The merit in his topic of flooding the market with crap (is there anyway to include more than one quote) is true in a way. As was pointed out earlier it's because the carriers having control where Apple locked down their device (mostly). A good example is Bluetooth. Almost all phones have it. Many were locking it however to prevent file transfers. The tech is in there, you just can't use it. Then you have to look at all the tablets from Colby and the like. they sell them cheap to people who don't know any better. Some tablets on the market still run Android 2.3 or older and can't use the new Play store.
Nexus 7 will lead Android tablets to overtake the iPad
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The merit in his topic of flooding the market with crap (is there anyway to include more than one quote) is true in a way. As was pointed out earlier it's because the carriers having control where Apple locked down their device (mostly). A good example is Bluetooth. Almost all phones have it. Many were locking it however to prevent file transfers. The tech is in there, you just can't use it. Then you have to look at all the tablets from Colby and the like. they sell them cheap to people who don't know any better. Some tablets on the market still run Android 2.3 or older and can't use the new Play store.
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You must have not used a Cupcake or Donut device.
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My post earlier was for you. About how many devices carry the Nexus name. Idk what happed with ACF's quoting feature, acted up on me.
?IPhone.. its a given. We know that. One name, one unified system.
?RAZR... ehh.. kinda 50/50 on this name. Mostly it used to be a clam phone originally before it became a smartphone.
?Kindle... yes def has reputation but as an Ereader first before a functional tablet in terms of its competition.
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I don't seem to have that screen lift issue. If I do I don't notice it. I prefer this tablet over the iPad 2 I recently sold because its perfect size. Browses the internet better too. Although chrome on the iPad made that much closer. As far as the apps go, the phone apps look pretty darn good on here and the tablet apps are same. With the iPad there really aren't that many must have tablet apps if you ask me. I actually can stow this in my suit pocket with ease, tether with my gnex and I'm good. Don't even use my gnex at home unless for a call or someone texts not using my voice number.
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You proved one of my points by this comment. Lol
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I think the point one should take from the comment was that while iOS still requires that, Android has moved on and evolved.
Apple's implementation of most things is super simple. My mom, who can barely run her PC, can pick up an iPad and use it. That's great. What's not so great is that iOS hasn't changed a hell of a lot since 2007, while Android has changed a ton. Sooner or later, Apple will have to change things up, because the same ol' same old is only going to cut it for so long. They have very good hardware, and simple, elegant software.........that's looking rather long in the tooth. That's going to come back to bite them if they don't begin to evolve with the rest of the industry. Right now they're on top. If they want to stay there, they need to keep pace with everyone else.
They used to set the pace. I'm not so sure that's the case anymore.
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Aside from the usual fanboy stuff, I hate to say this but right now the Nexus 7 is inferior to the Kindle Fire from a usefulness standpoint. I have been unpleasantly surprised to find that 2/3rds of the things that I could do with the Fire are currently impossible.
* Amazon Instant Video doesn't work because of the lack of Flash. Yes, you can hack it in, but it's a PITA.
* Conde Nast magazines aren't available. I get free tablet versions for Wired and Vanity Fair, but there is no Android app. The NextIssue app they outsourced it to doesn't work on JB and apparently doesn't work since an update months ago. Entertainment Weekly's tablet version is also iPad/Fire only. Growing Android market share doesn't seem to matter.
* While the developer does say he's working on an updated app, Calibre doesn't see the Nexus. There are workarounds but again it's a hassle.
Don't get me wrong, I think the N7 is a slick tablet with a lot of potential, but unless the apps situation improves QUICKLY, then Apple will be able to coast on their lead indefinitely. They say that software sells hardware - that's why exclusives in game consoles matter, like Halo and Gears of War being only on Xbox or Uncharted and God of War only on Playstation - and if the app situation is inferior for the N7 to the Fire, then competing with iPad is a delusional fantasy.
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* Amazon Instant Video doesn't work because of the lack of Flash. Yes, you can hack it in, but it's a PITA.
* Conde Nast magazines aren't available. I get free tablet versions for Wired and Vanity Fair, but there is no Android app. The NextIssue app they outsourced it to doesn't work on JB and apparently doesn't work since an update months ago. Entertainment Weekly's tablet version is also iPad/Fire only. Growing Android market share doesn't seem to matter.
* While the developer does say he's working on an updated app, Calibre doesn't see the Nexus. There are workarounds but again it's a hassle.
Don't get me wrong, I think the N7 is a slick tablet with a lot of potential, but unless the apps situation improves QUICKLY, then Apple will be able to coast on their lead indefinitely. They say that software sells hardware - that's why exclusives in game consoles matter, like Halo and Gears of War being only on Xbox or Uncharted and God of War only on Playstation - and if the app situation is inferior for the N7 to the Fire, then competing with iPad is a delusional fantasy.
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The Kindle Fire was released Nov 2011. Thas close to 8 months. Let's see after 8 months where the N7 will be at.
Keep in mind as stated before. This is JB now. Like when iOS is upgraded, it takes time to get apps to migrate over.
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Does anyone think this could play out like the console wars?
Apple = Xbox360 - big lead in home nation, less in the world. Spending more money to keep it that way but are creating most of their own problems. Sometimes lack a unifying voice. Both a plagued by greed issues (Xbox Gold to use internet functions - higher hosting fees from Appstore)
Google = Sony - an arguably superior device (smaller screen but better resolution and CPU performance). Going for global domination but is having a problem overcoming some obstacles. many issues are due to poor decisions.
Amazon = Nintendo - going for price and ergonomics over hardware power. Both have moments of insane domination followed quickly by moments of high level niche status. Both are creating a market more than tapping into one.
Apple = Xbox360 - big lead in home nation, less in the world. Spending more money to keep it that way but are creating most of their own problems. Sometimes lack a unifying voice. Both a plagued by greed issues (Xbox Gold to use internet functions - higher hosting fees from Appstore)
Google = Sony - an arguably superior device (smaller screen but better resolution and CPU performance). Going for global domination but is having a problem overcoming some obstacles. many issues are due to poor decisions.
Amazon = Nintendo - going for price and ergonomics over hardware power. Both have moments of insane domination followed quickly by moments of high level niche status. Both are creating a market more than tapping into one.
This is not like when ios is updated. ios doesn't break large portions of apps every time it is updated.
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While the Calibre issue could be OS teething pains, the other factors are the direct choice of Amazon, and Conde Nast, and Time-Warner to deliberately ignore Android with no sign of moving.
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Explain "break".
iOS developers still have to migrate over, nevertheless whether pre or post updating.
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Meaning when iOS is updated it still runs old versions of apps even if they aren't optimized for the new version. When android updates, large numbers of app just don't work. The nexus 7 is a perfect example. It is ludicrous the number apps that just don't work on JB. It was the same case with ICS. Hell Hulu just started working with ICS last month.
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Isn't that what separates Android's open vs Apple's fixed systems?
You also have GB vs ICS. A lot of people will not get ICS due to hardware limitations much less JB.
So what's the majority? What OS is currently on most devices?
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So you are suggesting that Apple create an OS that is different from what people know and understand for the sake of change? I wouldn't like that. What I am comfortable with is that when I have gotten new iOS devices that I know what to expect from it. I know that I, my wife, and my 4 year old daughter will know how to use it as well. If I have to relearn an OS every time a new model in the line comes out then the device has failed me. I would only expect change when the OS is no longer efficient and/or meets my needs. When you state "they have very good hardware, and simple, elegant software" that sums up everything that I want. I like the progression that Android has shown. And I believe that soon, we will make the same statement about Android being simple, elegant, and just works. And that's a good thing.
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I found a Wired apk at xda, but it crashes instantly. The CW Network app also crashes.
As others have mentioned, Apple caters to a customer base of technically ignorant sheep, BUT are we REALLY better off with our open OS when it requires rooting, searching forums for tips and files and hacks? The iHerds sneer, "It just works," but how are we really superior when our reply is, "It just takes some work to get it working."
It's a hard life being on the bleeding edge of technology.
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As others have mentioned, Apple caters to a customer base of technically ignorant sheep, BUT are we REALLY better off with our open OS when it requires rooting, searching forums for tips and files and hacks? The iHerds sneer, "It just works," but how are we really superior when our reply is, "It just takes some work to get it working."
It's a hard life being on the bleeding edge of technology.
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I'd even argue that the "DROID" brand is a more popular name than "Nexus".
I've heard numerous times people referring to their Android phone as a "DROID" phone even if they don't have a real DROID-branded device.
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