Keep old UDP or switch to new UDP?

[Ry]

http://www.droid-life.com/2017/03/01/verizon-unlimited-vs-grandfathered-unlimited/

 

[Almeuit]

http://www.droid-life.com/2017/03/01/verizon-unlimited-vs-grandfathered-unlimited/

Good read .

 

[dpham00]

http://www.droid-life.com/2017/03/01/verizon-unlimited-vs-grandfathered-unlimited/

The network optimization over 22gb in high load situations and the 10gb hotspot limit are the deal breakers for me. Especially since I work in a high rise amongst multiple high rises and most of my usage is hotspot which well exceeds 10gb

 

[azdmelani]

I just switched. Will save me $50 a month over my single line plan. Hoping I won't be affected so much by congestion issues (I live in NYC)

 

[Unobtanium]

Also just switched. 2 lines on grandfathered UDP. Also will port a GoPhone prepaid when the cycle gets close. Should save about $120/month. Plus the GoPhone will go to Unlimited/10 gb tether from 5 GB total.

Also got a new Pixel 128 GB on device payment plan. VZW Corporate store had one in stock, even though their website showed none.

 

[mobrules]

I switched 4 lines to the new plan. Previously 2 lines shared 8gb and the other 2 shared 2gb. I kept my line grandfathered UDP plan.

What kills me is the 4 on the new plan are hardly using data at all. We are half way through the month and only one has gone over 1gb. I've used over 10gb.

We saved 70 a month setting it up that way and would save more if I switched. Just want to wait a few months and see if there's any further changes to the plans first.

 

[AIR-11]

No employee discount
Network Deprioritization
Tethering capped to 10gb after that it'll go down to ~869 MB (?)
Autopay for a $5 discount on bill

Good points. The employee discount doesn't bother me too much, because we'll be saving about $100/mo. The Network Depriortization doesn't bother me much, either, since I live in the Salt Lake City area, but away from the city, so that shouldn't be a problem. The tethering cap of 10gb isn't a problem, since I don't have that capability currently, so that'll actually be an upgrade for me, and the auto pay isn't a problem either.

What I'm most worried about is some type of bait and switch where we get on this new plan then in a year or two take away the UDP or start jacking up the price.

 

[Ry]

Good points. The employee discount doesn't bother me too much, because we'll be saving about $100/mo. The Network Depriortization doesn't bother me much, either, since I live in the Salt Lake City area, but away from the city, so that shouldn't be a problem. The tethering cap of 10gb isn't a problem, since I don't have that capability currently, so that'll actually be an upgrade for me, and the auto pay isn't a problem either.

What I'm most worried about is some type of bait and switch where we get on this new plan then in a year or two take away the UDP or start jacking up the price.

Besides raising the price for the legacy unlimited data plan by $20 once off-contract, have they taken away or raised the prices of any of the more recent plans?

 

[AIR-11]

I switched from the grandfathered unlimited to the new plans. If you use over 22 gigs and live in a high populated area you might want to stay where your at. IMO Verizon will eventually kill the grandfathered unlimited data plans, and with the new unlimited plans out that day could come sooner then later. You could wait till that happens, but you risk different plan or pricing. Verizon in the past has been good about leaving your plan your on alone. It's a crap shoot. I saved $110 a month off right away switching, and 3 lines under contract that will bring another $60 monthly savings. For me, the 22 gigs work and the savings is great.

Glad to hear from someone who made the switch and is liking it so far. If we switch over to the new plan and add our other family members it's going to save us like $100/mo. plus we still have a 1,400 minute limit on talk, so going everything unlimited would be great, not to mention we don't have the wifi hotspot capability now, so having that will be sweet!

I agree with you, I think Verizon will start ending the grandfathered UDP's soon. If I'm not mistaken, once the contracts end for the people who are on the grandfathered UDP's Verizon won't renew a contract with them and they will then just be floating month to month, which opens the door for the plans to be yanked away.

I think these new UDP's don't have contracts either, is that correct? My worry is they would either end the plan or start raising prices, but you are correct, they've been good about keeping you at what you have as long as you pay your bill, and with competition heating up from the other wireless companies I'd have to guess that'll keep Verizon competitive and wanting to do what they can to keep us customers happy.

Also, from what the Verizon rep told me, the 22GB thing isn't a throttle on speed, but it's a prioritization to connect to the tower to get data to use the internet, etc. Not the speed. So sounds like it would just make it tough to actually get service to use your data once you hit that 22GB and you're on a congested tower, but maybe he was just saying that to avoid the "throttling" word. But, I live in Utah and so sounds like that won't really be an issue, anyway.

Thanks for the info, very helpful, I think I'm going to make the switch to the new plan next week!

 

[AIR-11]

Besides raising the price for the legacy unlimited data plan by $20 once off-contract, have they taken away or raised the prices of any of the more recent plans?

I'm not sure on that, but the Verizon rep did tell me that they stopped that $20 increase, and that when those on the grandfathered UDP go off contract it will actually go down by $20, and in some cases, $30. He said that the line fee would be a flat $20 per line at that point. So, one of my unlimited lines got the $20 increase about a year ago, so that line is $49.99 per month right now, the rep said when it comes off contract it will drop to $20 per month, so saves me $30/mo. If I'm understanding him correctly, that is...

 

[Ry]

I'm not sure on that, but the Verizon rep did tell me that they stopped that $20 increase, and that when those on the grandfathered UDP go off contract it will actually go down by $20, and in some cases, $30. He said that the line fee would be a flat $20 per line at that point. So, one of my unlimited lines got the $20 increase about a year ago, so that line is $49.99 per month right now, the rep said when it comes off contract it will drop to $20 per month, so saves me $30/mo. If I'm understanding him correctly, that is...

I doubt that you're understanding him correctly.

If your legacy Unlimited Data Plan was raised by $20 (to $49.99), that would have happened when you went off-contract. Unless you bought a phone after that on a two-year plan, that line should still be off-contract.

 

[AIR-11]

I doubt that you're understanding him correctly.

If your legacy Unlimited Data Plan was raised by $20 (to $49.99), that would have happened when you went off-contract. Unless you bought a phone after that on a two-year plan, that line should still be off-contract.

Correct. The line went off contract, they raised the price by $20/mo to $49.99/mo, then a few months later did an upgrade with that line and got it back on contract, so it's locked in at $49.99/mo and, according to the rep, once it's off contract in about a year and 3 months it will drop down to $20/mo. But, I could be wrong.

 

[comk4ver]

Correct. The line went off contract, they raised the price by $20/mo to $49.99/mo, then a few months later did an upgrade with that line and got it back on contract, so it's locked in at $49.99/mo and, according to the rep, once it's off contract in about a year and 3 months it will drop down to $20/mo. But, I could be wrong.

That's news to me because I'm on the last leg of my UDP unless I move to the loyalty plan. Once I go there that's literally the last straw. I'd be completely surprised if they don't increase my grandfathered udp to $49 then a year and change down back to $29. That's inconceivable that Verizon would willingly loss out on money.

 

[trucksmoveamerica#AC]

I'm not sure on that, but the Verizon rep did tell me that they stopped that $20 increase, and that when those on the grandfathered UDP go off contract it will actually go down by $20, and in some cases, $30. He said that the line fee would be a flat $20 per line at that point. So, one of my unlimited lines got the $20 increase about a year ago, so that line is $49.99 per month right now, the rep said when it comes off contract it will drop to $20 per month, so saves me $30/mo. If I'm understanding him correctly, that is...

If your paying the $49.99 rate for unlimited data now you should be off contract and the line access fee should be $20 now on the new plan

 

[trucksmoveamerica#AC]

Correct. The line went off contract, they raised the price by $20/mo to $49.99/mo, then a few months later did an upgrade with that line and got it back on contract, so it's locked in at $49.99/mo and, according to the rep, once it's off contract in about a year and 3 months it will drop down to $20/mo. But, I could be wrong.

Ok didn't see responses. Yes it's $40 access fee untill it's off contract, then will drop to $20.

Since its an grandfathered unlimited line and they want those gone some have had success at them only charging the $20 a month instead of the $40. Do it on the phone, doubt you will get a store rep to do it. My phone rep just credited by account $260 right away to cover the charges

 

[comk4ver]

BTW, Verizon is having an Early Upgrade promotion with Best Buy if you are on a two year contract.

 

[AIR-11]

BTW, Verizon is having an Early Upgrade promotion with Best Buy if you are on a two year contract.

Sweet! Do you know if you can do the upgrade then switch over to the new UDP afterward? Are these subsidized phones are have they done away with those and you now pay full price?

 

[comk4ver]

Sweet! Do you know if you can do the upgrade then switch over to the new UDP afterward? Are these subsidized phones are have they done away with those and you now pay full price?

 

[Lodingi]

I'm not sure on that, but the Verizon rep did tell me that they stopped that $20 increase, and that when those on the grandfathered UDP go off contract it will actually go down by $20, and in some cases, $30. He said that the line fee would be a flat $20 per line at that point. So, one of my unlimited lines got the $20 increase about a year ago, so that line is $49.99 per month right now, the rep said when it comes off contract it will drop to $20 per month, so saves me $30/mo. If I'm understanding him correctly, that is...

Doesn't make sense. My line is a $49.99 udp. I've been off contract for a year and my data rate has not decreased. As others have stated, I'm hesitant to switch my plan to the new udp. I probably have no reason to be hesitant, but I can't get myself to pull the trigger, even though there doesn't appear to be any downside based on my usage. Ugh.

 

[Lodingi]

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I would assume you could.