Nexus 10 (2013) Leaks and Info

[Larry Heminger]

Count me in on that as well. I gave away my old tablet to my mother-in-law, while waiting for the new Nexus 10. But if Google doesn't say something soon, then I'll be forced to buy another brand. I've grown attached to having a tablet, and I'm twiddling my thumbs waiting on Google. I agree with the group that they should at least drop a hint, so I don't spend my money elsewhere.

 

[djm7541]

I see people talking about getting an iPad Air.

I have an old iPad 2, and the current Nexus 10.

With my Nexus 10, every day I download a .zip file from the newspaper "Le Monde" and uncompress it, to extract the .pdf Acrobat Reader file that is the daily newspaper. Then I can save that forever. Basic as it is, that task, it appeared to be impossible with the iPad 2 (iOS).

Once the .pdf files are on the Nexus 10, using a file manager Android app, I can create directories for each month, to store the .pdf files in a separate directory. One directory for each month. Creating directories in the file system in iOS ? Moving files into that directoy in iOS ? No, iOS hides the entire file system from the user.

Having to go through iTunes to move around files, and several other things. It was such a hassle, at best, and sometimes impossible.

And for ebooks, there's an iOS app to read the ebooks I buy from Google on my iPad. But the ebooks I bought from Apple, the only place I can read them is on my iPad. No choice.

I'm done with Apple. I have zero interest in having any new iPad product.

 

[crxssi]

I don't know what you mean by "announced, officially". How does G announce it "Officially".

Typically companies do it as a press release.

 

[msavic6]

I see people talking about getting an iPad Air.

I have an old iPad 2, and the current Nexus 10.

With my Nexus 10, every day I download a .zip file from the newspaper "Le Monde" and uncompress it, to extract the .pdf Acrobat Reader file that is the daily newspaper. Then I can save that forever. Basic as it is, that task, it appeared to be impossible with the iPad 2.

Having to go through iTunes to move around files, and several other things. It was such a hassle, at best, and sometimes impossible.

And for ebooks, there's an iOS app to read the ebooks I buy from Google on my iPad. But the ebooks I bought from Apple, the only place I can read them is on my iPad. No choice.

I'm done with Apple. I have zero interest in having any new iPad product.

Lets say Google doesn't release a new Nexus 10, what tablet am I supposed to buy? I am not buying a Note 10.1, the pen simply can't replace pen/paper for me and touchwiz is destroying performance on that thing.

That leaves me with two options; Grab an old nexus 10 and basically have last years hardware and the issues that came with that device. Or I could grab an iPad Air, lose a couple advantages of the android ecosystem but gain some from iOS and the form factor/battery life are amazing on the Air, not too mention the accessories market is booming for iPads.


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[djm7541]

That leaves me with two options; Grab an old nexus 10 and basically have last years hardware and the issues that came with that device. Or I could grab an iPad Air, lose a couple advantages of the android ecosystem but gain some from iOS and the form factor/battery life are amazing on the Air, not too mention the accessories market is booming for iPads.

Actually, I guess that I do have to acknowledge that you have said some valid things there.

If you know what you're getting into, and you're not bothered by the lack of a way natively work with files (a file manager) where you can dowload files, unzip them, create directories, move files around, etc ... then maybe there's no issue for you.

The iPad Air does look like a fine piece of hardware, and for lots and lots of stuff, iOS is good enough. But still, in the end, iOS is, for me, inferior to Android.

Also, you mention "the issues that came with that device", the Nexus 10, current version. I'm sure that you could cite examples, I've seen stories too, but for me, with the Nexus 10 I bought last August, there haven't been any issues at all.

Also, last July, the tablet hardware guy at Google told some journalist at the Wall Street Journal that the Nexus 10 would be coming "very soon". I'm surprised that it isn't here already, but I'd wait another week, at least.

 

[galfert]

The Nexus 10 is more than adequate to remain a very viable strong tablet for yet another 6 months at least. It runs KitKat and has great specs and is super fast. I can hardly think of anything a new model N10 would have to offer over the current one. Sure you can always expect marginal improvements like use a newer SOC that would give you marginal performance increase, but the current N10 is not sluggish at all. New SOC and maybe a bigger battery would increase battery life, but the current N10 has more than adequate battery life for most. Higher resolution makes no sense so I doubt that will happen. New one might be a bit lighter. More storage is just not very important having currently 32GB. My point is that there isn't anything really significant missing in the current N10. Maybe wireless charging would be nice is all. Still the current N10 is formidable. If you don't have one then buy one. Woot just had it yesterday (32 GB ) for $280. And there are great deals on Craigslist or eBay.

I really can't believe that there are those that say they will consider an iPad Air. I'm not an Android zealot, but I feel that most people are either in one camp or the other. And that is fine. If you are waiting for the new then wait. And wait for however long. If you need something now then get an old N10. Then sell the old N10 when the new one comes out. That will make waiting easy. The current N10 is a great purchase now. You might break even if you sell it in the next couple months or at least it shouldn't deprecate much. If you really could consider an iPad Air then you probably are not really wanting the new N10, instead what you really want is the newest toy with indifference to what it really is. I would not trade my N10 for an iPad Air even if you paid me.

My question is if you are so interested today in the new N10 why didn't you buy the current N10 within the last year that it has been available? If you had then you wouldn't mind so much waiting now. If you are always waiting for the next best thing without getting anything then you'll never have anything. When you do get something learn to deal with the fact that it won't be the best for long.

The current N10 is so good that I'm not convinced I would upgrade. I will upgrade if it is significantly lighter and has wireless charging. But for now I'm very happy with my current N10. I'm not really missing anything.

Sorry if my comments insult anyone. It is not my intention.


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[ctychick]

Exactly why I won't go with an ipad. And I'm completely married to widgets. Google won't lose my biz to Apple, but I'm now open to the other Android offerings. Kills me to say it.

I see people talking about getting an iPad Air.

I have an old iPad 2, and the current Nexus 10.

With my Nexus 10, every day I download a .zip file from the newspaper "Le Monde" and uncompress it, to extract the .pdf Acrobat Reader file that is the daily newspaper. Then I can save that forever. Basic as it is, that task, it appeared to be impossible with the iPad 2 (iOS).

Once the .pdf files are on the Nexus 10, using a file manager Android app, I can create directories for each month, to store the .pdf files in a separate directory. One directory for each month. Creating directories in the file system in iOS ? Moving files into that directoy in iOS ? No, iOS hides the entire file system from the user.

Having to go through iTunes to move around files, and several other things. It was such a hassle, at best, and sometimes impossible.

And for ebooks, there's an iOS app to read the ebooks I buy from Google on my iPad. But the ebooks I bought from Apple, the only place I can read them is on my iPad. No choice.

I'm done with Apple. I have zero interest in having any new iPad product.

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[crxssi]

The current N10 is so good that I'm not convinced I would upgrade.

Exactly. The screen is perfect- so is the size, sound, shape, weight, and performance. About the only things I would want would be 64GB storage and even more battery life; although both are adequate on the N10-1. I have no reason to upgrade. But if I were still on my old Xoom and wanting to upgrade NOW, I can understand why people would be chomping to see what is coming out next, simply because why buy year old tech if you don't have to?

But switching to an ipad because there is no N10-2? That is just strange. I would either get a N10-1 or just wait a while longer, myself.

 

[Anoles]

Very well said. It almost feels like people are jumping ship too hastily. I'm a 2-and-new kind of guy, so I never fully related to the mentality that a year-old device is archaic, let alone to the point where someone feels ravenous and desperate to upgrade. This is especially true with the N10. Aside from one storage-related performance issue, this has been a great tablet. People seem to be forgetting that it launched with exorbitantly formidable specs. It holds up. Maybe not for 3+ years, but certainly for more than 1 measly year.

The Nexus 10 is more than adequate to remain a very viable strong tablet for yet another 6 months at least. It runs KitKat and has great specs and is super fast. I can hardly think of anything a new model N10 would have to offer over the current one. Sure you can always expect marginal improvements like use a newer SOC that would give you marginal performance increase, but the current N10 is not sluggish at all. New SOC and maybe a bigger battery would increase battery life, but the current N10 has more than adequate battery life for most. Higher resolution makes no sense so I doubt that will happen. New one might be a bit lighter. More storage is just not very important having currently 32GB. My point is that there isn't anything really significant missing in the current N10. Maybe wireless charging would be nice is all. Still the current N10 is formidable. If you don't have one then buy one. Woot just had it yesterday (32 GB ) for $280. And there are great deals on Craigslist or eBay.

I really can't believe that there are those that say they will consider an iPad Air. I'm not an Android zealot, but I feel that most people are either in one camp or the other. And that is fine. If you are waiting for the new then wait. And wait for however long. If you need something now then get an old N10. Then sell the old N10 when the new one comes out. That will make waiting easy. The current N10 is a great purchase now. You might break even if you sell it in the next couple months or at least it shouldn't deprecate much. If you really could consider an iPad Air then you probably are not really wanting the new N10, instead what you really want is the newest toy with indifference to what it really is. I would not trade my N10 for an iPad Air even if you paid me.

My question is if you are so interested today in the new N10 why didn't you buy the current N10 within the last year that it has been available? If you had then you wouldn't mind so much waiting now. If you are always waiting for the next best thing without getting anything then you'll never have anything. When you do get something learn to deal with the fact that it won't be the best for long.

The current N10 is so good that I'm not convinced I would upgrade. I will upgrade if it is significantly lighter and has wireless charging. But for now I'm very happy with my current N10. I'm not really missing anything.

Sorry if my comments insult anyone. It is not my intention.


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[msavic6]

I have been using my Tegra2 Motorla Xoom for the past 2 1/2 years and its finally time to upgrade for me.

From my research, I have found the Nexus 10 to be plagued with countless issues from software to hardware. Freezing, rebooting, lag in modern games due to underpowered GPU and charging times exceeding 10 hours. Ask me again why I didn't upgrade to this tablet?

I don't understand why it is hard for people to consider having a foot in both ponds, I have an android phone, an iPad would compliment it quite nicely imo.

So I am basically stuck with a Motorola Xoom that is in dire need of an upgrade and my only options are continue waiting which I will most likely do or get an iPad Air LTE.

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[crxssi]

From my research, I have found the Nexus 10 to be plagued with countless issues from software to hardware. Freezing, rebooting, lag in modern games due to underpowered GPU and charging times exceeding 10 hours.

* Mine never freezes. And it doesn't reboot any more than my Xoom did, which is pretty rare and was limited to mostly one OS release.
* I play games all the time and NOTHING is slow on the N10. I don't know anything about the GPU being underpowered.
* Charging never takes 10 hours. Never. 6 hours tops if it is totally dead and without using POGO. And that is very reasonable for NON PROPRIETARY, standard USB charging (which is a huge advantage).

I don't understand why it is hard for people to consider having a foot in both ponds,

Because from a software and ecosystem standpoint, they are radically different. If you don't care about the way they operate or the philosophy behind them and the setup (permissions, freedom/control, launcher, widgets, rooting, store, multitasking, etc), and just use them to do simple browsing and running some games, you are right, it probably doesn't matter as much; especially since Google Play and iTunes are now similar in quality content.

So I am basically stuck with a Motorola Xoom that is in dire need of an upgrade and my only options are continue waiting which I will most likely do or get an iPad Air LTE.

No, those are not your only options (assuming you want a fast 10"). You can also get a quality 10" Android tablet from another vendor, or even buy the N10-1 which is far, far from being obsolete. The N10-1 makes the Xoom feel like it was a '386 system

 

[msavic6]

No, those are not your only options (assuming you want a fast 10"). You can also get a quality 10" Android tablet from another vendor, or even buy the N10-1 which is far, far from being obsolete. The N10-1 makes the Xoom feel like it was a '386 system

Any modern tablet will make the Xoom look like crap, I get that. The Nexus 10 is a year old already, I unfortunately do not want to purchase a year old device if I know im going to use it for 2 or more years. Sure, I could purchase a tablet from another vendor but ASUS tablets have cheap internals that slow fown after a couple months of use and I do not want to deal with that. The Note 10.1 is not really enticing since touchwiz is extremely cluttered and disorganized on it with the addition of all the pen features, in turn the tablet lags and experiencea random slow downs.
After using a stock android tablet like the Xoom, I would prefer to stick to stock Android.



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[MrSlippery519]

I still do not understand why some people are getting so angry...its not like Google came out and said they were going to release this and then didn't. Unfortunately there have been no real leaks so we are all just guessing it will come "soon" given their typical yearly release schedule. We know "people" have information on the new N10 as Jerry Hildenbrand made comments a few times about it, but again that means nothing of when we will see it.

Granted I am looking forward to it as well but its not going to kill me if I get it next week or 2 months from now.

 

[angry english]

For people considering the new iPads and using both this and an Android tablet i would say do it, i love Android as an OS, i think it knock the socks off IOS, but the App Store is also better than the play store depending on what your looking for, Currently im sporting the 2013 Nexus 7 FHD and the new iPad Mini with Retina (i had the air but i prefer the smaller form factor so returned it) and im really happy, i use both tablets as each do things better than the other, i have both in front of me now, a couple of examples are the Facebook app is so much better on Android than the IOS version, i also prefer the Google apps like Drive, Youtube etc etc, they just seem to be better optimized for the Nexus, but i prefer the quality of apps on the iPad, i think its a better web browsing experience and much better for reading for obvious reasons over the Nexus 7.

I will say this though, even though i do prefer the smaller footprint with tablets i will buy the N10.2 if it does come out.

Would i go with IOS as my only system.... Not a chance, but having both is turning out to be quite nice

 

[pizza5]

What you said is true. G doesn't owe us anything and they aren't breaking any promises if they haven't made any. But from another perspective - promises have been made and purchases need to be finalized or Santa will be sad. I think G does have an obligation to at least indicate a date for availability. Especially this time of year when shipments and deliveries are slow. From my perspective I sold my "old" tablet because it is losing value daily. I thought the N 10 2 was coming out Oct 24 according to published rumors. Then as that date slipped by others came and went as well. It seems that ALL the published reports were nothing more than space-filling guesses and reports by others citing those baseless guesses. Now, I can't imagine a worse day then Black Friday to announce a new item when there will be distractions from competitors and vendors. Wait, I can think of a worse day - how about 11 PM on Dec 24. In fact, I am starting that rumor now. After all G hasn't indicated otherwise. Personally, I'm glad I don't have stock in G, but I was wrong once before.

 

[anon(823957)]

Its really getting into crunch time with the holiday season coming up so quickly.

I'm personally looking to upgrade from my PlayBook, but I don't want to suggest the N10 as a gift idea if its going to be refreshed in the immediate future.

I too was looking at the iPad Air, but just can't justify it with how locked down the system is. Bit of a dilemma - I'm just really hoping Google announces something this week.

 

[Devlyn16]

I still do not understand why some people are getting so angry...its not like Google came out and said they were going to release this and then didn't.

I understand it in so far as Google has established a pattern for releasing thier Nexus devices.

Nexus One January 2010
Nexus S December 2010
Galaxy Nexus November 2011
Nexus 4 November 2012
Nexus 5 October 31, 2013

Nexus 7 2012 July 2012
Nexus 7 2013 July 2013

Nexus 10 2012 November 2012

At this point people have come to expect and annual refresh. And by no means does Google OWE them/us an explanation of the delay it woul dbe nice of them to do so.

THAT said I can't help but wonder if the delays are down to the reality we have had 3 "confirmed" manufacturers of the next N10. Firsty samsung, then Asus, now LG. IF Google is switching maufacturers this many times in a development cycle I would be surprised if there were no delays.

 

[blakerandy]

Add the fact that G is not really a hardware firm and lacks hardware marketing experience I am beginning to doubt we will see it soon. If I'm right, remember you heard it here first.

Are you forgetting they OWN Motorola?

 

[MrSlippery519]

At this point people have come to expect and annual refresh. And by no means does Google OWE them/us an explanation of the delay it woul dbe nice of them to do so.

THAT said I can't help but wonder if the delays are down to the reality we have had 3 "confirmed" manufacturers of the next N10. Firsty samsung, then Asus, now LG. IF Google is switching maufacturers this many times in a development cycle I would be surprised if there were no delays.

Its not like they have been doing a consistent annual refresh for the past 10 years, we hardly have a trend given the dates you listed. Again I realize everyone is hoping to see if before xmas but the reality is it may or may not happen.

As for the manufacturer, all that is internet BS unless you have "confirmed" documentation that shows they have actually switched manufactures, at this point we have no idea who is making it. It could very well be Samsung again, unless I missed this confirmed information?

The only real information that I have come across at this point is the fact an "LG-V510" passed through BT certification a month ago, however we have no clue what that could be either...it could be a N10, it could be an LTE G PAD 8.3 (considering the normal 8.3 is a LG-V500) or could be a Nexus 8.

 

[gonecks1]

Hopefully its out or at least announced by Christmas and for sale at Best Buy. Plan on using the gift cards I get for it. If not looks like the 2014 Note 10.1 it is.

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