iPad Mini resolution no match for Nexus 7.

[Mongooze2]

While I am all for the discusion of the pros and cons of the device with respect to the N7, the fact that their stock price is following the current market trends, and that there is an improved iPad seems to have little bearing here.

I've seen you mention this bit about Apple stock following market trends a couple of times at least but that doesn't really make any sense. The market may be down but Google and Amazon stock are both up today.

Investors started to sell Apple as soon as the price was revealed. Most analysts had expected a much lower price point. So yeah, Wall Street and investors are concerned.

 

[MangoPowah]

Private schools? Perhaps. Public schools? Not any of the ones I know. Heck, most public school districts can barely afford 3 year old Dells. Where would they get the money to equip classrooms with miniature tablets?

The computer lab in elementary was chock full of Macs. And here I am in high school with Dells running XP.

To this day I still wonder how we managed to afford Macs back then.

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[Small_law]

When I got the Nexus 7, it felt to me like it was absolutely everything you need at minimum for an excellent experience: great internals, nice screen, no rear camera. The iPad felt like overkill: the display is awesome, but the size and cameras and build felt like it was too much for what this type of device needs.

And this type of device is basically for consumption. Google figured that out and it's where they took the Nexus 7. Apple for YEARS has been trying to pass iPad off as a productivity machine. Yes, it can create spreadsheets, but tablets shine when used for video, browsing, shopping, and games. Now it's as if Apple is saying "screw the productivity iWork stuff we've pushed on you. Here's the iPad Mini, use it for entertainment." It's a weird message and they've delivered a product that again feels like overkill, especially with that price point.

And if you have ever owned an iOS device, there is one fact that is incontrovertible: they age horribly. We in the Android community Are very used to seeing our devices get faster over time; my galaxy Nexus is better and faster than the day I bought it. Updates have crippled my fourth-generation iPod touch. The processor in the iPad mini is Apple's A5, which is a year old dual core Arm cortex A9 clocked at around 800 MHz with 512 mb of RAM. That isn't going to age well.

 

[badbrad17]

The computer lab in elementary was chock full of Macs. And here I am in high school with Dells running XP.

To this day I still wonder how we managed to afford Macs back then.

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Apple actually subsidized their computers in schools originally. They were pretty much giving them away to gain market share. Seems to have worked.

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[crackberrytraitor]

Apple actually subsidized their computers in schools originally. They were pretty much giving them away to gain market share. Seems to have worked.

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Apparently not, seeing as Apple has less than 7 percent of the traditional computer market.

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[shady28]

Really? The quad core n7 with higher specs for 1/4 the price is not going to be a good value? Come on be realistic. The ipad 3 may have good shelf life and it probably will but don't act like all android devices lose their usefulness just because they get updated more than apple products.

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Not sure where you got that from my post.

All I said was that the iPad Mini was sucky 2 year old tech, and that Android device makers have a deplorable record for patching / updating their devices (Apples record is superb).

I hate to just shut down debate, but the above 2 statements are hardly deniable.

N7 is clearly superior to the iPad Mini, but if you're comparing N7 to iPad 3 / 4 it makes me wonder if you're in some other forum somewhere debating about how much better a Mustang is vs a Grand Caravan...


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[GQ50]

Is anyone really satisfied with build quality of their N7 when you compare it side by side with an iPad?

Are you serious?! I appreciate your opinion on the iP/mini and it sounds like your sold on it but posting it in an N7 forum? Which if you are sold on it, great go for it. You've complained quite a bit about your Nexus problems, sell them. I have both the Nexus phone and 16 gig N7.. No issues/problems what so ever, with a power button or screen separation, etc...This is a N7 forum and just about everyone here luvs their N7 and for the most part happy with it..

 

[NoYankees44]

Just 2 things.

1 : iPad Mini = sucky 2 year old tech

2 : At least the iPad3 owners will get the latest iOS for another 2 or 3 years. Can't say that about most, if any, Android phones or tablets.




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Every current asus tablet will... And not just referring to the n7. My tf300 had jelly bean a month after it came out.

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[rc211]

I watched the live event today just to see how they would sell it. Its such a load of crap, the whole marketing of apple- myths and lies.

Like making things like friction welding, hybrid drives and mini pads something their engineers invented, made and brought to the world.
Its more like:
Hi fox conn can you get the imac thinner, call me back when you have some ideas.

Next call, Hi Samsung, can you make the display thinner, oh you are already- ok, whats the part number, right, I will get 10 million of those, send them over to fox conn. Thanks, bye.

iscam.
Sold my itouch after learning about the lightning and updates- kind of looking forward to getting the 32g nexus, pretty familiar with unix/linux- had the old sharp zaurus long time ago.

 

[ravenas]

I have a daughter who is a singer and I run a design business. Anyone trying to do this on a phone or tablet is an idiot. On a desktop computer there are many options on both systems that do this as well for free.

Absolutely true. I purchased GarageBand for my iPad2 (along with a ton of drawing and other so-called productivity apps). They were great as toys. For any real work I had to go to my trusty laptop. Closest I ever came to getting any real work done on a tablet was by using my Asus Transformer.

 

[badbrad17]

Absolutely true. I purchased GarageBand for my iPad2 (along with a ton of drawing and other so-called productivity apps). They were great as toys. For any real work I had to go to my trusty laptop. Closest I ever came to getting any real work done on a tablet was by using my Asus Transformer.

Ironically I have the Asus Transformer Prime and feel the same.

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[badbrad17]

Are you serious?! I appreciate your opinion on the iP/mini and it sounds like your sold on it but posting it in an N7 forum? Which if you are sold on it, great go for it. You've complained quite a bit about your Nexus problems, sell them. I have both the Nexus phone and 16 gig N7.. No issues/problems what so ever, with a power button or screen separation, etc...This is a N7 forum and just about everyone here luvs their N7 and for the most part happy with it..

Spend some time reading what this guy writes. You would swear he works for Apple... Oh wait... He does.

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[TomsAndroid]

I actually find it funny that Apple would release such a device. Sure the screen's bigger but it's lower resolution, an awkward aspect ratio for HD movies and it's also got a too-thin bezel and won't fit as easily into a pocket. I am kind of annoyed at that Phil Schiller made that comparison between the screens. He seems to make too many references to other devices in his presentations.

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[rc211]

I really think its going to be interesting, you have apple with the new ceo- Mr. recycle, and MS with their win8, which is pretty lame/inconsistent UI, specs & price creates a gap opening (wider) for android. I think apple can rest on its laurels for a couple yrs because MS is totally loosing it with Win8ME win8 on the OS side. But in the tablet space- they are really going to have to bring up their low end. For them to rip on nexus like that shows they are probably freaking out behind the scenes. it just shows now that the mini will be 2 yrs behind the development cycle- the OS is not that killer anymore, apps are pretty much the same for android.

If google can really keep the heat on for the next 2-3 yrs, great hardware, solidly advancing android- its scary where they can go with market share for tablet/cloud/phone devices.

 

[JustinMueller8810]

the wider screen means it wont fit in my pocket. Fail.

 

[cckgz4]

OH my. Things aren't looking too bright internet wise, but unfortunately the average consumer won't care

 

[crackberrytraitor]

I really think its going to be interesting, you have apple with the new ceo- Mr. recycle, and MS with their win8, which is pretty lame/inconsistent UI, specs & price creates a gap opening (wider) for android. I think apple can rest on its laurels for a couple yrs because MS is totally loosing it with Win8ME win8 on the OS side. But in the tablet space- they are really going to have to bring up their low end. For them to rip on nexus like that shows they are probably freaking out behind the scenes. it just shows now that the mini will be 2 yrs behind the development cycle- the OS is not that killer anymore, apps are pretty much the same for android.

If google can really keep the heat on for the next 2-3 yrs, great hardware, solidly advancing android- its scary where they can go with market share for tablet/cloud/phone devices.

As somebody who's used Windows since 3.1, I have to say that I totally disagree with you. Windows 8 is an improvement in every way. Those who absolutely fear change can simply install Start8 to bring back the classic start menu. I am totally dumbfounded as to why people are trash talking Win8.

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[badbrad17]

As somebody who's used Windows since 3.1, I have to say that I totally disagree with you. Windows 8 is an improvement in every way. Those who absolutely fear change can simply install Start8 to bring back the classic start menu. I am totally dumbfounded as to why people are trash talking Win8.

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I agree. I was playing it today at staples and thought it was cool. Especially when the touch screen laptops are more common you could toggle between the interfaces when working or browsing casually.

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[jrimmy91]

thats for sure!!! they say its "concentrated" lol there is no way to get around it being smaller. they love to make these huge speeches to build up what is not very much better...its sad that they haave to actually attack the N7 now, They find it a threat now lol!!!!!

 

[cormaster628]

As somebody who's used Windows since 3.1, I have to say that I totally disagree with you. Windows 8 is an improvement in every way. Those who absolutely fear change can simply install Start8 to bring back the classic start menu. I am totally dumbfounded as to why people are trash talking Win8.

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I agree. I was a big critic of windows 8 untill I watched some videos, one of it running on an old celeron based laptop, and one on a tegra powered tablet. Very impressed overall, it's windows simplified. It's the offspring of windows 7 and android in about every way and brings a new level of computing to arm tablets. As cool as the ipad and nexus7 are, they both seem like oversized phones in comparison. You figure both ios and android were designed for phones then tweaked for tablets. Windows 8 was built for pcs and tablets from the get go so you get a much more overall pc experience

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