I went to trade in for a Nexus and got slapped in the face!

Yet nobody wants to answer the big question: what is innovative about the Nexus?



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I asked AC podcast if the Rezound had ICS and the Nexus didn't would you be so high on it and they didn't respond :(
 
Must be the awesome VZW commercial where the Black family of four goes in and picks it up and immediately starts dancing...another nice stereotypical commercial to sell phones.

That's part of the reason why the Rezound isn't getting much hype. The phone is only marketed as a Beats integrated device. Many people don't care about Beats so they don't care about this device.

HTC / Verizon should market this phone as the superphone that it is... with Beats being an added extra. I don't listen to much of my music on my phone (I mostly stream Sirius) so Beats is a non-issue to me.

I actually like Sense 3.5 and I see absolutely no lag on the Rezound. Even with stock everything, I found the Rezound to be snappier than the Nexus.
 
I was waiting and waiting for the Galaxy Nexus like most of you. When comparing the two phones I decided I preferred the Rezound's screen with more ppi. The Rezound screen just looked sharper at all brightness settings. The phone's camera was important to me since I like to take snapshots of the kids, and when comparing shots taken on the Rezound and the GN the GN camera was mediocre at best, while the photos on the Rezound drew oohs and ahhs for it's crispness. I decided I liked having a 32GB removable SD card making the Rezound a 48GB phone vs the non removable 32 GB on the GN that is not mountable as a mass storage device. I personally don't buy a phone based on the sound it produces, but I will say that the $100 I got selling the earbuds that came with the Rezound on eBay was a nice bonus. Another very important factor for me is battery life. Every single 4g phone eats batteries up like no tomorrow (literally, your phone won't last till tomorrow). I like that the Rezound has an extended battery available that boosts it's power to 2750mAh. With this extended battery the Rezound lasts from 6:30am till Midnite when I go to bed, and I still have 3 out of 10 bars of battery power left. If I don't put it on the charger at night there will still be power left in the morning. Keep in mind I use the phone heavily, brightness on high, downloading apps and streaming videos, playing games, having long conversations talking and texting. Lastly, although the Rezound is thicker, especially with the extended battery and case, it feels so solid and well built. The GN really does feel cheap and plasticy. The Rezound feels much better in my hand, and one handed operation is easily accomplished, whereas the GN feels to thin and wide to hold in a natural way.

To summarize, the Rezound has a better screen, better camera, more storage (thats removable), better battery life (with extended battery), better build quality, and feels better in my hand. Will I be returning it to by the GN? No, I'm not into downgrading.

Some people will say they prefer super amoled pentile display to the slcd display. Some people will say they don't care about the camera since they don't take photos with their phone. Some people will say 32GB is enough storage. Some people will say battery life doesn't matter since they are always somewhere to plug in. Some people will say they prefer thinness of their phone, and are willing to sacrifice build quality to achieve thinness. To those people I will say, Enjoy your Galaxy Nexus!
 
Yet nobody wants to answer the big question: what is innovative about the Nexus?



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Its sole purpose is to be the hardware platform for software innovation. . .

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I was waiting and waiting for the Galaxy Nexus like most of you. When comparing the two phones I decided I preferred the Rezound's screen with more ppi. The Rezound screen just looked sharper at all brightness settings. The phone's camera was important to me since I like to take snapshots of the kids, and when comparing shots taken on the Rezound and the GN the GN camera was mediocre at best, while the photos on the Rezound drew oohs and ahhs for it's crispness. I decided I liked having a 32GB removable SD card making the Rezound a 48GB phone vs the non removable 32 GB on the GN that is not mountable as a mass storage device. I personally don't buy a phone based on the sound it produces, but I will say that the $100 I got selling the earbuds that came with the Rezound on eBay was a nice bonus. Another very important factor for me is battery life. Every single 4g phone eats batteries up like no tomorrow (literally, your phone won't last till tomorrow). I like that the Rezound has an extended battery available that boosts it's power to 2750mAh. With this extended battery the Rezound lasts from 6:30am till Midnite when I go to bed, and I still have 3 out of 10 bars of battery power left. If I don't put it on the charger at night there will still be power left in the morning. Keep in mind I use the phone heavily, brightness on high, downloading apps and streaming videos, playing games, having long conversations talking and texting. Lastly, although the Rezound is thicker, especially with the extended battery and case, it feels so solid and well built. The GN really does feel cheap and plasticy. The Rezound feels much better in my hand, and one handed operation is easily accomplished, whereas the GN feels to thin and wide to hold in a natural way.

To summarize, the Rezound has a better screen, better camera, more storage (thats removable), better battery life (with extended battery), better build quality, and feels better in my hand. Will I be returning it to by the GN? No, I'm not into downgrading.

Some people will say they prefer super amoled pentile display to the slcd display. Some people will say they don't care about the camera since they don't take photos with their phone. Some people will say 32GB is enough storage. Some people will say battery life doesn't matter since they are always somewhere to plug in. Some people will say they prefer thinness of their phone, and are willing to sacrifice build quality to achieve thinness. To those people I will say, Enjoy your Galaxy Nexus!

I agree with everything you said. I have the extended battery and actually prefer the feel of the phone over the stock battery.
 
You know what really makes me face palm about this thread is how this serves to affirm how bad thinking can be.

You will always look for a reason to confirm your own reasoning is sound. It doesn't matter that you came in "looking to get the Galaxy Nexus," you immediately found something to confirm the reasoning of why you bought a Rezound.

Why is the Nexus so good?

Super AMOLED HD Screen, with its resolution and size. Longer than most, but just as wide. Equal resolution to the Rezound, but if you look at a GN and rezound side by side you will see why.

Its the flagship. ICS is built off the OMAP structure. It will be easier for OMAP processors to tun ICS. What does the Rezound have? An S3 processor clocked at 1.5, which, like the S2, is a downgrade fron the Exeynos in the GS 2 international version. HTC willbhave a signficantly longer bake in time to get the S3 to play nice with ICS, as are the US GS 2's.

Lastly, its the first stock Android device since the OG Droid from 2009 on Verizon. If this isnt a selling ooint for you, why are you looking at a Nexus is the first place. Sense, TouchWiz and Blur are all watered down variants of the Android experience. If you enjoy them, thats cool, but that is the be alk end all for a Nexus user.

Come with rational reasoning, and be aware of your own faults. We all self decieve sometimes, but it isn't carte blanche for bad logic.
 
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You know what immediately confirmed the reasoning of why I bought the Rezound? The device itself. You might say the processor is better on the GN, and maybe it is, but I know you couldn't notice a difference in performance between the GN and the Rezound at all when performing tasks. I agree that the Rezound should have the option of turning off Sense, and removing any app that you consider bloatware. I think having the choice is important. That being said, I wouldn't say that using a skin is watering down an operating system, and in many cases it is definitely enhancing it. I also must say that this is my first phone that has the Sense skin, and I find it much more polished than vanilla android. Neither the Sense skin, nor any of the preloaded applications have affected the Rezounds performance negatively in a way that could be noticed. Everything is as snappy and smooth as it could be. I will say on the other hand that vanilla ICS on the GN felt very disjointed. On some screens the buttons for commands were on the top and other screens it was on the bottom. I'm sure over time people could get used to it, but more likely ICS will be updated and improved after hearing customer feedback.
 
You know what immediately confirmed the reasoning of why I bought the Rezound? The device itself. You might say the processor is better on the GN, and maybe it is, but I know you couldn't notice a difference in performance between the GN and the Rezound at all when performing tasks. I agree that the Rezound should have the option of turning off Sense, and removing any app that you consider bloatware. I think having the choice is important. That being said, I wouldn't say that using a skin is watering down an operating system, and in many cases it is definitely enhancing it. I also must say that this is my first phone that has the Sense skin, and I find it much more polished than vanilla android. Neither the Sense skin, nor any of the preloaded applications have affected the Rezounds performance negatively in a way that could be noticed. Everything is as snappy and smooth as it could be. I will say on the other hand that vanilla ICS on the GN felt very disjointed. On some screens the buttons for commands were on the top and other screens it was on the bottom. I'm sure over time people could get used to it, but more likely ICS will be updated and improved after hearing customer feedback.

and this is where ICS falls short, but the plus side it will be addressed and sent to owners of the nexus.

Still won't stop me from buying what feels better to me- and that is the rezound
 
I think the Rezound should have been marketed as the next generation Incredible, personally. I remember the hype around the Incredible and that phone garnered a huge following, many of whom purchased on release and their upgrades coincided with these big three releases. I said in another post that the Rezound is the Incredible on crack. It really is a natural progression from the DInc. And, I knew from day 1 with the Incredible that it would easily make it to my next upgrade. I wasn't disappointed and probably could have gone another 6 months with the phone if I had to. I feel the same way with the Rezound.

I agree that the beats marketing totally overshadowed the phone as the "next best thing". Was there a demand out there for studio quality sound? I don't think so. Was there a demand for super fast processor and outrageous screen quality? Yes.

Verizon missed the mark, but I can't help but think it was by design. Their marketing people can't be that out of touch.
 
For me personally, I have used Sense and have used stock Android and honestly it did not really matter to me. I mostly surf using Dolphin HD, check email and open apps. All this talk about Sense vs stock Android is way overblown in my book. But to each his own...The Rezound is super fast and has no lag with Sense. It's even better after removing the Verizon bloatware using CleanTool.
 
I don't find Sense to be a watered down variant... the others, yes. I find many of the 3rd party launchers and widgets try to mimic what HTC is doing. I personally started to get bored with vanilla android... but I am excited about ICS. I just felt like the Nexus device itself would have been a downgrade from the Rezound. I went in there with every intention of walking out with a Nexus. I was underwhelmed by the feel, display, camera, and snappiness of the Nexus. I don't know what else to tell you.
 
I have to agree with the comments on this.

I also purchased a Rezound over the Thanksgiving holiday for a steep discount.

My intention was to keep it until the Nexus came out, then return it to Amazon if I fell in love with the Nexus and was willing to part with the extra cash.

However, a funny thing happened.

I really like the Rezound and prefer it to the Nexus.

The camera situation really made the decision for me, I use my phone camera a LOT and need a good shooter.

After looking over dozens of shots from the nexus, and seeing how good the shots were from my Rezound I decided to keep it.

Add the awesome screen (a bit smaller, but still better than the Nexus), removable memory, and better build quality and I really couldn't see paying a premium price for the Nexus.

Sense 3.5 is butter smooth on the Rezound (as it should be with a 1.5 Ghz dual core and 1GB ram).

After seeing the Nexus in person and holding one, I'm staying a happy Rezound owner.

Even if it takes 6 months to get ICS, I'm not that concerned. The UI is so well optimized on the Rezound I don't really care when it happens.

To all the Nexus owners, enjoy your phone. You will certainly get the latest and greatest on the software side, but I'm happy with my Rezound and no longer the least bit jealous anymore.
 
Its sole purpose is to be the hardware platform for software innovation. . .

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So basically ICS and NFC? If the Nexus is sooo much better as some people would have it, its solely because of ICS. That's software which will be on the Rezound as well. Apps written for ICS will also eventually land on the Rezound.

Or looking at it another way, the playing field isn't level due to a piece of software slated for the Rezound in the future. So what happens when the playing field gets levelled?

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You know what really makes me face palm about this thread is how this serves to affirm how bad thinking can be.

You will always look for a reason to confirm your own reasoning is sound. It doesn't matter that you came in "looking to get the Galaxy Nexus," you immediately found something to confirm the reasoning of why you bought a Rezound.

Why is the Nexus so good?

Super AMOLED HD Screen, with its resolution and size. Longer than most, but just as wide. Equal resolution to the Rezound, but if you look at a GN and rezound side by side you will see why.

Its the flagship. ICS is built off the OMAP structure. It will be easier for OMAP processors to tun ICS. What does the Rezound have? An S3 processor clocked at 1.5, which, like the S2, is a downgrade fron the Exeynos in the GS 2 international version. HTC willbhave a signficantly longer bake in time to get the S3 to play nice with ICS, as are the US GS 2's.

Lastly, its the first stock Android device since the OG Droid from 2009 on Verizon. If this isnt a selling ooint for you, why are you looking at a Nexus is the first place. Sense, TouchWiz and Blur are all watered down variants of the Android experience. If you enjoy them, thats cool, but that is the be alk end all for a Nexus user.

Come with rational reasoning, and be aware of your own faults. We all self decieve sometimes, but it isn't carte blanche for bad logic.

Thought I'd throw my 2 cents in here...
Firstly, the back coming off the phone because of the security device is a non-issue. Nothing wrong with the phone in that respect. That's just a product of the stupid security device.

I came from an OG Droid (vanilla Android) with no experience (or desire to experience) Sense or MotoBlur, etc. From what I read, I really wanted the Nexus. Though my OG Droid was giving me fits and I needed a more reliable phone for a trip 3 weeks ago. So with the extended return policy I bought a Rezound expecting to replace it with the Nexus when it came out. Sense added some cool things, but overall I didn't like it and immediately replaced the Sense launcher with ADW.

So, yesterday I went to check out the GN expecting that I would go home, back up and box up the Rezound and then go back to the store to exchange. However, I was significantly underwhelmed. I greatly prefer the Rezound screen (GN colors are over-saturated) and overall size. Video was better on the Rezound. Browser experience was pretty even. Phone reception was better on the Rezound. UI experience was a mix. I liked that GN didn't have a skin, but at the same time I found the soft buttons frustrating ("Where's the search button?", etc.).

I wasn't some HTC-devotee considering the GN. If anything the GN should have been the best successor to the OG Droid. But I think they missed the mark. The GN has some great features (ICS) and abilities (unlockable, open to custom ROMs, etc). But I feel the Rezound is a better phone in the areas that really matter: phone reception, experience, look, and feel. Performance (speed) wise I don't tell a difference.

But that's me. Everyone has their preferences and priorities. I think they're both great phones. However I think the GN is being overhyped. And at the same time the Rezound is being underhyped (or perhaps being hyped for the wrong reason (Beats Audio)).

(I have further comparison thoughts here.)
 
You know what really makes me face palm about this thread is how this serves to affirm how bad thinking can be.

Its the flagship. ICS is built off the OMAP structure. It will be easier for OMAP processors to tun ICS. What does the Rezound have? An S3 processor clocked at 1.5, which, like the S2, is a downgrade fron the Exeynos in the GS 2 international version. HTC willbhave a signficantly longer bake in time to get the S3 to play nice with ICS, as are the US GS 2's.

I cringe, CRINGE! Each time some says the Nexus is a "flagship." It's not, please, please, stop saying it is.
Google is not a manufacturer, Samsung is.
It's a fact, not opinion, that Samsung's "flagship" is the Galaxy S2. Just because this has the latest OS, does not make it a flagship. Samsung will push this phone about as hard as it pushed the Charge, because it's true priority is the Galaxy S2.
 
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I cringe, CRINGE! Each time some says the Nexus is a "flagship." It's not, please, please, stop saying it is.
Google is not a manufacturer, Samsung is.
It's a fact, not opinion, that Samsung's "flagship" is the Galaxy S2. Just because this has the latest OS, does not make it a flagship. Samsung will push this phone about as hard as it pushed the Charge, because it's true priority is the Galaxy S2.

Agreed. Google chooses the manufacturer, Carriers bid on the device and all three work together to make something "wonderful". Problem is that sometimes the harmonic lovemaking of Google, a carrier, and manufacturer is interrupted by greed and jealousy, then Sammy gets punched in the stomach and delivers a partially aborted fetus named Galaxy Nexus.

Don't know where that came from but I thought it was funny. Anyway the Nexus is just meant to show off Google's latest and greatest. It should hold no bearing on the manufacturer or carrier(the way Nexus was intended), and why Google should commission these devices themselves(in GSM and CDMA) and sell them direct again.
 
Like several others on this thread, I intended my recent purchase to be a "Rent a Rezound" until the Nexus came out, but fell in love with the phone. I went today to see the Nexus, still half expecting I'd end up exchanging and was surprised at how much I still preferred the Rezound:

Screen: Both displays are lovely, but my preference is definitely for the less vivid colors of the Rez. I was looking at a story on nytimes.com with a picture of a boy in a bright yellow raincoat and it looked almost over-saturated to me on the GN, and I still preferred the Rez, which was colorful without being YELLOWYELLOWYELLOW.

Browser performance in terms of page scrolling seemed almost identical. When zoomed in I thought text looked a bit better on the Rez, and when looking closely the pentile on the GN was visible, albeit not very bothersome.

Signal strength: from the exact same spot in the store the GN was getting 2 bars 4G for awhile then dropped to 3G while I was playing around with it. My Rez was mostly at 4 bars 4G the whole time, and dropped to 2 bars briefly. Both were very slow on speedtest (boo!) on 4G, but the Rez was around 2.4Mbps and the GN at 1.2. (Not sure why 4G was so crappy in downtown Boston, but the Rez was clearly handling it better.) I know individual phones can vary, but that didn't sit well.

Sense itself: yes it's heavy, but the Rez can handle it, with minimal lag, and for me the visual goodies make up for it. Maybe I'll lose those depending on how HTC decides to implement ICS on the Rez, but for now I have a new appreciation for all the eye-candy when looking at the stripped down ICS. Yes ICS was fast and slick, but Sense on the Rez wasn't much slower at all.

Hand feel: I can see how fans of sleek and light would much prefer the GN, but once again I was surprised at how much I preferred the Rezound. I love the textured back, and thought it fit my hand better in comparison. Of course I think habit and what you're used to affect this very subjective topic, but I thought I'd have been more attracted to the thinness and lightness, but wasn't.

So, it's no question for me, I'm sticking with the Rezound. The Galaxy Nexus has lots going for it, and depending on personal priorities and preferences I can understand someone falling in love with it, but I'm happily keeping what I've got. (And I am ALWAYS looking for the next great thing, so rarely find myself saying that. Rarely.)
 
Two other quick things for people to bear in mind. The colors on the AMOLED screens can be easily adjusted, so the over saturation some don't like is a non issue. Also, when comparing reception, please stop talking about bars. Those bars mean almost nothing.
 
I traded my Rezound in for a Nexus and I couldn't be happier. I liked a few things about the Rezound better than the Nexus like the auto brightness and the lock screen. ICS is seriously awesome. Sure, everything else will eventually get their own flavor of ICS. But I love knowing that this was the phone that Google intended the world to have. Everything else will just follow in the GN's footsteps.

But it's not just software. I love how the Nexus feels in my hand. It's big, but not gigantic. It's thin, but not RAZR thin (read: too thin). It's very very light. I can't believe there's a battery in there!! The Rezound felt very nice too. The heft made it feel like a serious phone, but not so far to make it a brick. It felt like a man's device, but somehow wore its weight better than my wife's iPhone. Side by side, the Rezound almost felt lighter. But the Nexus still has it beat. It's perfectly weighted like a Samurai sword. I like the Rezound's "rubber" soft plastic backing. It was very grippy and felt very secure. I could put it on my lap while driving and not worry about it sliding off. The Nexus feels equally premium, but it is definitely more slippery.

I enjoyed my time with the Rezound. It's a wonderful device and you should be very very proud to own one. but personally my Rezound's back cover never quite fit right. If I held the phone tight enough especially around the edges, it creaked and squeaked like an early 90's Chevy Cavalier. The Nexus is as tight a Navy submarine. When checking it out for the first time, my wife took the back cover off of the Rezound herself with in seconds. It took her a couple minutes with the Nexus (yes I let my wife play with my phones) It's flush and solid that she even asked if it's non-removable. Only a discreet tab at the top gives away the secret entry. You can press on the phone all you want and she'll never make a peep. There's a slight rattle coming from around the camera, but I'm not sure what's causing the noise. I don't think it's the cover. It sounds like something is loose inside, but it's only when I give the phone a little tap so maybe it is the cover. It's a little disconcerning...

Anyway, the store's demo Nexus may have had a poor fitting cover because it is a floor model. With a security device attached to the back and plenty of people carlessly pulling on it, I don't doubt that it eventually pops off. The should glue that sucker down to avoid giving poeple the wrong idea. But my opinion is that my Nexus may be made mostly of plastic, but it feel much more business like and premium than the slightly squeaky, perhaps portly Rezound. I would rather have a lighter phone than a super chunky one that's still made mostly of plastic.
 
Two other quick things for people to bear in mind. The colors on the AMOLED screens can be easily adjusted, so the over saturation some don't like is a non issue.

How can they be adjusted? I looked and looked and found now way to adjust them.