Moto X (2nd gen) XT1095 Pure Edition/T-Mobile: Lollipop 5.1 Update

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Prob notification from or post Motorola. I want 5.1 already!!!

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I have not seen or heard ANYTHING about the soak test finishing up... but typically once it's done, they release it immediately. Now it does take some time to release it to all the devices once it does get released.
 
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I've seen some news posts from that indicated the 5.1 rollout for the 2014 PE might be within the next week, though I'm not holding my breath, as I don't trust any of the supposed sources. I'm completely miserable with 5.0 on my 2014 X in the meantime and have been watching everywhere and anywhere for the past month (during the soak test) for news of the update rolling out. The memory leak is getting increasingly awful for me, and as a result, my phone has been buggier and buggier with every passing week. Ugh. I loved this phone when I got it, but not so much now (screen redraws, apps lag like crazy and/or are slow to launch among other bugs). The worst "bug" I've encountered is that after a long period of not rebooting the phone, I'll be in a phone call and want to snap a quick photo to send to the person I'm talking to -- the minute I launch the camera app, it hangs up the call!! WTF?! (Actually, what it seems to do is kill the phone app -- the notification of the ongoing call will move from being next to my Wi-Fi signal strength indicator to the other side of the status bar and will still show in the notification shade, but if I try to do anything but hang up the call from the notification shade, it does nothing at all, and the call is already gone anyways).

I love active notifications and some other features of Moto's phones, but if the 5.1 update doesn't come soon, I'm seriously starting to eye up other phones. I don't know how much longer I can take having a phone that works as it should only immediately after a reboot. I know there are still bugs in 5.1, and that there is also still a memory leak bug, but I'm hopeful that that one isn't as bad as the one I'm currently experiencing. Wishful thinking, probably.

Has anyone else got news about 5.1 coming to the rest of us Moto X 2014 PE users who were left out of the soak that started in March? I've had days where I've been tempted to toss my 2014 X out a window in frustration lately.
 
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I have, like the poster above me, experienced a lot of weird memory leaks. I have had a number of screen redraws as well, and it is getting fairly annoying. I can live with 5.0, but I really want 5.1 to fix some of these minor bugs I've been experiencing.
 
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Although the 5.1 update will be a very welcome upgrade, based on what I've reported about the infamous memory leak, it appears that error is corrected in version 5.1.1, not 5.1.

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Although the 5.1 update will be a very welcome upgrade, based on what I've reported about the infamous memory leak, it appears that error is corrected in version 5.1.1, not 5.1.

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If you noticed in my post, I said I'm aware that there is a different memory leak issue in 5.1 (that isn't fixed until 5.1.1), but I'm hoping that perhaps THAT one isn't as bad as what I have. ;) Wishful thinking for sure, but right about now, almost anything seems better (I may find myself eating those words if/when Moto does push 5.1 ... ).
 
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So, since I have not seen any memory leak issues... how are you seeing these issues? Is it specific apps you are seeing these issues with?

Secondly, if 5.1.1 has not even been release how do you know it has not fixed the issue? Or did some announcement slip by without me seeing it. Where is this announcement? And where is the links to these memory leak issues? Provide some links might help.
 
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So, since I have not seen any memory leak issues... how are you seeing these issues? Is it specific apps you are seeing these issues with?

Secondly, if 5.1.1 has not even been release how do you know it has not fixed the issue? Or did some announcement slip by without me seeing it. Where is this announcement? And where is the links to these memory leak issues? Provide some links might help.

If you are speaking to me -- specific apps? How about the phone app. Or the camera app. Or when I launch Google Play Music, sometimes it literally takes 5 seconds to open the app (enough time that I think I didn't actually tap on the icon, until it suddenly launches and I realize that yes, indeed, I DID tap the icon).

I did NOT have these issues right off the bat. I did not have these issues when I used my phone very minimally. When I first got my Moto X 2014, I didn't use my phone all that much, but at the same time, I ditched my android tablet and so began relying on my phone more for apps like PayPal, eBay, Etsy (I sell on eBay and Etsy). I routinely use my phone to snap quick photos for a lot of things. My mother is also an etsy seller, and we often share our recent creations with one another during phone calls -- so, quite often, I will put my phone on speaker and launch the camera app to snap a photo that I'll send to her via hangouts. On one particularly bad day, my beloved Moto X 2014 decided that each time I launched the camera app, it hung up my phone call (and it did this 3 times in a row, each time exactly the same way). For reference, I have very few apps installed. The ones I do are generally mainstream/well known apps from trusted companies & developers. I have no issues with excessive battery drain. I have no issues in general except the well-known lollipop bugs that you can read about on almost any forum across the internet. Phantom apps that appear when you clear the recent apps list. App launch lag (to some degree). App performance -- I've had the Play Store lock up just installing an app update! Google Play Music will also simply fail to play music (like the player portion is broken) -- but this, I believe, is an app specific issue, even though I've never seen it before recently.

The one issue I've had almost since the beginning is the slow launching of some apps, most especially Google Play Music -- an app I use every day. I jog every morning and use my phone to play music via an All-Access subscription through Google Play Music. The first time the app took a long time to launch, I thought it was me. I thought I hadn't actually touched the icon on my home screen, but then the app will launch, right about the time I'm about to tap the icon again, thinking I somehow missed it. My husband also has this issue, but until I said something about it, he thought it was just his big fat fingers not being terribly accurate on the screen.

These things are insanely annoying when you have to reboot your phone to make them stop for a little while -- and the key really is that a REBOOT makes things behave again for awhile. Without fail, if my phone reaches 200 hours of uptime, the lag is disgusting (like right now, my phone sits at 165 hours uptime and it's starting to get annoying). When I reboot and my phone speeds up, it's like having a toothbrush that uses a regular AA battery -- you don't even realize just how slow it's gotten until you put in fresh batteries! Suddenly, with a reboot, my phone functions the way it should! But again, by the time I near anywhere close to 200 hours of uptime... yep, back down the drain it has gone.

Some people seem to not have these kinds of problems on 5.0, and others seem to have it to a horrible, almost unbearable degree. I probably fall somewhere in the middle. But it makes me not want any phone that runs 5.0 right now. It kind of seems like the more you do on your phone, the worse the problem is. My husband hates his Moto X 2014 because his problem is even worse than mine (he plays a lot of games on his phone). So, like most normal folks would, I am hopeful that at least SOME of these issues are fixed in 5.1. If I had fewer of these issues, in all likelihood, I'd be much more tolerant of the issues I have. I'm a pretty patient person, usually, but this has me feeling a lot like I did back when Asus abandoned the TF101 firmware after absolutely borking it with their ICS update.

With regards to the 5.1.1 thing -- the reason everyone believes that 5.1.1 fixes the memory leak(s) is because the leak (still?) present in 5.1 was apparently fixed internally at Google between 5.1 and 5.1.1. I cannot recall exactly where I read these things, as I read them at least a week or so ago. Some were news articles, other stuff was posted in places like XDA discussions & reddit posts -- rumors, really. If you really want to know more about all of this, Google it. ;) There is no shortage of news & complaints regarding 5.0, 5.1 and 5.1.1.
 
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Maybe you should do a nightly reboot... just a thought...
 
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5.1 is coming soon, lots of websites are reporting on it. Can't wait for it!
 
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I read somewhere that a soak test for 5.1 for the Pure Edition was out? Any truth to that?
 
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I read somewhere that a soak test for 5.1 for the Pure Edition was out? Any truth to that?

Only in Brazil...

Posted on my Moto X that is prob being charged as we speak...
 
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Only in Brazil...

Posted on my Moto X that is prob being charged as we speak...
Ah alright. Well hopefully it won't be too long for the rest of the world.
 
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I read somewhere that a soak test for 5.1 for the Pure Edition was out? Any truth to that?

5.1 soak test for the Pure Edition has been going on for a long time now in the US. The US Pure Edition soak test should be wrapping up fairly soon.

I did not know they had a Pure Edition in other locations, but I had read they just STARTED doing a soak test for Brazil... is that a Pure Edition, I don't know.
 
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I have the AT&T model of this phone running OTA 5.0.2 and I have not experienced any of the lollipop bugs and problems that I have read about here and on other sites.

Particularly the memory leak or launcher redraws. Ive read about this and apparently the System RAM usage will balloon up over time with some screenshots ive seen getting up around 1gig of RAM usage. However the highest mine has ever gotten is around 450....and then an hour later when I check it its back around 350.

Not sure if the GEL launcher has anything to do with it but I use NOVA prime which is really just the GEL but only much much better.

I have seen that a changelog for 5.1 is out so it shouldn't be too much longer for those experiencing problems.

Im either extremely lucky....or all OTAs and phones are not created equal. Its been nothing but smooth sailing every since I got this phone...and the experience only got better when I updated it from 4.4.4 to 5.0.2
 
Re: Moto X (2nd gen): Is 5.1 available for the pure edition?

I have the AT&T model of this phone running OTA 5.0.2 and I have not experienced any of the lollipop bugs and problems that I have read about here and on other sites.

Particularly the memory leak or launcher redraws. Ive read about this and apparently the System RAM usage will balloon up over time with some screenshots ive seen getting up around 1gig of RAM usage. However the highest mine has ever gotten is around 450....and then an hour later when I check it its back around 350.

Not sure if the GEL launcher has anything to do with it but I use NOVA prime which is really just the GEL but only much much better.

I have seen that a changelog for 5.1 is out so it shouldn't be too much longer for those experiencing problems.

Im either extremely lucky....or all OTAs and phones are not created equal. Its been nothing but smooth sailing every since I got this phone...and the experience only got better when I updated it from 4.4.4 to 5.0.2

I'm on AT&T too with 5.0.2 and I'm having the same experience. The only time I have had any kind of serious lag was when I was playing around with Hangouts, which I really don't use. I rebooted the phone and have had no issues since. I'm having great battery life, no memory leak issues, and I'm using the stock launcher. I still don't like the super-white color scheme, but it hasn't bothered me enough to switch to Nova just yet. Since 5.0.2 seems to be so stable for some folks, perhaps that bodes well for 5.1 fixing a lot of problems people are having.
 
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I havent slept even a day without checking lollipop update on moto x 2013. I m from india.. Would like to know how long will it take for us to get the update. I hope it doesnt tk too long. I love my moto x 2013 in all aspect. However.. I hope that doesnt change due to my anger towards not having the lollipop update. Frankly, it isnt a good feel to see moto e and g getting lollipop update. Dont let moto x down. Waiting for lollipop 5.1 eagerly on my moto x 2013.

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Regarding 5.0 v. 5.1, I can tell you that 5.0 was very buggy on the Nexus 5. Almost to the point the phone was unusable. The 5.1 update resolved all the issues and the phone was perfectly smooth on that update.

The pure edition on 5.0 is not perfect but it is nowhere near as bad as 5.0 on the nexus. My pure is still very usable on 5.0.
 
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Regarding 5.0 v. 5.1, I can tell you that 5.0 was very buggy on the Nexus 5. Almost to the point the phone was unusable. The 5.1 update resolved all the issues and the phone was perfectly smooth on that update.

The pure edition on 5.0 is not perfect but it is nowhere near as bad as 5.0 on the nexus. My pure is still very usable on 5.0.

I wish I could say the same for my Moto X. Unfortunately, unless I reboot every other day, I can't. I really wish Moto would just push 5.1 for the PE phones already. For those of us with issues, it might really help. But as it stands, they're losing a customer as soon as I figure out what I want to replace my 2014 X with.

Back when the Nexus 5 first came out, I bought a one and used it for a week before I sent it back to Google. I was just so very unimpressed with the build quality and the camera. Later on, I got a 2013 Moto X and despite the so-so camera, I was more than ready to keep it for awhile until I got a discount code last November/December for the 2014 model. I figured I'd like the upgraded features on the 2014 model and I kind of wanted to try out the bigger screen. Sadly, I wish I'd stuck with the 2013 now; it was so much more stable on 4.4.4 than my 2014 on 5.0.

The stupid part is, I really LIKE the 2014 Moto X. The build is fantastic. I like active display a lot, and Moto Voice. The camera sucks something awful, but I can live with it, as I carry a digital SLR for those times when I want really good photos. Moto just pisses me off by leaving PE phones on unstable crap software, while they push 5.1 for phones like the 2015 Moto E. The Moto E, really?! Then there was the botched 5.0.2 soak test for the AT&T version that they invited PE owners to, and then proceeded to act like it was our fault that we responded, not sure what was going on. And finally, signing up for the 5.1 soak test for the PE and being left out of it for the first time EVER with a Moto soak. I could go on with other customer service issues my hubby and I have run into with Motorola lately, as well. It all adds up to total frustration.

I'm shaking my head at what appears to be a complete lack of organization within Moto since Lenovo took over. It's like the PE phones are a complete afterthought. I'm sure it's something stupid like: "well, the PE is already on 5.0, so we won't fix that until we've gotten all these other phones up to 5.0.2 or 5.1. Then we'll go back and deal with that." Meanwhile, many of you say 5.0 is just fine, but people like me and my husband... not so. I'm sure you all think I'm crazy, but if your phone behaved like mine does, you'd probably feel the same way. So please, cut me a break and quit telling me that because your phone is semi-fine, I should be OK too. Not everything is sunshine & bunnies & roses for all of us. And I'm running out of patience.
 
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I wish I could say the same for my Moto X. Unfortunately, unless I reboot every other day, I can't. I really wish Moto would just push 5.1 for the PE phones already. For those of us with issues, it might really help. But as it stands, they're losing a customer as soon as I figure out what I want to replace my 2014 X with.

Back when the Nexus 5 first came out, I bought a one and used it for a week before I sent it back to Google. I was just so very unimpressed with the build quality and the camera. Later on, I got a 2013 Moto X and despite the so-so camera, I was more than ready to keep it for awhile until I got a discount code last November/December for the 2014 model. I figured I'd like the upgraded features on the 2014 model and I kind of wanted to try out the bigger screen. Sadly, I wish I'd stuck with the 2013 now; it was so much more stable on 4.4.4 than my 2014 on 5.0.

The stupid part is, I really LIKE the 2014 Moto X. The build is fantastic. I like active display a lot, and Moto Voice. The camera sucks something awful, but I can live with it, as I carry a digital SLR for those times when I want really good photos. Moto just pisses me off by leaving PE phones on unstable crap software, while they push 5.1 for phones like the 2015 Moto E. The Moto E, really?! Then there was the botched 5.0.2 soak test for the AT&T version that they invited PE owners to, and then proceeded to act like it was our fault that we responded, not sure what was going on. And finally, signing up for the 5.1 soak test for the PE and being left out of it for the first time EVER with a Moto soak. I could go on with other customer service issues my hubby and I have run into with Motorola lately, as well. It all adds up to total frustration.

I'm shaking my head at what appears to be a complete lack of organization within Moto since Lenovo took over. It's like the PE phones are a complete afterthought. I'm sure it's something stupid like: "well, the PE is already on 5.0, so we won't fix that until we've gotten all these other phones up to 5.0.2 or 5.1. Then we'll go back and deal with that." Meanwhile, many of you say 5.0 is just fine, but people like me and my husband... not so. I'm sure you all think I'm crazy, but if your phone behaved like mine does, you'd probably feel the same way. So please, cut me a break and quit telling me that because your phone is semi-fine, I should be OK too. Not everything is sunshine & bunnies & roses for all of us. And I'm running out of patience.

If this comment is directed at me, I'm going to have to take the pedantic step of pointing out that me saying my phone works fine is in no way making a statement on how your phone is or isn't working. Further, me making a comment on how MY phone is doing is not, in any shape or form, making a suggestion to you on whether you should or shouldn't be OK with how your phone is operating. Thank you.

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I am late to the party I know but thought I would share. I got my moto 2014 Tuesday and of course it had 5.0 on it. Now I will state up front I HATE lollipop for a variety of reasons but for me the dealbreaker was my otg thumbdrive wont work on 5.0. Works fine on 444, yes I am on 444 now. Without getting to technical you CAN downgrade to 444 without causing yourself later issues IF AND ONLY IF the ONLY parts you downgrade are system and boot.

Just in case you didnt see it ONLY CHANGE BOOT AND SYSTEM (system.img and boot.img)

NEVER EVER EVER EVER UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES MESS WITH THE BOOTLOADER OR GPT FILES!!!!!!

I mention this as for those of you with major 5.0 woes this may be a pretty decent workaround