Note phones have a 3 year lifespan, concerned with Note 8

[flyingkytez]

Okay but you were talking in the OP about your needs -- not everyone. So I am telling you to use Package Disabler Pro.

Are you really asking for you or asking for everyone in general? I am simply going off what you posted and said.

I'm speaking for myself and everyone else. Using package disabler pro is just putting a band-aid on a reoccurring problem. A phone is a phone and should be used like such, not modified so that it doesn't get updates that will kill the phone.

 

[Jewels81]

Have you tried find my phone on your Samsung account? You can turn it on, sound an alarm, and track it via GPS. Log in on Samsung's website. Kinda creepy.

Actually no. Let me go check that lol.

 

[flyingkytez]

Thank goodness for jump on demand from TMobile I couldn't live with the same phone for 3 years. Good luck

Some people can't afford the monthly cost for it. I pay outright and use my devices for a long time, just like a laptop computer.

 

[Katrina White1]

Did you get a July update? That one's the killer.

I would say yes only because it went through so many updates that I started taking pics to make sure they were different, and they were.

 

[flyingkytez]

I'm writing this now on my note 4 . I've taken every update verizon has pushed over the years. Same with the wife's note 4. I was ready to replace it last year when the note 7 came out.. glad we didn't trade in then.. I've replaced the batteries in both of our note 4s, but that's it.. neither has been wiped since last year when I put them back in service after the note 7s. This is the first I heard of any memory issue.. guess we've been lucky. If we could get nougat I wouldn't have updated now... maybe...

No matter what you do, do not update!

 

[Almeuit]

I'm speaking for myself and everyone else. Using package disabler pro is just putting a band-aid on a reoccurring problem. A phone is a phone and should be used like such, not modified so that it doesn't get updates that will kill the phone.

Okay but it works and will solve your issue.

If that's not good enough for you simply don't buy the phone. I guess I am failing to see the true question? It seemed you were trying to find a solution. While it may not be the best one out there it's a solid one that works and will solve the issue for you to buy. If that doesn't work for then root is an option.

If that doesn't work then you should probably look for another phone. Keep in mind that carrier branded phones from Moto, LG, Samsung, etc. can and have had updates forced on them when people were sleeping overnight or sometimes even mid day.

 

[Aquila]

Wait, if the July update is the issue.. why was the issue written about in April?

 

[Jewels81]

Have you tried find my phone on your Samsung account? You can turn it on, sound an alarm, and track it via GPS. Log in on Samsung's website. Kinda creepy.

I logged into my account and saw every phone I've had and do have, my Samsung tv, and Samsung gear s2 watch I had for 2 days but took it back to best buy lol. Anyways I didn't see where to do what you said we can do. Guess I'm blind lol.

 

[chanchan05]

1. Samsung ain't forcing you to update. Your carriers are. Outside of the US I can swipe an update notification away and it won't bother me anymore. I have an S3 mini that has an update but won't (rooted), and it never shows the notification after swiping it away once.

2. Crippling the older device to make you buy a new once is false. If that were true I'd have a lot of crippled devices which work fine. My mom is still using her 7 year old Samsung tablet that still chugs along nicely.

 

[Almeuit]

1. Samsung ain't forcing you to update. Your carriers are. Outside of the US I can swipe an update notification away and it won't bother me anymore. I have an S3 mini that has an update but won't (rooted), and it never shows the notification after swiping it away once.

2. Crippling the older device to make you buy a new once is false. If that were true I'd have a lot of crippled devices which work fine. My mom is still using her 7 year old Samsung tablet that still chugs along nicely.

Yeah this is what I thought as well. It's the carrier branded ones that force them. Not the Samsung ones.

 

[anon(782252)]

Wait, if the July update is the issue.. why was the issue written about in April?

Wondering the same thing.

The 37 page report said all 3 class members experienced eMMC failure several months before the July update.

 

[Paradroid01]

I'd say, it's a hardware quality problem first. And it may be triggered by certain software procedures. My Note 4 has stopped working a few days before the Note 8 launch event.

 

[Aquila]

Crippling the older device to make you buy a new once is false. If that were true I'd have a lot of crippled devices which work fine. My mom is still using her 7 year old Samsung tablet that still chugs along nicely.

This. The entire concept of "forced obsolescence" is a great talking point, but it isn't something that is actively practiced.

 

[Paradroid01]

This. The entire concept of "forced obsolescence" is a great talking point, but it isn't something that is actively practiced.

Says and knows who?

 

[Climb14er]

Thank goodness for jump on demand from TMobile I couldn't live with the same phone for 3 years. Good luck

Most of the phone jumpers on this forum couldn't live with the same phone more than four to six months!

 

[LegalAmerican]

Problem is you are FORCED to update. They force the update on you and you have no choice. They have control over the phone and the market.

Yeah, that can definitely be a problem. But like I said, I have the same phone and it was having major problems before any updates. Devices just get old with or without updates.

 

[debdroid1a]

Not everyone knows that. Sad to see people have to shell out $1000 for a new Note. My friend was a HUGE fan of the Note 4.

No one HAS to buy a $1,000 phone. It's a choice.

Many sell phones or sell free gifts or trade to get it cheaper anyway. Some will wait for holiday sales.

 

[Dark Pixels ll]

Updates can kill/slow down any phone. Ask anyone who still owns an iPhone 5.

Phones are not guaranteed to last more than 3/4 years. Just like most electronics, they age, become bogged down with apps, and become vulnerable to bricking by heavy updates they weren't built to handle. Newer devices are built with far more efficiency than the bricks of the past.

Not to sound mean, but upgrade your damn phone. Their are a lot of great deals right now.

 

[chanchan05]

Says and knows who?

Says and knows anyone who has a properly working device after 3 years. My Note 2 would have been working still fine after 5 years if it wasn't accidentally water damaged 2mos ago. The S3 that my brother bought alongside it is still working and my mom is using that. The first tablet we had at home was a Samsung P6500 Tab Plus. My mom is still using it to play games like Sim City and Candy Crush. I check it up every now and then and it's far from crippled.

 

[Aquila]

Says and knows who?

It's common sense. If devices are created with the intention of a relatively fixed expiration date, the market will riot.

That's not the same as end of official support, which is already something that's too short. Right now the average Android device gets less than 1 major OS update and less than 4 security updates in its entire existence. When the leader on Android is providing at least 36 monthlies and 2 or 3 major OS updates, the average being that low is bad. The only redeeming factor of this is that most things that we interact with can be updated via the apps in the Play Store and with updates to Play Services, etc. which is good, because that's the only way that devices can live beyond 2-3 years.

That said, the population in the US market that is actually keeping devices for longer than 2-3 years is almost non-existent. These are fragile, portable computers and they are constantly being dropped, abused, exposed to extreme temperatures, being charged improperly, etc. A device surviving that long AND the consumer not taking advantage of deals, etc. and not feeling pressured into buying an upgrade is pretty rare. Especially given that the carriers first formed our mindset via 2 year contracts with the idea that we ought to upgrade every two years, and have been transforming it ever since to be annual upgrades.