Iphone 4 "best smartphone available"

Can't agree or disagree with the comments from Engadget since I haven't played with an Iphone 4 yet but i know i wouldn't get one because my number 1 priority is service and AT&T sucks where i'm at.
 
It's a personal decision. It's like saying a car is the best out there. Some people will say the best sports car is the Vette, others will say it's a 911, others will say it is a ......
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as a corvette owner i would say corvette is the best. lol

but onto the pressing matter @hand...

iphone is nothing new. we all know this. every in the know , knows this. but for the average person, they hear new iphone? man i gotta have it. because that is the way the masses used to move. i personally boycott everything apple. its my personal opinion. i like to be able to do what i want to all my devices. xbox,zune,xbox360, evo, pre, hell my computer. with that being said, fan boy's will continue to place their beloved icrap above their own mother. this also is nothing new. we should expect that.
to summarize, if like the previous post said if you take away the apps you have an ipod touch. nothing really spectacular about that. and does anyone really need a gazillion apps. most are dbls if not triple of the same app. and most are useless by the masses anyway.
i just switched from the pre and i am amazed by android and the possibilities. i can choose what i want from my phone. i can choose how i want my phone to look and feel.
so i choose not to be a fan boi.

I CHOOSE YOU ANDROID!
 
What do you guys think about this statement made by engadget in the review of the iPhone 4. I personally have had every model of the iphone up untill the Evo came out and I switched. I cant see myself going back to the iphone after using the Evo and android. What about you guys though?

See my sig for my answer.

But Engadget never met an Apple product they didn't like. Expecting an unbiased review of any Apple product, or any product that competes with Apple, is just silly.
 
as a corvette owner i would say corvette is the best. lol

but onto the pressing matter @hand...

iphone is nothing new. we all know this. every in the know , knows this. but for the average person, they hear new iphone? man i gotta have it. because that is the way the masses used to move. i personally boycott everything apple. its my personal opinion. i like to be able to do what i want to all my devices. xbox,zune,xbox360, evo, pre, hell my computer. with that being said, fan boy's will continue to place their beloved icrap above their own mother. this also is nothing new. we should expect that.
to summarize, if like the previous post said if you take away the apps you have an ipod touch. nothing really spectacular about that. and does anyone really need a gazillion apps. most are dbls if not triple of the same app. and most are useless by the masses anyway.
i just switched from the pre and i am amazed by android and the possibilities. i can choose what i want from my phone. i can choose how i want my phone to look and feel.
so i choose not to be a fan boi.

I CHOOSE YOU ANDROID!

I think you meant to say "take away the PHONE and you have an ipod touch"

Right?
 
See my sig for my answer.

But Engadget never met an Apple product they didn't like. Expecting an unbiased review of any Apple product, or any product that competes with Apple, is just silly.

To be fair...how often does Apple make a flat out BAD product?

Not often....it may not be what we need, or someone else needs...but you can't deny Apple makes high quality products (mostly) with great UI.

Their "worst" product in recent years was Apple TV...and even then it was just bad because of lack of features per price.
 
I don't understand why people still get so worked up about the iPhone. Who cares what some website thinks?

At this point, the playing field has become so leveled (especially with the Android phones in the pipe for this summer) that the iPhone is more one of many choices opposed to being the superior device the past few years.

Honestly, what does the iPhone do that can't be equaled or bested by another phone? And things like "the UI is smoother" don't count as that's more of a personal preference.
 
My personal thought about the iPhone, it is a nice phone, nice design. With new enhancements for Apple but these are old for the rest of us in the real world. Take example of creating folders, we in the Android, RIM and Windows are able to do this long time ago, this is nothing new to us, but for the iPhone fan boys this is an entirely new concept and they make it seem like they are the ones who invented it and none of us have that function. Now let move on to multi tasking, we in the Android world had this for quite some time, and the people over at Palm do it better than anyone else, again Apple made it seem like they also invented this, and how about the front face camera, if I remember correctly HTC EVO was first, but not in Apple world, in the Apple world they invented that to. If you go by the Apple world they basically invented the entire Smartphone concept and all other companies should close their doors right now and all should go home. And we all should go buy iPhone because G-d himself came down and created it. I like the design of the phone but please iphone fan boys and all there bias sites should really pay attention what is going on in the real world and not in the apple world.
What apple is releasing now we had long time ago and this is nothing new to me, my friend has the iphone 3GS and he was totally blown away by multi tasking and folder creation, I told him dude chill it is nothing new to Android world, his reply was don?t be hating, how dumb is that comeback? Don?t get me wrong it is solid phone with lot of pros and cons, but by the bias site they don?t list any cons. I find that little frustrating and totally stupid. I like my Android and the power of doing what I need to do. If you remove all the apps from apple, what will you have? You will have iPod / dumb phone.

Don't forget that they also invented MMS not too long ago :p
 
I think one thing we don't discuss enough regarding the differences between the two phones is information. My only issue with iOS4 is I have to access everything through apps. If I need information I have go into an app to get it. With Android all the information YOU deem as important can be present to you on a home screen in many different formats through widgets. No need to go into an app or to wait for a notification in some cases. I don't think this difference is expressed enough.
 
Apple makes a good product but i like my EVO. 4.3" display, Sprint network/pricing, open/flexible/customizable OS/platform, tight integration with Google/Gmail, removable storage, removable battery. these are all things important to me that iPhone does not have.

NAILED IT + I don't have to be a brain washed apple fan boy drinking steve job's koolaid... and living by his rules at all times.
 
To be fair...how often does Apple make a flat out BAD product

Yikes, you have selective memory. Apple has a history of major fail. IPhone has bailed their asses off. Basically, they are a phone manufacturing company right now. Be wary of going long AAPL. If anything, if you want to make money - big money, have a good stockbroker that will let you go short.
 
I'm sure this iPhone just like the past iPhones will be a great product. Apple hit gold by making a smartphone OS watered down enough that the general population gets how to use it. It's almost fool proof.. For most the iPhone was their first "smartphone". We all know it'll sell millions and is made from unicorn tears. However for those of us that demand more from our phones at least we have options. So for the next month or so all we'll hear about will be the new iPhone and how great it is. But that news will soon fade in the tech world with the on going release of stellar Android devices :)
 
Saying something is the best can be subjective. But in this case, it's demonstrated by its success.

I say the Treo Form-Factor was the best. It didn't get seen that way by the majority of people.

From my research, I'm seeing android as the possible best choice for me.

Someone made a comment in another thread that if the iPhone had also been on Verizon and Sprint, Android would of gotten very little attention.
 
I think its safe to say, that the iPhone is better catered to the masses (less customization, user-friendly, looks "sleek") but for all of us techies its just not enough. And this has always been their marketing strategy. Personally I dont need someone to hold my hand to use a smart-phone and I choose android for that very reason. If you have any computer/technical inclination Android is generally a better platform for those users.

As a side note: Why bother reading Endgadget any more, if they are so biased, I know I stopped. Being a tech blog you would think they would be pro-customization / technical reader base rather than most apple users who barely know how to use a computer. But thats what they wanted and I dont blame the average person for not wanting alot of things to figure out, just to use their computer.
 
Can I use it as a mountable drive?
Can I remove the battery if necessary?
Can I upgrade my memory card?
Can I even use a memory card?
Does it have widgets?

I wouldn't call it the best smartphone available. It does look pretty, though.
 
To be honest I'd have an iPhone if they had released it on Sprint a couple of years ago. Now that I know the other options, I don't know if I could go with the lack of customization.
 
To be honest I'd have an iPhone if they had released it on Sprint a couple of years ago. Now that I know the other options, I don't know if I could go with the lack of customization.

You said it, the iphone is the smartest dumb phone there is.
 
The Iphone 4 is a very nice phone. So is the Evo. So is the Incredible. So it the Droid X. So is the Pre (even if outdated at this point). I'll take the EVO and, probably, will never get an Iphone (unless Apple changes much of what it stands for). For ME, the EVO is the best phone available. For the Topolsky, the Engadget reviewer, the Iphone is the best phone available. That's ok. I don't mind that he likes that phone.

On the other hand, talking about how amazing face time is so amazing, when it's a gimped version of what EVO and other phone users already have, is pretty ridiculous.
 

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