LG V30 Leaks and Rumors

[Mike Dee]

Where can we vote about the battery?

Its a done deal

 

[MDMcAtee]

Re: The V30 rumoured battery: Disappointment or a non issue?

I don't think that I will buy another LG phone for a while.

Sure they sound good if they have the good Dacs in them and their cameras are top notch but their software leaves a lot to be desired and unless you buy a unlocked one they are filled with a lot of bloat.. I know it can be disabled but still it's still there.

With them moving to being like all the rest of the sealed backed phones, there really isn't any compelling reason to continue buying them.

I have only had one phone that got wet inside it in my entire life and while some folks really need the water resistant type of phone, I don't.. and I have used my phone in torrential downpours too.. I also know that fast charging and great big batteries and phones like my u11 that get 5.5-6 hours of SOT help get through the day, but there is always a nagging feeling that won't go away by not being able to just pop in a fresh battery in a few seconds......

To me I don't like super thin bezeless phones where the screen is exposed on it's sides (curved screens) because you can't really protect them like a perfectly flat screen with metal edges. That is important to me and how I carry my phone at work and everywhere else I go.

The IR blaster is a nice addition, but not critical and the headphone jack really needs to be included, even as good as my HTC u11 is and it's software I still want the capability of having a FM radio inside. The carriers should be forced to have them. Streaming is excellent on my u11, but live radio is excellent on my v20.

I know millions of people are all giddy over Samsung style phones and many here are excited that LG is adapting a similar approach but I fear that in the end they are just cutting off their nose to spite their face going in this direction.

Just my opinion that's all

Mac

 

[flyingkytez]

Re: The V30 rumoured battery: Disappointment or a non issue?

I don't think that I will buy another LG phone for a while.

Sure they sound good if they have the good Dacs in them and their cameras are top notch but their software leaves a lot to be desired and unless you buy a unlocked one they are filled with a lot of bloat.. I know it can be disabled but still it's still there.

With them moving to being like all the rest of the sealed backed phones, there really isn't any compelling reason to continue buying them.

I have only had one phone that got wet inside it in my entire life and while some folks really need the water resistant type of phone, I don't.. and I have used my phone in torrential downpours too.. I also know that fast charging and great big batteries and phones like my u11 that get 5.5-6 hours of SOT help get through the day, but there is always a nagging feeling that won't go away by not being able to just pop in a fresh battery in a few seconds......

To me I don't like super thin bezeless phones where the screen is exposed on it's sides (curved screens) because you can't really protect them like a perfectly flat screen with metal edges. That is important to me and how I carry my phone at work and everywhere else I go.

The IR blaster is a nice addition, but not critical and the headphone jack really needs to be included, even as good as my HTC u11 is and it's software I still want the capability of having a FM radio inside. The carriers should be forced to have them. Streaming is excellent on my u11, but live radio is excellent on my v20.

I know millions of people are all giddy over Samsung style phones and many here are excited that LG is adapting a similar approach but I fear that in the end they are just cutting off their nose to spite their face going in this direction.

Just my opinion that's all

Mac

The V20 was going the right direction. If they actually remade the V20 with a new 835 processor and dual pixel camera, then it would easily have been one of the greatest phones ever. I honestly don't care for the glass/curves/shiney phones, I'm starting to see a handful of users on the S8 forums feeling the same way after using it, feeling annoyed with the design while everyone else is pretending to be okay with it. Can't say whether LG will be a success in the future but it's their decision. The V20 was the dream phone most had hope for and their dream are going to be crushed, just like when Apple screwed their fans with the removal of headphone jack. A punch to the gut.

 

[Zachary Boddy]

Re: New V30 render... Might not get it. What do you think?

The problem is everyone is trying to beat Apple. Copying their design and it's become a competition of who can make the prettiest phone. Note 5 sucks, I'll take the Note 4 any day.

I definitely agree with you there.

 

[jlost]

Re: New V30 render... Might not get it. What do you think?

I definitely agree with you there.

Note 5 most certainly does not suck. Have you ever used one?

 

[Mike Dee]

Re: New V30 render... Might not get it. What do you think?

Note 5 most certainly does not suck. Have you ever used one?

You really don't know what part he was agreeing to

 

[Guyinbox]

Re: The V30 rumoured battery: Disappointment or a non issue?

The V20 was going the right direction. If they actually remade the V20 with a new 835 processor and dual pixel camera, then it would easily have been one of the greatest phones ever. I honestly don't care for the glass/curves/shiney phones, I'm starting to see a handful of users on the S8 forums feeling the same way after using it, feeling annoyed with the design while everyone else is pretending to be okay with it. Can't say whether LG will be a success in the future but it's their decision. The V20 was the dream phone most had hope for and their dream are going to be crushed, just like when Apple screwed their fans with the removal of headphone jack. A punch to the gut.

Definitely this. If the v30 was just an upgraded v20 with a poled screen, 835 and better low light camera then i would've been all over it. This really feels like what Samsung did with the note line after the note 4. I always figured I'd just buy the new note every year because it had everything i wanted. The only reason i started buying LG phones was for the ir blaster and removable battery. Too bad there's not really any other options when LG goes the same route as everyone else.

Looks like the v20 might be my first two or three year phone since i started buying Androids.

 

[chriskwarren]

Is it possible to get a glass back that would be easily removable using something like a sim removal tool? Pop in a paperclip and it would release inside clips and the back would pop off? Might make waterproofing tricky (ala Galaxy S5) but this is something I think about when people think glass = glued on back.

 

[shadavis08]

Re: The V30 rumoured battery: Disappointment or a non issue?

Non removable battery = disappointment

I'm buying a second v20 soon as a backup to my current one . I'll be good for a while. Maybe buy the time I need a new phone someone will have another phone out with a replaceable battery.

 

[MDMcAtee]

Re: The V30 rumoured battery: Disappointment or a non issue?

The V20 was going the right direction. If they actually remade the V20 with a new 835 processor and dual pixel camera, then it would easily have been one of the greatest phones ever. I honestly don't care for the glass/curves/shiney phones, I'm starting to see a handful of users on the S8 forums feeling the same way after using it, feeling annoyed with the design while everyone else is pretending to be okay with it. Can't say whether LG will be a success in the future but it's their decision. The V20 was the dream phone most had hope for and their dream are going to be crushed, just like when Apple screwed their fans with the removal of headphone jack. A punch to the gut.

Probably your right.

I'm not sure who is being asked (what marketing control group) what consumers actually want in a smartphone or even if LG bothers with them, but they aren't asking their core fans that is plainly evident.

Back when the v10 was being leaked there was a real flurry of TV ads that came out in a good number and really got people interested in the v line... Then they just fizzled out.

If LG keeps doing things like this in advertising they will never gain any market share

We can lament the fact that removable batteries are gone till the cows come home and won't change their corporate decisions 1 iota...

It's time to move on to a different phone that gives you the best experience you can get. As much as I like my v20 my u11 is tempering my anger at LG. While my preferences are against glass backs and sealed batteries just like you I've come to terms with them with them and am enjoying the phone more and more everyday. I've stopped worrying about the glass back and am just more mindful on my usage and rouge apps for the battery life.

The v30 users will have to do the same thing.

Mac

 

[flyingkytez]

Re: The V30 rumoured battery: Disappointment or a non issue?

Non removable battery = disappointment

I'm buying a second v20 soon as a backup to my current one . I'll be good for a while. Maybe buy the time I need a new phone someone will have another phone out with a replaceable battery.

Well said. I'm going to do that too once there's a good sale price. I'll keep it in my closet until doomsday. Funny how some people are STILL looking to buy a Note 4. Shows that people refuse to accept the glass slab and sealed battery design.

 

[flyingkytez]

Re: The V30 rumoured battery: Disappointment or a non issue?

Probably your right.

I'm not sure who is being asked (what marketing control group) what consumers actually want in a smartphone or even if LG bothers with them, but they aren't asking their core fans that is plainly evident.

Back when the v10 was being leaked there was a real flurry of TV ads that came out in a good number and really got people interested in the v line... Then they just fizzled out.

If LG keeps doing things like this in advertising they will never gain any market share

We can lament the fact that removable batteries are gone till the cows come home and won't change their corporate decisions 1 iota...

It's time to move on to a different phone that gives you the best experience you can get. As much as I like my v20 my u11 is tempering my anger at LG. While my preferences are against glass backs and sealed batteries just like you I've come to terms with them with them and am enjoying the phone more and more everyday. I've stopped worrying about the glass back and am just more mindful on my usage and rouge apps for the battery life.

The v30 users will have to do the same thing.

Mac

Not going to spend $900 on a phone and accept the removal of features that most wanted. Paying a manufacture after removing the headphone jack is like rewarding them for doing that. So far, I'll never get a Motorola, HTC, and now Pixel because they lack the basic features of a portable smartphone/media player. Who would buy an iPod without a headphone jack? You crazy?

 

[flyingkytez]

Re: The V30 rumoured battery: Disappointment or a non issue?

The G6 is the other flagship. And making one removable and one not would not pay for them.

I'm sure there's a large number of people willing to pay a little extra for it. I did a poll vote and more than half wants it. They will make some money. Maybe keep the exact same design, except have the back pop off just to save on manufacturing cost. Samsung has another S8 variant called the S8 Active and it has a big fan base. Maybe make a carrier exclusive deal so they can bank on it? I know the G5 was a failure but the V20 was a good example.

 

[Aquila]

Re: The V30 rumoured battery: Disappointment or a non issue?

I did a poll vote and more than half wants it.

A poll of who? How was it conducted?

 

[flyingkytez]

Re: The V30 rumoured battery: Disappointment or a non issue?

Also on the bezel front... ithe Pixel XL has a surface area of 18.15 sq in and a display that is 12.93 sq in, meaning that it has a total of 5.22 sq in of bezels. The V20 has an area of 19.31 sq in with a display area of 13.8 sq in, meaning it has a total of 5.43 sq in of bezels. So the Pixel has "giant bezels", yet the V20 has 4% larger bezels.

But there's a second screen. At least they are making use of the extra space. Should've included front facing speakers, oh right they are now after the suggestions.

"Another leak shows large front bezels"... Title says it all.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.th.../16107478/pixel-leak-shows-large-front-bezels

 

[flyingkytez]

Re: The V30 rumoured battery: Disappointment or a non issue?

There are several phones that are faster/smoother/last longer than LG. Being better than the worst doesn't mean being the best.

Last longer. Haha you wanna bet $100 the V20 will last longer than the Pixel? Look at the Nexus 6P forums and see everyone complaining about battery life. They gotta get a new phone or pay someone to replace it. Any sealed battery smartphone that's 2 years or older are either dying or is dead and retired. Removal battery phones are still around and are living past their expected life.

https://forums.androidcentral.com/nexus-6p/823497-phone-shuts-down-30-battery.html#post5915715

 

[Aquila]

Re: The V30 rumoured battery: Disappointment or a non issue?

Last longer. Haha you wanna bet $100 the V20 will last longer than the Pixel? Look at the Nexus 6P forums and see everyone complaining about battery life. They gotta get a new phone or pay someone to replace it.

Again, we're talking software. You keep switching to hardware. We're talking about the quality of the software through time. You said that LG makes the fastest/smoothest of all the phones that you've used. Yet, from what I recall, you've only used LG since the Note 4. That means you've never used a phone that has actually superb software. That's not an insult against LG, it's referencing the selection bias. Yes, LG devices tend to be better performing on the software side than Samsung devices. But almost all devices are.

 

[flyingkytez]

Re: The V30 rumoured battery: Disappointment or a non issue?

A poll of who? How was it conducted?

Here it is: https://forums.androidcentral.com/lg-v30/793094-lg-v30-leaks-rumors-21.html#post5915693

There mods merged my thread and grouped them together for some reason. But you can see the poll results at the front.

 

[flyingkytez]

Re: The V30 rumoured battery: Disappointment or a non issue?

Again, we're talking software. You keep switching to hardware. We're talking about the quality of the software through time. You said that LG makes the fastest/smoothest of all the phones that you've used. Yet, from what I recall, you've only used LG since the Note 4. That means you've never used a phone that has actually superb software. That's not an insult against LG, it's referencing the selection bias. Yes, LG devices tend to be better performing on the software side than Samsung devices. But almost all devices are.

The point I was trying to make was that LG is consistently fast. Samsung phones always start off great. After the honeymoon phase, everyone starts to experience lag. Usually happens after an OS update. Hardware should still be fast, but for some reason, the phone is slower than it used to be. I don't think apps like Facebook or Pandora would cause any change in speed. The thing is Samsung has this whole ecosystem thing where the smart watch, TV, fridge, washer, dryer, hair dryer is controlled on the phone. The issue with that is services are constantly running in the background. Combine that with a non-optimized OS equals lag.

 

[Aquila]

Re: The V30 rumoured battery: Disappointment or a non issue?

Here it is: https://forums.androidcentral.com/lg-v30/793094-lg-v30-leaks-rumors-21.html#post5915693

There mods merged my thread and grouped them together for some reason. But you can see the poll results at the front.

Ok I thought that's what you were referring to. That's a poll of only LG fans on a site that is comprised of only the super nerdiest of phone fanatics. AC represents about 1% of the addressable market, and most of our users are in western countries. From there, LG's fans represent less than 4% and those who choose the V20 among the myriad of LG devices released are obviously less than that. From there, we're looking at only users who saw that thread and cared enough to vote or comment. Let's say that's 10% to put it generously, given that the V30 forum is not one of the most trafficked sections of the forums. .01 x .04 x .1 = .004%. 100% of the sample came out of a non-random selection from which 99.996% of the population was not represented. And only 35 people were polled. In order to get a fair representation, we would need 30 or more (minimum) people, selected at random from a pool of all prospective smartphone buyers and for them to be able to vote anonymously.

TL/DR Among the most nerdiest of phone fanatics who happened to visit AC and vote in a non-anonymous poll, 5 more people cared enough to leave an OEM than people who either didn't want it or didn't care. This is statistically meaningless.