Nexus 5 is better than the iPhone.

The weird moment when your HTC Amaze has a bigger and better screen than an iPhone 5S. 2 year old tech beats a iPhat/g

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Well, some believe that it is the iPhone's smaller, more easily wielded punyness that is doing the beating, with its A7 lying largely dormant, lying in wait for prey. I, however, am not one of those people.

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Well, some believe that it is the iPhone's smaller, more easily wielded punyness that is doing the beating, with its A7 lying largely dormant, lying in wait for prey. I, however, am not one of those people.

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*Cough* Djay and Vjay and Infinity Blade 3 use the A7 and those are just some apps*Cough*
Then of course you have all the fitness apps that are starting to take full advantage of the A7. Plus Pages is intensive as well. The A7 does not lie dormant, you simply did not use any apps that pushed it. Not trying to sound like an *** but it's true.
 
*Cough* Djay and Vjay and Infinity Blade 3 use the A7 and those are just some apps*Cough*
Then of course you have all the fitness apps that are starting to take full advantage of the A7. Plus Pages is intensive as well. The A7 does not lie dormant, you simply did not use any apps that pushed it. Not trying to sound like an *** but it's true.

I certainly did not push my 5s with Infinity Blade and the likes, Monopoly is my favorite iOS game. Don't laugh, at least you can play Monopoly in iOS.

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Hmm. Have you seen the 5S display? It's very sharp and crisp. Plus a bigger screen is VERY subjective so you saying your old phones screen is better because it is bigger is rather...amusing.

I am actually a lot less impressed with iPhone displays nowadays. It has a ppi 100 less than my current phone (despite the fact that my screen is significantly larger) . I personally can see the difference immediately. I can also see my display in direct sunlight easily.

Where iPhone displays still shine is view angle. I am still jealous of that.
 
How is that not objective? I'm typing this on a Nexus 5. You're just mad because I didn't say the phone you own.

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Some would say my old Optimus G Pro and G2 stink. Their opinions on these things matters to me not. No device appeals to everyone.

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How is that not objective? I'm typing this on a Nexus 5. You're just mad because I didn't say the phone you own.

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No. Because you've been giving Jeff a hard time for being, in your opinion, non objective. Then you come out and say, ' you don't have the best phone, accept it.' Or such. (Your words are above if any missed them.) As if what you're saying isn't subjective.

That's what caught my attention. :):beer:

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No. Because you've been giving Jeff a hard time for being, in your opinion, non objective. Then you come out and say, ' you don't have the best phone, accept it.' Or such. (Your words are above if any missed them.) As if what you're saying isn't subjective.

That's what caught my attention. :):beer:

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It is objective. The Nexus 5 is my daily driver right now, but having owned (and in the case of the Moto X, still do) both the One and X, I believe them to be better. It's objective because I've used them extensively as opposed to watching YouTube videos about them and thinking I know.

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I'm being very objective that I think any phone that doesn't have at least a 4.5 inch screen isn't a good phone unless all you use it for is to make calls and text people.
 
It is objective. The Nexus 5 is my daily driver right now, but having owned (and in the case of the Moto X, still do) both the One and X, I believe them to be better. It's objective because I've used them extensively as opposed to watching YouTube videos about them and thinking I know.
Except that "works better for me" has absolutely zero to do with being objective. As soon as you say "believe" and "better", that is by definition subjective. You cannot "believe" something is "better" objectively. One device can be objectively faster, objectively slower, objectively bigger, have objectively more ppi, objectively have better battery life under similar use conditions, or objectively cost more than another. Objective judgments can only be rendered on things that can be measured in a verifiable manner that can be reproduced, and only with those measurements.

"Better" is in and of itself a subjective term, because you cannot measure "better." I can say blue is a "better" color, and you can say red is the "better" color. The phones you see as better work better for your use case, for you. That doesn't give you dibs on objectivity.
 
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Except that "works better for me" has absolutely zero to do with being objective. As soon as you say "believe" and "better", that is by definition subjective. You cannot "believe" something is "better" objectively. One device can be objectively faster, objectively slower, objectively bigger, have objectively more ppi, objectively have better battery life under similar use conditions, or objectively cost more than another. Objective judgments can only be rendered on things that can be measured in a verifiable manner that can be reproduced, and only with those measurements.

"Better" is in and of itself a subjective term, because you cannot measure "better." I can say blue is a "better" color, and you can say red is the "better" color. The phones you see as better work better for your use case, for you. That doesn't give you dibs on objectivity.

How is that not being objective? I've owned all 3 in question. I was asked what I thought the best phone is. I answered. I guess until I answer differently and say the Nexus 5 because that's the forum I'm on it won't matter.

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That's not being objective.

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Oh and I guess all the Apple fans over here trashing the Nexus 5 camera for ten threads on a Nexus 5 board is objective in your opinion? I really didn't buy a Nexus 5 or any phone for a camera. That is what my Nikon DSLR is for. I refuse to keep getting ripped off price wise with a bling-bling marketing appeal that was build on impressing technology challenged customers that overpay for a phone and tablet for the bling-bling factor. I got rid of my four iPhone that broke all time in their over priced closed propriety prison world environment that doesn't play well with others manufactures devices. Sorry I won't except a toy size tiny screen with a one phone fits all design. Apparently a lot of other people feel the same way.


The most recent data from IDC shows that for Q3 of 2013 Android made up 81 percent of devices shipped. You read that right—four out of every five smartphones shipped in Q3 were built on Android. Meanwhile, Apple’s iOS scraped by with a sad and distant second place figure of only 12.9 percent.
 
How is that not being objective? I've owned all 3 in question. I was asked what I thought the best phone is. I answered. I guess until I answer differently and say the Nexus 5 because that's the forum I'm on it won't matter.
Good god. It's not being objective because you're missing the definition of objective. You owning all 3 devices has NOTHING to do with you being objective. Objectivity has to do with facts, and facts have to be established by measurements, not by "feeling." You can't find something objectively better, because 'better' is by definition a subjective term, not an objective one.

You answered which phone you found to be the best in your use case. And that's your *subjective* opinion. That is not the same as saying a phone is "the" best. Because there is no "best", objectively speaking.

I think what's going on here is you are confusing 'impartial' with 'objective.' The two aren't the same. You can be impartial and still have personal preferences towards features, looks, software, etc. Impartial merely means that you didn't set out to make one phone a winner; that you gave each an equal chance to win your heart. In 'objective', your heart is irrelevant. Your preferences are irrelevant. ONLY measurable, reproducable things are relevant when it comes to objectively using a relative/superlative term. Objective is not a value judgment, like 'better' is. I have had both hot coffee and iced coffee. I think iced coffee is better - because I like it better; it makes my taste buds happier. That is an impartial judgment, not an objective judgment. An objective judgment would be that iced coffee is colder than hot coffee.
 
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Oh and I guess all the Apple fans over here trashing the Nexus 5 camera for ten threads on a Nexus 5 board is objective in your opinion? I really didn't buy a Nexus 5 for a camera. I refuse to keep getting ripped off price wise with a bling-bling marketing appeal that was build on impressing technology challenged customers that overpay for a phone and tablet. I got rid of my four iPhone that broke all time in their over priced closed propriety prison world environment that doesn't play well with others manufactures devices. Sorry I won't except a toy size tiny screen with a one phone fits all design. Apparently a lot of other people feel the same way.
Okay calm down. I chose the Nexus 5 for much the same reason you did, and I think Kitkat is a far superior OS to iOS, but that doesn't mean anyone who chooses and iPhone is choosing to get ripped off for a better camera. They have the right to like a smaller screen as much as you and I do to like a bigger one. That doesn't make it "toy-sized," especially when there are plenty of good Android phones with smaller screen sizes too - in fact, the ability to choose is something Android users cherish.

In terms of personal judgment, for me the iPhone would be a sub-par, overpriced product. But not everyone has to make the same judgment as me. Especially since the iPhone costs essentially the same on contract as many flagship Android phones, I can definitely see someone choosing the iPhone for a good variety of reasons: the Apple brand, the looks and polish, the excellent camera, that they are used to the interface, that it works well with their existing Apple equipment at home, that they can walk into an Apple store with it if it has any problems and Apple will fix or replace it. People choose to pay for different things. It's their money. Let them spend it how they please.
 

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