[Instruction] How to get a new phone and keep (legacy) Unlimited Data on Verizon

[Cozume]

Re: Verizon: How to keep Unlimited Data and get phone on subsidized price.

Took me literally 5 seconds to activate my phone with my old sim.

Could you post a screen shot of your contract end date and your unlimited data? You can black out your phone number or any identifying info. I can walk you through it if you need me to. Thanks!

 

[budmonster]

Bestbuy Mobile Lets me Keep Unlimited Data on Verizon?

That is correct.

But of course, then you will need to activate the new smartphone on the dumbphone line, pick the 2GB data plan, then put the dumbphone back on the line and drop the data plan and then reactivate the new smartphone on your UDP line. It is all outlined in that thread I linked to above.

In addition, every 2 years you will get upgrades on the dumbphone lines, also. I suggest you use those upgrades to purchase new iPhones and sell the new iPhones to recoup the costs of the dumbphone lines. As you and I are now aware, Apple can limit the number of iPhones you can purchase so keep that in mind when you do. You may have to wait to use a dumbphone upgrade due to the limits. Or perhaps you can just use your parent's credit card to do the purchase of 1 of the iPhones and then pay them back. I would not buy an Android phone to resell due to the fact that the Androids do not have as high of a resale value as the iPhones.

Yeah I won't bother you again until one of our phones are due for an upgrade lol. Anyways, yeah I won't purchase an Android again, I'll probably just keep it. I had no choice really. I sold the 5c for $450 in the 3 days. Moto X is still waiting for its home.

 

[Cozume]

Re: Bestbuy Mobile Lets me Keep Unlimited Data on Verizon?

Yeah I won't bother you again until one of our phones are due for an upgrade lol. Anyways, yeah I won't purchase an Android again, I'll probably just keep it. I had no choice really. I sold the 5c for $450 in the 3 days. Moto X is still waiting for its home.

That's a great price for the 5c! And the Moto X is one heck of a phone, but because of all of the sales you could have done better selling an LG G2.

 

[budmonster]

Bestbuy Mobile Lets me Keep Unlimited Data on Verizon?

That's a great price for the 5c! And the Moto X is one heck of a phone, but because of all of the sales you could have done better selling an LG G2.

Well I really only pocket $400. I sold it for $450...

Swappa takes out $10...
PayPal took out $13.28...
Shipping w/ the special options I have to select to comes to like $20 something.

There is so much competition on Swappa and Craigslist was a nightmare lol. One guy actually started fighting with me bc he said my prices where to high. I'm glad I saved it, it's the best convo ever! If I would of known the g2 was $50 I would of got it. I think the Moto X and G2 where the only ones that came to being free after the $50 coupon.

Edit: I forgot to ask. I got the 5c on 2/2 and once I got home I tuned the phone off and activated that basic phone on that line. Will the buyer have any trouble activating it? What does he have to do? I do know he has to call AppleCare to get the warranty put in his name bc once I left best buy the warranty started.

 

[Cozume]

Re: Bestbuy Mobile Lets me Keep Unlimited Data on Verizon?

Well I really only pocket $400. I sold it for $450...

Swappa takes out $10...
PayPal took out $13.28...
Shipping w/ the special options I have to select to comes to like $20 something.

yeah, that is how it works out but at least it will cover the cost of one of your parent's phones for the life of the 2 year contract and then some.

Edit: I forgot to ask. I got the 5c on 2/2 and once I got home I tuned the phone off and activated that basic phone on that line. Will the buyer have any trouble activating it?

Nope. Once it is off of your line, anyone can activate it on Verizon on their line as long as you didn't report it lost or stolen, which you didn't. Swappa only lets you list devices with clean ESNs that is why you had to type the IMEI into the Swappa site - to verify it was a clean ESN.

Actually, with the Verizon iPhones, they are GSM SIM unlocked so you can activate them on any GSM carrier, too. It is only Sprint or other CDMA carriers that are a problem. And for other GSM carriers, you have to know whether the US iPhone LTE bands will work with the GSM carrier's LTE bands. I know the iPhone 5s will give you LTE for ATT and TMobile, but not sure about international GSM carriers.

What does he have to do?

Pop his SIM card in it or if he doesn't have one, go to Verizon and get one or order one from Verizon online. If you didn't take your SIM card out of it, he can reprogram your SIM card for his account. It is best to ship them without your SIM card in them, though.

I do know he has to call AppleCare to get the warranty put in his name bc once I left best buy the warranty started.

With Apple the warranty goes with the device so he doesn't need to do that. They can tell from the IMEI when the device was purchased. As long as you haven't reported the device as lost or stolen, Apple doesn't care who brings a device to them for service and neither does Verizon.

 

[budmonster]

Re: Bestbuy Mobile Lets me Keep Unlimited Data on Verizon?

yeah, that is how it works out but at least it will cover the cost of one of your parent's phones for the life of the 2 year contract and then some.

Nope. Once it is off of your line, anyone can activate it on Verizon on their line as long as you didn't report it lost or stolen, which you didn't. Swappa only lets you list devices with clean ESNs that is why you had to type the IMEI into the Swappa site - to verify it was a clean ESN.

Actually, with the Verizon iPhones, they are GSM SIM unlocked so you can activate them on any GSM carrier, too. It is only Sprint or other CDMA carriers that are a problem. And for other GSM carriers, you have to know whether the US iPhone LTE bands will work with the GSM carrier's LTE bands. I know the iPhone 5s will give you LTE for ATT and TMobile, but not sure about international GSM carriers.

Pop his SIM card in it or if he doesn't have one, go to Verizon and get one or order one from Verizon online. If you didn't take your SIM card out of it, he can reprogram your SIM card for his account. It is best to ship them without your SIM card in them, though.


With Apple the warranty goes with the device so he doesn't need to do that. They can tell from the IMEI when the device was purchased. As long as you haven't reported the device as lost or stolen, Apple doesn't care who brings a device to them for service and neither does Verizon.

I didnt even know the 5c had a sim card lol. Your telling me to ship it without the SIM card and have him to go to a Verizon store and get a new sim then they can just activate it there? how do I get the sim card out, i didnt even know the iphone came apart.

about the apple warranty, i was told that by apple. but if your right that is one less thing he has to do.

edit: i just click reset on the iPhone to remove the old number and any settings that may be left on it from best buy activating it? also, if removing the sim card could possibly cause damage i wouldnt try it. im not so lucky.

 

[Cozume]

Re: Bestbuy Mobile Lets me Keep Unlimited Data on Verizon?

I didnt even know the 5c had a sim card lol.

All Verizon 4G LTE phones have SIM cards. That is how they authenticate to the netwok.

You telling me to ship it without the sim card and have him to goto a verizon store and get a new sim then they can just activate it there?

I take the SIM card out of mine because if the buyer doesn't know how to reprogram the SIM card for their account, it will show up on my account. Eventually the system kicks out SIM cards that have not be active in awhile, but yours was just activated so it will still be active and associated with your account. He can associate it with his account if he knows what he is doing, but if he doesn't, it could be a problem for you because it will put the 2GB data plan charges back on your account if he does it wrong. It can also kick your dad's phone off of the line and then it would have your dad's number ringing to the iPhone 5c you sold, using your voice minutes and charging you for data including any overages.

Now if that did happen, you just call Verizon and they can disassociate the SIM card from your account. They might even reverse any charges, too.

If the buyer doesn't live near a verizon corporate store, he can ask Verizon to mail a nano SIM card to him. Tell him to do that now if he needs to so that he will have a SIM card when he gets the phone. If he lives near a verizon corporate store, he can just go there and have them do it. Non-corporate verizon authorized dealers can charge for the SIM cards.

how do I get the sim card out, i didnt even know the iphone came apart.

it doesn't come apart. There is a SIM card tray that pops out of the side. You can use a small paperclip in the SIM card tray hole to pop the SIM card out.

Just type "removing SIM card iphone 5c" into an internet search engine and you will find videos on how to do it.

iPhone and iPad: How to remove the SIM card

Be sure and put the empty SIM card tray back in the iPhone. Verizon doesn't have SIM card trays to give out, just SIM cards.

about the apple warranty, i was told that by apple. but if your right that is one less thing he has to do.

he can call Apple if he wants to and give them his name, but the iPhone warranty goes with the device, not the owner. Note that this is different from many other manufacturers whose warranties are not transferable to new owners. Like Samsung. With Samsung products the warranty is not transferrable to a new owner unless a state law mandates it.

 

[budmonster]

Re: Bestbuy Mobile Lets me Keep Unlimited Data on Verizon?

All Verizon 4G LTE phones have SIM cards. That is how they authenticate to the netwok.


I take the SIM card out of mine because if the buyer doesn't know how to reprogram the SIM card for their account, it will show up on my account. Eventually the system kicks out SIM cards that have not be active in awhile, but yours was just activated so it will still be active and associated with your account. He can associate it with his account if he knows what he is doing, but if he doesn't, it could be a problem for you because it will put the 2GB data plan charges back on your account if he does it wrong. It can also kick your dad's phone off of the line and then it would have your dad's number ringing to the iPhone 5c you sold, using your voice minutes and charging you for data including any overages.

Now if that did happen, you just call Verizon and they can disassociate the SIM card from your account. They might even reverse any charges, too.

If the buyer doesn't live near a verizon corporate store, he can ask Verizon to mail a nano SIM card to him. Tell him to do that now if he needs to so that he will have a SIM card when he gets the phone. If he lives near a verizon corporate store, he can just go there and have them do it. Non-corporate verizon authorized dealers can charge for the SIM cards.


it doesn't come apart. There is a SIM card tray that pops out of the side. You can use a small paperclip in the SIM card tray hole to pop the SIM card out.

Just type "removing SIM card iphone 5c" into an internet search engine and you will find videos on how to do it.

iPhone and iPad: How to remove the SIM card

Be sure and put the empty SIM card tray back in the iPhone. Verizon doesn't have SIM card trays to give out, just SIM cards.


he can call Apple if he wants to and give them his name, but the iPhone warranty goes with the device, not the owner. Note that this is different from many other manufacturers whose warranties are not transferable to new owners. Like Samsung. With Samsung products the warranty is not transferrable to a new owner unless a state law mandates it.

ok, i just used the sim tool from that moto x to pop it open, you really got to push on it. anyways i took it out. i did a reset on phone before removing it. am i good to ship it now? is there anything i should do while am at ups? besides paying extra to make sure an adult signs for it. anything else i should do?

 

[M16Club]

Re: Verizon: How to keep Unlimited Data and get phone on subsidized price.

Awesome guys. Thanks a lot for all of the advice. I just cut my old SIM to form, put on the awesome new G2, and it immediately showed that my phone is already activated with my same number. I'll post the pdf proof later. (Attached now)

 

[Cozume]

Re: Bestbuy Mobile Lets me Keep Unlimited Data on Verizon?

ok, i just used the sim tool from that moto x to pop it open, you really got to push on it. anyways i took it out. i did a reset on phone before removing it. am i good to ship it now? is there anything i should do while am at ups? besides paying extra to make sure an adult signs for it. anything else i should do?

You put the SIM card tray back in right? And did a factory reset. That is all you need to do other than to insure it, ship it signature required and make sure you pack it so that if you have to make an insurance claim with UPS, your packing meets their guidelines.

I always insure for the full retail amount of the phone because if you had to replace it, that is what it would cost you.

 

[budmonster]

Re: Bestbuy Mobile Lets me Keep Unlimited Data on Verizon?

You put the SIM card tray back in right? And did a factory reset. That is all you need to do other than to insure it, ship it signature required and make sure you pack it so that if you have to make an insurance claim with UPS, your packing meets their guidelines.

I always insure for the full retail amount of the phone because if you had to replace it, that is what it would cost you.

so i inusre it for $549 which costs $5.49. i think the declared value box on ups/fedex is how it insure it. and then when i goto ups tomorrow i just tell them i need them to ship this phone but i need you to make the box meet your shipping guidelines? i already have a fedex box and giant piece of bubblewrap.

 

[Cozume]

Re: Bestbuy Mobile Lets me Keep Unlimited Data on Verizon?

so i inusre it for $549 which costs $5.49. i think the declared value box on ups/fedex is how it insure it. and then when i goto ups tomorrow i just tell them i need them to ship this phone but i need you to make the box meet your shipping guidelines? i already have a fedex box and giant piece of bubblewrap.

It is how you pack the phone that you place inside the box.

Here are UPS requirements:
UPS: How To Prepare for Shipping

Note: Fragile objects such as electronics, glass, ceramics, and artwork, require special packaging for safe shipment. Packages containing these and similar items may require added cushioning or a double (over) box.


I place my phones in their original box. Then I wrap that box in several layers of bubble wrap so that there is at least 2" of cushioning. Then place the bubble wrapped box in another box and fill with more bubblewrap so that there is no movement of the bubble wrapped box inside the outer box when I shake it.

I don't think UPS will accept a box with Fed Ex on it, but you can ask.

 

[budmonster]

Bestbuy Mobile Lets me Keep Unlimited Data on Verizon?

It is how you pack the phone that you place inside the box.

Here are UPS requirements:
UPS: How To Prepare for Shipping

Note: Fragile objects such as electronics, glass, ceramics, and artwork, require special packaging for safe shipment. Packages containing these and similar items may require added cushioning or a double (over) box.


I place my phones in their original box. Then I wrap that box in several layers of bubble wrap so that there is at least 2" of cushioning. Then place the bubble wrapped box in another box and fill with more bubblewrap so that there is no movement of the bubble wrapped box inside the outer box when I shake it.

I don't think UPS will accept a box with Fed Ex on it, but you can ask.

I'll just goto fedex tomorrow I don't think there is a big diff between ups and fed. I'm sure they have the bubble wrap and material I need I'll just have them do it. I wanted to save money using what I had but if it'll give me some peace of mind since it's going from coast to coast then I'll pay the extra.

 

[Cozume]

Re: Bestbuy Mobile Lets me Keep Unlimited Data on Verizon?

I'll just goto ups tomorrow. I'm sure they have the bubble wrap and material I need I'll just have them do it. I wanted to save money using what I had but if it'll give peace of mind since it's going from coast to coast then I'll pay the extra.

It's really not a big deal to do it yourself.

However, I believe when you have the UPS store pack it for you, they can't deny a claim based on poor packaging because they packed it. Those stores are franchies, btw, but the franchise owner has to have their own insurance on the services they sell, like the pack services. When you pay them to pack it, they are taking on the liability for the quality of the packaging. Double check to make sure, but that is how I understand it.

However, I would stand there and watch the guy pack it and seal the box before I would leave. Then you get a receipt with the tracking number on it.

 

[squirejohnson]

Re: [Instruction]How to Keep Unlimited Data on Verizon

I might as well post my scenario to see what others would recommend and ask a few questions.

I have a Droid Incredible (DINC). On a family share + Canada Plan that has UDP w/corp email for $44.99/mo & 250 texts for $5/mo. 11% voice access discount
Wife has LG enV?3, no data or texting
Extra line is LG VX8300 no data or texting

DINC is eligible for upgrade. Both LG's become eligible in mid May.



When I am done I want to have 2 smartphones using the same FamilyShare 1400 + Canada plan, both with texting. Whether I keep the 3rd line does not matter to me too much. Should it matter?

What I believe I should do is transfer the upgrade from the DINC Line to the LG enV?3 line. Buy a subsidized smartphone (Online, Costco, BestBuy) and do its activation on the LG enV?3 line. I then move the smartphone back to the "DINC" line, and make the LG enV?3 active again. This enables me to keep UDP on "DINC" line, which is my first goal. How do I then go about upgrading the LG enV?3 so it can have a smartphone with UDP? Repeat the process as above while using LG VX8300 line or is this not possible? My second goal is a 2nd smartphone with texting (UDP is obviously a nice to have) all while ideally not increasing monthly cost, but ideally lowering costs.

The DINC means I have no SIM card to transfer. To replace DINC I am looking at subsidized HTC One or full price Moto X. If I do full price Moto X will that help me get UDP on current LG enV?3 line? DINC is hard to charge and a bit glitchy, hence I cannot use that as the smartphone for the 2nd line.

 

[Cozume]

Re: [Instruction]How to Keep Unlimited Data on Verizon

Wife has LG enV?3, no data or texting

How do I then go about upgrading the LG enV?3 so it can have a smartphone with UDP?

You can't get a new UDP anymore. That is why those of us with UDPs are hanging onto them for dear life.

The only way to get an UDP is to buy one from someone else and do an AOL.

 

[Cozume]

Re: [Instruction]How to Keep Unlimited Data on Verizon

DINC is eligible for upgrade. Both LG's become eligible in mid May.

When I am done I want to have 2 smartphones using the same FamilyShare 1400 + Canada plan, both with texting. Whether I keep the 3rd line does not matter to me too much. Should it matter?

No, since your wife can't ever get an UDP on her current line, you can use her line for the upgrade transfers.

What I believe I should do is transfer the upgrade from the DINC Line to the LG enV?3 line. Buy a subsidized smartphone (Online, Costco, BestBuy) and do its activation on the LG enV?3 line. I then move the smartphone back to the "DINC" line, and make the LG enV?3 active again. This enables me to keep UDP on "DINC" line, which is my first goal.

That will work.

The DINC means I have no SIM card to transfer. To replace DINC I am looking at subsidized HTC One

The HTC One will come with a SIM card. Once you have transferred the DINC's upgrade to your wife's line, you can activate the HTC One on your wife's line and then put her LG enV?3 back on her line. Then put the HTC One on your line and you will keep your UDP.

or full price Moto X. If I do full price Moto X will that help me get UDP on current LG enV?3 line?

No. It is not possible to ever get an UDP on the current LG enV?3 line. You can buy someone else's UDP line and do an AOL and bring that line into your plan.

DINC is hard to charge and a bit glitchy, hence I cannot use that as the smartphone for the 2nd line.

Wait until May until your wife's line is due for an upgrade and get her a smartphone then. She will be able to get 2GB of data for $30 at that time.

 

[nia07]

Re: Verizon: How to keep Unlimited Data and get phone on subsidized price.

I am curious what is going on with upgrades. I have 4 phones, all droids on my account. One of us was told by a rep in a BB store yesterday, that we can upgrade and keep our UD plan. Has anyone been to a store and did this?

As far as online BB, I guess we can try it but I dont know if I want to risk it. I have the employee discount and UD so I REALLY don't want to lose this plan.

We have had to buy our phones outright (can you say cha-ching!!!) so all 4 lines are eligible for upgrades... what do you all think??

Also are there different unlimited data plans?? I know mine was a kick **** price...

here is one of my lines, all my 3 share lines are this price:

Monthly Charges

Line Access 01/11 - 02/10 $9.99
Email & Web Unlimited 01/11 - 02/10 $29.99
Talk & Text Plus Data $20 Disc 01/11 - 02/10 -$20.00

Monthly Charges

$19.98

Verizon Wireless Surcharges and Other Charges & Credits * $2.04
Taxes, Governmental Surcharges & Fees * $2.63
Total Charges for xxx xxx-xxxx $24.65


OH MY!! Hold the fort LOL

This whole thing made me look at my bill closely and I see they removed my line from the UDP back in August!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Holy moly!!! I lost my phone, had the insurance... and got it replaced.. with that they went and put me on a 2G plan!!! OH NO NO NO, I am so calling on this!!! I noticed my bill was up a bit but didn't look at it closely... my daughter is good for adding a few buck to it here and there lol.

Oh man her I go... I am sure I have a fight on my hands!!

 

[Cozume]

Re: Verizon: How to keep Unlimited Data and get phone on subsidized price.

I have 4 phones, all droids on my account. One of us was told by a rep in a BB store yesterday, that we can upgrade and keep our UD plan. Has anyone been to a store and did this?

No, impossible to upgrade directly on an UDP line in store and keep your UDP. Many BB employees don't know what they are talking about.

Do all of your 4 lines have UDPs? If not, then yes, you can transfer your upgrades to a line on the account without an UDP in store.

 

[nia07]

Re: Verizon: How to keep Unlimited Data and get phone on subsidized price.

No, impossible to upgrade directly on an UDP line in store and keep your UDP. Many BB employees don't know what they are talking about.

Do all of your 4 lines have UDPs? If not, then yes, you can transfer your upgrades to a line on the account without an UDP in store.

I figured that was a rep who didn't know better. I edit my OP... All 4 SHOULD have UD but I just found my line doesn't have UD!!! I am the main line on the acct! Now I am tempted to upgrade that phone... then squeal about their August screw up!!! Hmmmmmmmm