Nexus 7 tablet has poor build quality.

Yeah, apparently the adhesive they applied to the screws melted when the first shipments sat too long in the sun. Mine's great, but I would suggest others wait.

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Well I'm going with the Toshiba excite 7.7 because I hear the build quality is the best. Tegra 3, 32gb internal memory, amoled screen, aluminum casing, SD card slot, USB port and rear camera. To me all that stuff is worth it to me. ll be paying 510 for the 32gb model. Its more expensive unfortunately but I will keep this for quite some time so its worth it to me. Wish the Toshiba was small like the nexus but going up to 7.7 might be good or bad at the same time. I liked the Google tab but its just missing key features and quality issues. Its still the best bang for buck regardless.

Wish everyone here well.

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Well I'm going with the Toshiba excite 7.7 because I hear the build quality is the best. Tegra 3, 32gb internal memory, amoled screen, aluminum casing, SD card slot, USB port and rear camera. To me all that stuff is worth it to me. ll be paying 510 for the 32gb model. Its more expensive unfortunately but I will keep this for quite some time so its worth it to me. Wish the Toshiba was small like the nexus but going up to 7.7 might be good or bad at the same time. I liked the Google tab but its just missing key features and quality issues. Its still the best bang for buck regardless.

Wish everyone here well.

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For your sake I hope it gets better reviews than the lukewarm reviews that its ten inch cousin gets on amazon.

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For your sake I hope it gets better reviews than the lukewarm reviews that its ten inch cousin gets on amazon.

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Yah I think I'm just going to wait for the Acer a110 now that the a110 will ship with jelly bean, SD slot, and HDMI out.

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Yah I think I'm just going to wait for the Acer a110 now that the a110 will ship with jelly bean, SD slot, and HDMI out.

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That sounds like a good tablet. It wouldn't work for my purposes, because I wouldn't want to pay extra for an inferior screen and a slower processor. However I understand those who would like it for the hdmi.

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My company purchased 200 of these for testing of function and security in our enterprise. They are to be deployed to Marketing, Sales and Legal.

Our company got not ONE defective, but you got 10? I have 7 friends that bought these personally, again, not ONE defective.

I agree yours is a sad case.

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My company purchased 200 of these for testing of function and security in our enterprise. They are to be deployed to Marketing, Sales and Legal.

Our company got not ONE defective, but you got 10? I have 7 friends that bought these personally, again, not ONE defective.

I agree yours is a sad case.

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If I might venture a guess, I'd say the reason your guys didn't find a single defective unit was because they didn't go into the exercise being convinced they'd find issues and obsessively look for them. If someone is convinced they are going to find a problem, he or she can usually find one (whether it truly exists or not). When I hear someone say they've purchased 10 "defective" tablets in a row (to say nothing of the guy that claims he bought 21), I can't help but feel that statement might be relevant to them.
 
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That sounds like a good tablet. It wouldn't work for my purposes, because I wouldn't want to pay extra for an inferior screen and a slower processor. However I understand those who would like it for the hdmi.

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Actually the Acer 110 will have the same Tegra 3 quad core processor as the nexus 7 tablet, plus hdmi, plus a micro sd slot.

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If I might venture a guess, I'd say the reason your guys didn't find a single defective unit was because they didn't go into the exercise being convinced they'd find issues and obsessively look for them. If someone is convinced they are going to find a problem, he or she can usually find one (whether it truly exists or not). When I hear someone say they've purchased 10 "defective" tablets in a row (to say nothing of the guy that claims he bought 21), I can't help but feel that statement might be relevant to them.

To be fair on a few tablets I decided to overlook the light bleeding issue. But what was most prevalent was the flickering when you get a low wifi signal, or the horizontal line artifact when browsing chrome or tapatalk.

So to be fair, some of these I didn't go looking for, they are just noticeable and occur.

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The problem might be in your head!

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Lol, try being objective

I've been heavily researching this tablet and even a few reviewers have shown that in their unit that screen was coming apart from the tablet and the color issue has been documented as well

Just because you have a good copy doesn't mean the issues with the device aren't out there

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Lol, try being objective

I've been heavily researching this tablet and even a few reviewers have shown that in their unit that screen was coming apart from the tablet and the color issue has been documented as well

Just because you have a good copy doesn't mean the issues with the device aren't out there

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Yes, a few reviewers noted they had minor screen separation issues, and, yes, a few reviewers got stuck with units that had ghosting problems and/or the infamous "grayish screen" some have experienced. However, there have literally been a few that have had these problems with their devices..but the other dozens and dozens, if not hundreds, of professional reviewers have had nothing but praise for the Nexus 7. And certainly the screen's resolution and color have received acclaim from the vast majority.

The point here is not that some devices have problems (they indeed do), but rather that most units are problem-free. You'd think from these forums that 90% of N7s have one issue or another..this is most certainly not the case. I'd wager that the number of "perfect" tablets FAR outweigh those with defects. That said, the problematic ones get way more press than those that are doing great..such is human nature.

As a side note, I extensively compared my N7's screen to that of the iPad 2 and 3 recently, and I have to say that the N7's display stood up very well to the other two. It's nearly identical in color vibrancy and accuracy to the iPad 2, though the Nexus 7's resolution and pixel density are noticeably superior. The iPad 3's screen is definitely nicer, but, frankly, not so much as to justify the $400 higher price tag it demands..not even close. I was actually pretty surprised how close the N7 came to matching it, especially when you stop to remember it is only a $200 unit. The whole thing left me feeling extremely pleased with my tablet's display..much more so than I expected to be.


My guess is that my experience is much more representative of the norm than that of the unfortunate few (statistically speaking) that are having problems. I don't say that in an attempt to minimize their justifiable frustrations, but rather to encourage people to remember that this tablet will prove itself to be an AWESOME buy far more times than not. I've got no stake in selling this to anyone..but I'm just very pleased that I decided to pick an N7 up. If only the happy people spoke as loudly as the unhappy ones.
 
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Yes, a few reviewers noted they had minor screen separation issues, and, yes, a few reviewers got stuck with units that had ghosting problems and/or the infamous "grayish screen" some have experienced. However, there have literally been a few that have had these problems with their devices..but the other dozens and dozens, if not hundreds, of professional reviewers have had nothing but praise for the Nexus 7. And certainly the screen's resolution and color have received acclaim from the vast majority.

The point here is not that some devices have problems (they indeed do), but rather that most units are problem-free. You'd think from these forums that 90% of N7s have one issue or another..this is most certainly not the case. I'd wager that the number of "perfect" tablets FAR outweigh those with defects. That said, the problematic ones get way more press than those that are doing great..such is human nature.

As a side note, I extensively compared my N7's screen to that of the iPad 2 and 3 recently, and I have to say that the N7's display stood up very well to the other two. It's nearly identical in color vibrancy and accuracy to the iPad 2, though the Nexus 7's resolution and pixel density are noticeably superior. The iPad 3's screen is definitely nicer, but, frankly, not so much as to justify the $400 higher price tag it demands..not even close. I was actually pretty surprised how close the N7 came to matching it, especially when you stop to remember it is only a $200 unit. The whole thing left me feeling extremely pleased with my tablet's display..much more so than I expected to be.


My guess is that my experience is much more representative of the norm than that of the unfortunate few (statistically speaking) that are having problems. I don't say that in an attempt to minimize their justifiable frustrations, but rather to encourage people to remember that this tablet will prove itself to be an AWESOME buy far more times than not. I've got no stake in selling this to anyone..but I'm just very pleased that I decided to pick an N7 up. If only the happy people spoke as loudly as the unhappy ones.

Its a great device but most are defective statistically speaking. The odds of me picking 10 bad units if most were perfect like you said should be nearly impossible. I'm certain that most are defective at this point and Google sacrificed quality to make a tablet cheap. But even with the common defects I see, I encourage everyone to buy the tablet because its a great tablet for the price bar none. The Toshiba excite 7.7 is way overpriced after much consideration, and the Acer a110 will probably have an inferior screen. So unless the Toshiba excite 7.7 came down to 350 the nexus tablet despite its issues...still wins because most of the issues are not noticeable, and most of the time you have to hunt for the issues.

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The odds of me picking 10 bad units if most were perfect like you said should be nearly impossible.

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I couldn't agree more, and, in fact, this has been my point during numerous discussions here on the board. Picking up 10 defective units in a row is, well, as you said, nearly impossible. I say this with all respect, my friend, but the problem is probably less with the units than it is with you finding the problems you're convinced are there. People just don't get 10 bad devices in a row. Again, not my intent to insult you..but I'm just standing on the side of statistical reality here.

And just between my family and I, we're four tablets in so far. Zero problems of any kind. That's to say nothing of all the other people I know whose N7s are issue free. I just can't imagine you getting ten truly defective ones in a row.
 
People who think that it is impossible to get 10 defective items in a row when most are without issue don't understand manufacturing and statistics (I don't mean any offence by this, most people don't).

Products are typically manufactured in batches, and it is possible for a particular batch to have issues that don't affect the rest of the batches. So now lets put in some numbers to illustrate my point: Let's say there were 1,000,000 Nexus 7's manufactured and there was a batch of 10,000 where 99% were defective, if you pick 10 devices from this batch, you would have ~90% chance of all ten being defective, but if from the rest of the 1,000,000 devices only 1% were defective, then that would be only another 9,900 defective devices which would total 19,800 defective devices out of 1,000,000 which is a little less than 2% of all devices with defects from which you could reasonably say most devices are defect free while simultaneously making it quite possible for someone to get 10 bad devices in a row if they all came from the bad batch.

N.B. All numbers given, were made-up solely to illustrate how it is possible for the two seemingly contradictory statements to be true simultaneously.

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Its a great device but most are defective statistically speaking. The odds of me picking 10 bad units if most were perfect like you said should be nearly impossible. I'm certain that most are defective at this point and Google sacrificed quality to make a tablet cheap. But even with the common defects I see, I encourage everyone to buy the tablet because its a great tablet for the price bar none. The Toshiba excite 7.7 is way overpriced after much consideration, and the Acer a110 will probably have an inferior screen. So unless the Toshiba excite 7.7 came down to 350 the nexus tablet despite its issues...still wins because most of the issues are not noticeable, and most of the time you have to hunt for the issues.

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If most devices were defective, the vast majority of reviewers wouldn't have gotten perfect devices and said as much in their reviews. They are professionals and know when they have a faulty device. The fact is, the vast majority of devices have no problems

I'm sorry, but just because you went through 10 devices does not mean "most are defective". You have zero evidence to back up such a claim. Not to mention you bought several of them at a time, increasing the chance of getting a bad device if your retailer had a faulty bunch.

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If most devices were defective, the vast majority of reviewers wouldn't have gotten perfect devices and said as much in their reviews. They are professionals and know when they have a faulty device. The fact is, the vast majority of devices have no problems

I'm sorry, but just because you went through 10 devices does not mean "most are defective". You have zero evidence to back up such a claim. Not to mention you bought several of them at a time, increasing the chance of getting a bad device if you retailer had a faulty bunch.

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Exactly. Carrying the thought further, if the majority were flawed,, how do we account for user reviews on amazon giving it the highest rating .....4 1/2 stars.....of any android tablet?

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different people go through several, leave one review per person per multiple tablets

or each of those tablets purchased by separate people once, multiple bad reviews, one for each tablet.

increased chances of getting a faulty device by purchasing from same store? those faulty devices where going to be there anyways. you'd instead have 10 people saying theirs is faulty.

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If most devices were defective, the vast majority of reviewers wouldn't have gotten perfect devices and said as much in their reviews. They are professionals and know when they have a faulty device. The fact is, the vast majority of devices have no problems

I'm sorry, but just because you went through 10 devices does not mean "most are defective". You have zero evidence to back up such a claim. Not to mention you bought several of them at a time, increasing the chance of getting a bad device if your retailer had a faulty bunch.

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I'm 99% positive I could find a defect in your tablet in 2 minutes time. I guarantee you have some backlight bleed.

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I couldn't agree more, and, in fact, this has been my point during numerous discussions here on the board. Picking up 10 defective units in a row is, well, as you said, nearly impossible. I say this with all respect, my friend, but the problem is probably less with the units than it is with you finding the problems you're convinced are there. People just don't get 10 bad devices in a row. Again, not my intent to insult you..but I'm just standing on the side of statistical reality here.

And just between my family and I, we're four tablets in so far. Zero problems of any kind. That's to say nothing of all the other people I know whose N7s are issue free. I just can't imagine you getting ten truly defective ones in a row.

I can easily find a defect in all four of your tablets. I'm positive each one of your 4 tablets has some light bleed even though it might not be noticeable to you. As to whether your tablets have raise screen, horizontal line pop up, flicker issues, etc, could be a 50/50 chance.

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I'm 99% positive I could find a defect in your tablet in 2 minutes time. I guarantee you have some backlight bleed.

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And I "guarantee" what you consider backlight bleed is, in fact, normal LCD screen operation as discussed earlier in this thread.

Just because black isn't truly black doesn't make it defective...that's just the way this particular screen tech works.

Mine has no ACTUAL backlight bleed.

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