Nexus 4 Price Drop: 8GB $199, 16GB $249

I get really fast speeds on my T Mobile account using HSPA, so who needs LTE, which isn't available in many places either.
I agree. My concern is that in two years, and maybe even in one year, T-Mobile's HSPA footprint will have shrunk. Most of that LTE coverage isn't coming from new towers, it's coming from repurposed old towers. I'm not an expert, so I don't know how that works exactly, but the risk in my mind is that as LTE coverage expands, HSPA coverage will shrink. That is what I'm worried about; not that HSPA is inadequate now, but what it will be like down the road. Even in the best case scenario, with resources being poured into LTE, HSPA coverage will never expand again, even if it doesn't diminish. Not to say the Nexus 4 isn't still a great deal; at prices like that you can probably afford to upgrade when you have to, but it's getting to the point now where I'd hesitate to buy a non-LTE device. It wouldn't necessarily be a deal-breaker, I'd just have to think twice.
 
3G is still acceptable, but I'd be increasingly hesitant to buy a mobile device without LTE support at this point. As more and more towers and spectrum are dedicated to LTE, the networks' 3G (including HSPA, no matter what T-Mobile calls it :P) footprint is only going to get relatively smaller. That makes me concerned about whether an HSPA device without LTE bought now will still be as viable in 18 months.
I got lucky. I found out my carrier's HSPA is dual-cell, and as luck would have it the N4 supports DC HSPA. My speeds have been from 14-22 Mbps which is a far cry from the 4-6 Mbps I used to get on my last hspa device.
 
I ran speed test side by side with a moto x in ATT store on our supposed LTE covered area. Nexus 4 beat it 3 times in a row?

While I don't think that is right I've also had my friends HTC One outpace me nearly 2:1. Sounds impressive but it was like 2.7 to 4.8. So for me it is almost a useless spec until speeds improve.

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I ran speed test side by side with a moto x in ATT store on our supposed LTE covered area. Nexus 4 beat it 3 times in a row?

While I don't think that is right I've also had my friends HTC One outpace me nearly 2:1. Sounds impressive but it was like 2.7 to 4.8. So for me it is almost a useless spec until speeds improve.

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There's still a lot of fibbing going on by carriers about their LTE coverage. There's a lot of variables to consider. Not all towers have been properly equipped with it still, different LTE chip manufacturers have different behavior, indoor coverage on LTE varies, some devices misbehave by switching between lte and hspa, and so so many other things. In perfect conditions LTE is faster. That's about all I can say about it. It was never $300 faster though. I've never noticed any difference when it came down to website load times or connected apps. The only time I ever saw a gain was downloading 1gb or larger files which I normally only do on WiFi.

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While it is tempting, the lack of LTE for AT&T holds me back. Once you have used LTE, you can't go backwards. It would be like switching fios for dial up. I'll stick with my HTC One that has been converted to a GPE.
3G is still acceptable, but I'd be increasingly hesitant to buy a mobile device without LTE support at this point. As more and more towers and spectrum are dedicated to LTE, the networks' 3G (including HSPA, no matter what T-Mobile calls it :P) footprint is only going to get relatively smaller. That makes me concerned about whether an HSPA device without LTE bought now will still be as viable in 18 months.

Most people who have used both LTE and HSPA+ report that HSPA+ is nearly the speed of LTE, probably about 5Mbps slower (for example, 20 compared to 25). Some even report HSPA+ as being faster (perhaps because there are less people using HSPA+ now that most phones use LTE). So having LTE would be a welcome addition, but I don't mind not having it. And remember, LTE also drains battery faster.
 
There's still a lot of fibbing going on by carriers about their LTE coverage. There's a lot of variables to consider. Not all towers have been properly equipped with it still, different LTE chip manufacturers have different behavior, indoor coverage on LTE varies, some devices misbehave by switching between lte and hspa, and so so many other things. In perfect conditions LTE is faster. That's about all I can say about it. It was never $300 faster though. I've never noticed any difference when it came down to website load times or connected apps. The only time I ever saw a gain was downloading 1gb or larger files which I normally only do on WiFi.

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Yes. I guess I was expecting the 20+ I've seen in screen shots. Ah well, nexus 5 should have it since nexus 7 will? Great deal regardless of your LTE stance.

Anyone know if you can use nexus 4 on ATT without data plan? Have a friend using international gnex with WiFi only. Don't know if ATT doesn't care or they can't recognize the imei and leave it be. I've searched on it before but it always results in discussions on people getting busted using the cheap medianet plan.
 
Is there a time span where if you've recently bought a nexus 4 from the play store and they reduce the price soon after, you can get some of the money back?

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Yeah if you bought it on August 12 or later, you can get a $100 refund.

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Bought mine on July 29. Yeah, I paid a hundred bucks more than I would have if I had waited a month . But I got a *free* bumper. So there.
 
This is completely off topic and I promise to shut up after I say it, but sometimes I read the replies to my posts and wonder if people read the post or just scanned it for key words and replied to what they thought I probably wrote.