Note 5 vs Note 4

[rsgapps]

The current Note 4 is really fast and I am not using it to gaming. I dont know if i will be upgrading, for sure not because of better hardware.

 

[D13H4RD2L1V3]

If you love your Note 4, keep it.

If you use microSD cards and swap batteries, keep it.

If you don't care about the 2 above and want the latest tech, upgrade.

 

[Carrtman]

Note 4 is everything I need and more therefore absolutely not going to downgrade.

I don't play games nor do I care about benchmarks.

Love my Note 4 and Bold 99

If Samsung doesn't come to their senses soon the note will be my last Samsung device and I'll switch to lg

 

[eshropshire]

I'd double check your facts on this because Samsung is not the only company moving away from SD cards. Check out the Nexus 6 heck of a device , correct? Tell me what you see..er...don't see. The companies you mention have all done the same thing at one time or another. Who knows, if its an epic fail Samsung can always add the functionality back in the future. Not the end of the world.

Nexus phones have never had SD card support. From the first Nexus to the N6. Every Nexus tablet has not had SD card support.

The argument I keep hearing from the Samsung VM crowd is how SD card support is going away by all companies. I see the opposite, HTC removed support in the non Asian M7, but SD card support is back in the M8 & M9. LG has SD card support in their latest phones. Now Motorola is adding SD card support to their newest flagship phones.

If you don't care then support Samsung has removed the SD card slot to boost the average selling price of their phones. Buying a Nexus line device provides different benefits and since they never supported SD cards, they have never removed options just to boost their ASP.

I agree with most of the comments if you don't care about the loss of options that you don't care about then get the latest Samsung phones. But for those of us who do care, the good news is we now have plenty of options. In 2013 when I upgraded the only flagship phone I could find with SD card support was the S4 and the Note. Now in 2015 those of us who do want SD cards we have plenty of options.

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[johnriii]

I'd keep my note 4, even if it were time to upgrade. Much like the s6, Samsung will need to work out the kinks in the Note 5,since it is basically a new phone for them, with the unibody and all. Though I rarely have to, I like being able to change out my battery. Imo, all smartphones will be this way in the very near future.

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[PortablePete]

This is my take on a comparison of the two.
Note 4 is a great device. Swappable battery and expandable SD card is nice for sure. Tough lesson is losing the phone with months of photos and files on it. Due to the fact I cameled my phone so badly that I never backed up made it that much worse.
Note 5 looks great also. Hope the battery life.is good but the quick charge negates the negative of having it sealed in. The 128 gig would be fine for me also. I have never exceeded my current level and it would force me to backup more if I did.
I would have hoped the note 5 be more environmentally friendly since it is sealed up more. Wireless charging would be awesome and a type c connection would keep me from ******** too much.

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[bertsirkin]

Here's another reason to get rid of the SD cards - this is an excerpt (from this page: Storage wars: do we really need microSD cards in our phones? | TechRadar ):

"According to a study carried out by Hyojun Kim at the Georgia Institute of technology, using a microSD card in your phone can cause it to become sluggish, with even basic tasks like web browsing suffering as a result. Overall performance can often drop by between 100% and 300% and in one case the study found that there was an incredible 2000% decrease in performance."

SD cards have an obvious advantage - but also come at a price.

 

[D13H4RD2L1V3]

Nexus phones have never had SD card support. From the first Nexus to the N6. Every Nexus tablet has not had SD card support.

Actually, the Nexus One has an SD card slot.

Every Nexus since the Nexus S hasn't had one, and since the Nexus 4, hasn't had a removable battery.

 

[muzzy996]

Here's another reason to get rid of the SD cards - this is an excerpt (from this page: Storage wars: do we really need microSD cards in our phones? | TechRadar ):

"According to a study carried out by Hyojun Kim at the Georgia Institute of technology, using a microSD card in your phone can cause it to become sluggish, with even basic tasks like web browsing suffering as a result. Overall performance can often drop by between 100% and 300% and in one case the study found that there was an incredible 2000% decrease in performance."

SD cards have an obvious advantage - but also come at a price.

While i can't argue with the idea that a 128gb S6 or Note 5 with its faster memory controller will out perform a Note 4 with a 64gb card (obviously the hardware is newer and faster but I'm talking memory performance in general), I take issue with the drawing of conclusions as to the degree of performance hit made by the article given the methods used in the study. Read page 4 of the study and pay particular attention to the reference to the 3rd and 2nd to the last paragraphs. How many users are going to repartition their phones to force system cache and all application data to live on the slower microSD card? None, because cache needs to run on the fastest memory possible. Again I have no issues with the concept that internal memory is faster but the article and study is misleading. ..

 

[D13H4RD2L1V3]

While i can't argue with the idea that a 128gb S6 or Note 5 with its faster memory controller will out perform a Note 4 with a 64gb card (obviously the hardware is newer and faster but I'm talking memory performance in general), I take issue with the drawing of conclusions as to the degree of performance hit made by the article given the methods used in the study. Read page 4 of the study and pay particular attention to the reference to the 3rd and 2nd to the last paragraphs. How many users are going to repartition their phones to force system cache and all application data to live on the slower microSD card? None, because cache needs to run on the fastest memory possible. Again I have no issues with the concept that internal memory is faster but the article and study is misleading. ..

I second that.

I use an SD card the same way like everyone else; to store media. My phone hasn't slowed down. Not once.

 

[muzzy996]

Yeah in the end I don't lament too much about the loss of microSD. I love having the option but if a 128gb phone isn't too expensive ($800's a stretch, $900+ is too much IMO) then having an external microSD adapter via USB OTG would work for me. Samsung's latest memory tech as Beh mentions in post 7 is much faster now and although I believe in always getting the fastest microSD I can even the fastest microSD available isn't as quick as internal memory on the S6.

But that's just me . . I use microSD but I rarely ever swap out the card. Primarily it's just storage of movies, working files, Titanium Backup and nandroid backup files. I can easily switch to using an external adapter to handle the last two.

 

[Job Gikonyo]

From note 4 I'll upgrade to note 7. That's when serious mobile technological innovations will have happened to warrant my hard earned dollar

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[chuco35]

At $1000 for the Note 5 (including case), it'll be hard for me to dump my perfectly good Note 4. Especially since the 5 is not slated to be a revolutionary device by any stretch of the imagination. I'll live without the slight improvements of the 5. My 4 is still a screaming Hot device.

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[anon(394005)]

Just thought of another advantage for the Note 4 if you're on Verizon; you get to keep simultaneous voice and data without needing to activate/use VoLTE (Voice over LTE or what Verizon calls Advanced Calling), which IMHO isn't ready for prime time yet (it only works when in a solid LTE area and only with others on an LTE connection). With that setup, voice goes over your LTE data connection. The advantage with the Note 4, compared to newer devices, it still has the extra radio (for SVLTE or Simultaneous voice and LTE data) where one radio handles voice and the other LTE data (no need to activate/use VoLTE). Newer devices have dropped this extra radio and need VoLTE to do simultaneous voice and data.

IMHO, Verizon is still years away from where VoLTE can be used reliably for simultaneous voice and data. So to phase out the extra radio is premature!

 

[eshropshire]

Here's another reason to get rid of the SD cards - this is an excerpt (from this page: Storage wars: do we really need microSD cards in our phones? | TechRadar ):

"According to a study carried out by Hyojun Kim at the Georgia Institute of technology, using a microSD card in your phone can cause it to become sluggish, with even basic tasks like web browsing suffering as a result. Overall performance can often drop by between 100% and 300% and in one case the study found that there was an incredible 2000% decrease in performance."

SD cards have an obvious advantage - but also come at a price.

Great, then just don't use an SD Card in your phone. Having the slot does not slow down the phone. Also, I have used my phones with and without SD cards. I have never noticed a difference. I use good quality fast cards and only for pictures and media. Easy enough solution. I just get tired of people telling my how I should and should not use my Android phone. I don't tell people they have to have an SD card, so why does everyone tell SD card supporters that we should not have SD cards.

I guess this thread does not matter too much for me. I doubt I would upgrade to a Note 5 even it it had an SD card slot. I hate the glass back of the phone. I thought the iPhone 4 design was the stupidest I had ever seen. Why have a phone that can break on the front and back. Some say they like the premium material, but most people use a case, so the premium material just makes it heavier.

When I do upgrade I will miss the SPen, but I will have to learn to adjust.

 

[bertsirkin]

I second that.

I use an SD card the same way like everyone else; to store media. My phone hasn't slowed down. Not once.

Check out this thread (especially the last postL http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-note-4/546140-sd-cards-slow-down-android-sorry-if-s-been-asked-before.html

and this one:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-note-4/501792-why-does-sd-card-slow-my-phone-down.html

and the last post in this one:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-note-4/467923-sudden-note-4-lag-2.html

 

[tadpoles]

I know we're losing SD cards and removable batteries and I'll learn to live with that. It just means I'll need to pay for more storage up front and have more of an excuse to replace my phone sooner (due to degraded batteries). I don't like less options but it is what it is. The Note 5 is not looking very attractive to me but I'm sure Samsung doesn't care about my $800 that they may not be getting in the next year.


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[geoff215]

Isn't it possible that Samsung could produce more than one version of the Note 5, as they have done with the S6. Maybe a version aimed at power users that keeps the SD and removable battery?

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[tadpoles]

Isn't it possible that Samsung could produce more than one version of the Note 5, as they have done with the S6. Maybe a version aimed at power users that keeps the SD and removable battery?

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Anything is possible. It would be interesting, however, as all the latest leaks and rumor point to loss of the SD and removable battery.


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[Rmedy21]

I understand people are frustrated and some are not. I personally think it was a stupid idea to get rid of some features that makes you money. However at the same time they are losing money because people aren't buying higher capacity storage phones. But I think Samsung needs to stop trying to follow Apple. I can almost guarantee that Samsung will not sell much of the Note 5 or S6 plus . If the s6 and the s6 edge didn't not sell like hot cakes I doubt these stretched out devices will. That is my opinion.

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