Is the camera any better?

I was thinking if you go to a ball game ,concert,out door want to zoom in on something far . Stuff like that

Yes I do that often when I go to events, even if the 30 times zoom is really good it's already much more than what most have now
 
You guys talking about zoom and ball games are gonna love this phone. 30X is quite clear (conditions do factor in but not in a make or break capacity in my testing so far). Also 30x is shakier than what youre used to on - draw, point and shoot, but like...physics or whatever.

Another thing that is interesting is if you are manually zooming through the lenses with the "scroll bar" things like 28.5 come out damn near the same as 30 but, to me and again subjectively, the movement caused by the zoom is noticeably less.

Something cool about the hardware is how recessed the Space Zoom camera is. Like when you hold it and look at a slight angle that lens is IN there. It almost looks like it is flush with the body and that the camera bump is just filled with glass for refraction (i think that is what Bader was saying they do on ACP a few episodes ago).

Battery life seems legit as well. Had on 120 refresh was shooting all day from like 10 to 7 watching videos, showing off results to friends...phone didnt come out of the tin at 100% and was at like 52 when I had to give it back, which was like a scene from a movie about a boy and a dog where he has to take the dog out back and say "g'on then geet, nobody 'ants ya," as he chokes back tears. lol Of course take this with a grain of salt, there were no accounts logged into or anything, had great service everywhere. But its promising in so far as "should at least get me through the day."
 
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I was thinking if you go to a ball game ,concert,out door want to zoom in on something far . Stuff like that

Smaller sensor and aperture when zoomed in I doubt it will provide good results at a concert, the main sensor struggles as is with those conditions.

Sports games I'm sure it'll do great, should also work decently for bird photography and anything outdoors in day light.
 
Smaller sensor and aperture when zoomed in I doubt it will provide good results at a concert, the main sensor struggles as is with those conditions.

Sports games I'm sure it'll do great, should also work decently for bird photography and anything outdoors in day light.
Yeah , but looks like going be a very camera .
 
I've watched a couple of videos and from what I can see the s20+ seems to be not as good as iPhone 11 and the pixel 4

This alone maybe enough for me to say no thank you this year.

I'll await more comparisons, but do far in not sure the camera is any better than my s10+

Anybody what think so?

Whenever possible, always check out the device in person. I was playing around with the camera of the S20 at a local Best Buy store. The Samsung sales rep told me the camera has a 100X zoom. I asked her if that meant 100X optical, which I doubt, or digital zoom, or a combination of both. She didn't know the answer. So many of those Samsung reps working at the Samsung booth of a Best Buy store are usually clueless cuz they just "graduated" from Samsung training school. I usually know way more than any of those revolving Samsung reps. I say revolving cuz they don't last long, at least from what I can tell. Sure enough, the S20 does have a 100X zoom. But I noticed very quickly that once you get past 30x zoom (optical or digital?), the image quality degrades rapidly as you get anywhere near 100X. At the full 100X max zoom, the image is so pixelated and blurry on the screen that it's laughable...downright un-usable. So sure, the phone has 100X zoom and a gazillion megapixels. But the image is un-usable at full magnification. Don't even attempt to make even a small 4x6" print from it. This is why real photographers have real cameras, not cell phone cameras. Disclaimer: I am a "real" photographer, LOL!:D
 
Whenever possible, always check out the device in person. I was playing around with the camera of the S20 at a local Best Buy store. The Samsung sales rep told me the camera has a 100X zoom. I asked her if that meant 100X optical, which I doubt, or digital zoom, or a combination of both. She didn't know the answer. So many of those Samsung reps working at the Samsung booth of a Best Buy store are usually clueless cuz they just "graduated" from Samsung training school. I usually know way more than any of those revolving Samsung reps. I say revolving cuz they don't last long, at least from what I can tell. Sure enough, the S20 does have a 100X zoom. But I noticed very quickly that once you get past 30x zoom (optical or digital?), the image quality degrades rapidly as you get anywhere near 100X. At the full 100X max zoom, the image is so pixelated and blurry on the screen that it's laughable...downright un-usable. So sure, the phone has 100X zoom and a gazillion megapixels. But the image is un-usable at full magnification. Don't even attempt to make even a small 4x6" print from it. This is why real photographers have real cameras, not cell phone cameras. Disclaimer: I am a "real" photographer, LOL!:D

Even at 10X zoom the Ultra uses a combo optical/digital zoom.
 
Whenever possible, always check out the device in person. I was playing around with the camera of the S20 at a local Best Buy store. The Samsung sales rep told me the camera has a 100X zoom. I asked her if that meant 100X optical, which I doubt, or digital zoom, or a combination of both. She didn't know the answer. So many of those Samsung reps working at the Samsung booth of a Best Buy store are usually clueless cuz they just "graduated" from Samsung training school. I usually know way more than any of those revolving Samsung reps. I say revolving cuz they don't last long, at least from what I can tell. Sure enough, the S20 does have a 100X zoom. But I noticed very quickly that once you get past 30x zoom (optical or digital?), the image quality degrades rapidly as you get anywhere near 100X. At the full 100X max zoom, the image is so pixelated and blurry on the screen that it's laughable...downright un-usable. So sure, the phone has 100X zoom and a gazillion megapixels. But the image is un-usable at full magnification. Don't even attempt to make even a small 4x6" print from it. This is why real photographers have real cameras, not cell phone cameras. Disclaimer: I am a "real" photographer, LOL!:D
Probably have to be outside I'm thinking with more light to use 100x zoom
 
Whenever possible, always check out the device in person. I was playing around with the camera of the S20 at a local Best Buy store. The Samsung sales rep told me the camera has a 100X zoom. I asked her if that meant 100X optical, which I doubt, or digital zoom, or a combination of both. She didn't know the answer. So many of those Samsung reps working at the Samsung booth of a Best Buy store are usually clueless cuz they just "graduated" from Samsung training school. I usually know way more than any of those revolving Samsung reps. I say revolving cuz they don't last long, at least from what I can tell. Sure enough, the S20 does have a 100X zoom. But I noticed very quickly that once you get past 30x zoom (optical or digital?), the image quality degrades rapidly as you get anywhere near 100X. At the full 100X max zoom, the image is so pixelated and blurry on the screen that it's laughable...downright un-usable. So sure, the phone has 100X zoom and a gazillion megapixels. But the image is un-usable at full magnification. Don't even attempt to make even a small 4x6" print from it. This is why real photographers have real cameras, not cell phone cameras. Disclaimer: I am a "real" photographer, LOL!:D

Whenever possible, always check out the device in person. I was playing around with the camera of the S20 at a local Best Buy store. The Samsung sales rep told me the camera has a 100X zoom. I asked her if that meant 100X optical, which I doubt, or digital zoom, or a combination of both. She didn't know the answer. So many of those Samsung reps working at the Samsung booth of a Best Buy store are usually clueless cuz they just "graduated" from Samsung training school. I usually know way more than any of those revolving Samsung reps. I say revolving cuz they don't last long, at least from what I can tell. Sure enough, the S20 does have a 100X zoom. But I noticed very quickly that once you get past 30x zoom (optical or digital?), the image quality degrades rapidly as you get anywhere near 100X. At the full 100X max zoom, the image is so pixelated and blurry on the screen that it's laughable...downright un-usable. So sure, the phone has 100X zoom and a gazillion megapixels. But the image is un-usable at full magnification. Don't even attempt to make even a small 4x6" print from it. This is why real photographers have real cameras, not cell phone cameras. Disclaimer: I am a "real" photographer, LOL!:D

Based on this video review, I somewhat disagree with your final assessment, but you were limited to using it indoors at Best Buy. The 100X quality is not something I would hang my hat on but I could see myself using at times. Its certainly has an advantage over cropping from a smaller sensor and I'm sure it's also better at interim lower zoom angles.

https://youtu.be/Ert92uzZP50
 
S20 Ultra Images, so...I stepped out of the building and shot these one after another. I'm going to try and have them upload in order. Make sure you look at the first pic and see where the subject of the zoom is located.

Also ...shout out to all Yinz. If you know, you know.

Order is standard > 30X > 100X

That's awesome! The most I would probably use is 30x. The picture still looks pretty good.