to cry every time she said turn somewhere. I will take the UK accent any day over the new one (she has the flue, yes?).

Middle ground doesn't exist. Though I think intellectuals find it anyway.

The blue on my screen is only "bad" when it's on low brightness and in Currents or Kindle. Oddly, other white pages have no effect. Beats me.

And like I said, that's completely understandable. I actually don't make a lot of phone calls (I've prolly had 8 total hours of phone time on this since I got it a month and a half ago), so the phone issues can entirely be a sample size issue with me.

The one reason why I have is the OTAs, the softkeys (I sorta dig the menu, not gonna lie), and rooting on a Nexus. I missed out on the others, so I have ground to make up!

Oh, and I agree re: intellectuals. Unfortunately, there are like 3 on the internet, and they're mostly confined to defunct IRC channels and Altavista.

 

[osubeavs728]

There's a difference between people having their say and people making sweeping generalizations like most of the complainers do. You read something on these forums or go by your own experience and all of a sudden you view every single device in the negative way. It's human nature to do so, but I can assure you that just because you read something here doesn't mean everything is that way. These forums are such a tiny population of both Verizon's customer base and the Galaxy Nexus ownership base, that it's outrageous to base any kind of mainstream results on anything stated here.

 

[stormsurvivor]

PPl on this thread seem to forget a key component for any device. Take what might be the best handset on the market, equip it with bare minimum functionality, and you derive nothing from it. Conversely, DL apps that perform and you have the best device possible! I've equipped my Nexus with over 100 significant apps, created folders for easy navigation and derive productivity from the unit. The screen is appealing and the ICS UI is a major plus. I've used barely a Gig of memory and there is no lag time whatsoever. Sure there are a few glitches here and there, but for the most part, the handset is rock solid. I've come from a BlackBerry Storm, which was as bad as it gets, but in the same vane, was able to get the most out of that device by doing the above.
Some fuel for thought.......

 

[pauldroidr2d2]

I don't believe in expecting bugs either. That doesn't mean I can't live with a few nuances, but that would be it. You are braver than I going on your fourth one for a gamble at getting a good one. Actually knowing people that do must help. Maybe if I seen a good one first hand, or knew someone that had a good one I would have tried again. My fingers are crossed for you that you get the best nexus ever made!!!!!

You might want to reconsider Android devices. Each of them have various bugs.