Pixel 2 XL Screen Discussion

[os2baba]

The phone tint is another issue.

On color calibration, I have a question for folks who had the Nexus 6P and the Pixel XL, did you guys set sRGB on from Developer Options? I found the orange on my 6P and the Pixel XL to be completely unnatural. And I turned on sRGB on both phones. I showed it to my wife and showed her the Orange changing from "unnaturally bright" to "naturally dull" and she didn't like it. So her Nexus 6P and Pixel XL stayed with the sRGB off. The only thing I didn't like about that was that the whites were never pure whites and with sRGB, they really ought to have been. But I understand that with OLED displays, you can never get pure whites.

 

[gmermel]

I'm on the verge of returning my P2XL don't get me wrong it's a great phone. But with the less than stellar screen I just don't think it's worth a $500 upgrade from my OG XL. I think waiting a year is smarter since I know these type of issues won't happen again.

The OG Pixel XL is just a great phone

It'll cost you $450 w/ the original XL trade in.

Part of why I'm leaning to keeping mine. I have 12 payments left on my XL @ $24/payment. $400. So basically, at the end of the year I'll have the XL 2 for $50, and I'll own a year newer phone should I want to trade at that time.

 

[mwboost]

I'm yet to see the screen on the XL2 in person here in Aus yet. I've had worse problems with Samsung screens though. S5 S6 S7 S8.... Retuned each generation at least once until I got a good one. Due to uneven screen tones or pink and greed hues that colour adjustments couldn't fix. (all straight on view).
So I think as long as the XL2 is ok straight on I'll be happy.

 

[e30ernest]

On color calibration, I have a question for folks who had the Nexus 6P and the Pixel XL, did you guys set sRGB on from Developer Options?

Me personally, I did use sRGB on my Nexus 6P the moment I got the option to do it (IIRC, it wasn't an option when the phone first came out?). The default color setting on the 6P caused some detail to be lost (subtle gradients on the Chrome icon for example) and sRGB tended to preserve those details. Eventually, I learned to like it more. Now all those other OLED screens look cartoony to me.

 

[Nonymous666]

On color calibration, I have a question for folks who had the Nexus 6P and the Pixel XL, did you guys set sRGB on from Developer Options? I found the orange on my 6P and the Pixel XL to be completely unnatural. And I turned on sRGB on both phones.

Yes, I don't like the default high saturation that my 6P does, so I, too, always turn on sRGB.

 

[JHBThree]

AMOLED is not P-OLED. So I stand by my statement. P-OLED is garbage.

But all POLEDs on mobile are also AMOLED.

 

[Aquila]

But all POLEDs on mobile are also AMOLED.

P-OLED and AMOLED aren't the same thing, but you're right in Mobile, pOLED is AMOLED.

 

[JHBThree]

P-OLED and AMOLED aren't the same thing, but you're right in Mobile, pOLED is AMOLED.

POLED is the material the panel's substrate is made out of, AMOLED is related to how the pixels are controlled. They're two elements that can exist in OLED displays, and also unfortunately how these companies have decided to market their panels, which is why people are getting confused.

 

[mtman100]

Got mine today and after setting it up, the only screen problem I have is dull colors . For example, the reds look too brownish and it's not as colorful or as saturated as I like. It's not as good as my Pixel 1 Xl. There is no issue with blue tint, banding or viewing angles. I understand the argument for natural colors, but we should have options to choose our own calibration choices. And it looks like Google is going to do that. But, just in case do as I did and Demand it from them and provide them with feedback. Everything else exceeded my expectations!

 

[Aquila]

But LG's P-OLED is terrible. Samsung's is amazingly beautiful. If Samsung would've put their displays in the Pixel 2 XL, it would've been a home run.

So your problem is that you dislike accurate colors, not that you dislike P-OLED right?

 

[zorak950]

There's nothing wrong with not liking the screen on the 2 XL, I think it's pretty much uncontested that Samsung's panels are superior at this stage, decisions about color balance which have little to nothing to do with the underlying technology aside. Getting tangled up in marketing lingo just obfuscates the discussion. The real question is whether the fact that LG panels aren't as good as Samsung ones is enough to turn you off to a phone that has an LG panel, or whether an LG panel can be "good enough." The only person who can answer that question- as has been noted previously- is the individual user.

As for the color balance, that's purely about personal preference. We all know that most panels are tuned to make colors pop in a way that is more appealing to most people's eyes at the expense of "accuracy," or whatever you want to call it. Nobody has to apologize for liking that, and if the palette on the Pixel 2 XL bothers you that's a totally legitimate opinion to have and maybe you want to choose something else or hold off until you're sure there's a way to re-tune the display that works for you.

Of course it's frustrating to have a device come out that you feel you could have really loved but for one or two dealbreakers; I get that. Nobody wants to deal with the disappointment and hassle of having to look elsewhere because something we thought would be right for us turns out not to be what we hoped it would be. It's still not cool to deal with those feelings by taking them out on people who end up actually liking the thing you wanted to like. The reverse is also true- if you love the phone, that's fantastic; someone else disliking it shouldn't make you like it any less, and there's no call for you to get defensive on the phone's account: it doesn't care how many bad things people say about it.

 

[dsignori]

So your problem is that you dislike accurate colors, not that you dislike P-OLED right?

Most people prefer more saturated colors. Full stop. Accurate or not. Maybe not as much in this forum, but overall people love punchy colors. They are more pleasing to most people. It is what it is.


Again ... accurate does NOT necessarily = pleasing . Rinse , repeat ..

 

[Aquila]

Most people prefer more saturated colors. Full stop. Accurate or not. Maybe not as much in this forum, but overall people love punchy colors. They are more pleasing to most people. It is what it is.


Again ... accurate does NOT necessarily = pleasing . Rinse , repeat ..

Right, I'm still in the same vein of conversation with who I quoted though. They said they can't believe anyone would use P-OLED. So then we established that their favorite displays also do. Meaning P-OLED isn't the problem, it's the difference in default calibration.

 

[anon(9072051)]

For a change of pace from the POLED vs. AMOLED back 'n' forth, here's a longish post about Android O and wide color gamuts that takes a different perspective on the muted colors complaint re. the 2 XL:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/77gm3r/android_oreo_color_gamuts_and_pixel_2_explained/

 

[KWKSLVR]

There's nothing wrong with not liking the screen on the 2 XL, I think it's pretty much uncontested that Samsung's panels are superior at this stage, decisions about color balance which have little to nothing to do with the underlying technology aside. Getting tangled up in marketing lingo just obfuscates the discussion. The real question is whether the fact that LG panels aren't as good as Samsung ones is enough to turn you off to a phone that has an LG panel, or whether an LG panel can be "good enough." The only person who can answer that question- as has been noted previously- is the individual user.

As for the color balance, that's purely about personal preference. We all know that most panels are tuned to make colors pop in a way that is more appealing to most people's eyes at the expense of "accuracy," or whatever you want to call it. Nobody has to apologize for liking that, and if the palette on the Pixel 2 XL bothers you that's a totally legitimate opinion to have and maybe you want to choose something else or hold off until you're sure there's a way to re-tune the display that works for you.

Of course it's frustrating to have a device come out that you feel you could have really loved but for one or two dealbreakers; I get that. Nobody wants to deal with the disappointment and hassle of having to look elsewhere because something we thought would be right for us turns out not to be what we hoped it would be. It's still not cool to deal with those feelings by taking them out on people who end up actually liking the thing you wanted to like. The reverse is also true- if you love the phone, that's fantastic; someone else disliking it shouldn't make you like it any less, and there's no call for you to get defensive on the phone's account: it doesn't care how many bad things people say about it.

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It's sad when good folks just can't have a discussion and an exchange of different ideas and opinions.

 

[Zod1010]

Just began setting up my Pixel XL 2. Yes, I could see the blue hue when I looked at the screen with a white background. In the two hours I've been setting up the phone has anything about the screen bothered me? Not in the slightest. I actually like the screen (coming from an S7 Edge). Can't imagine returning this phone.

Side note... this phone is FAST!

 

[dsignori]

Right, I'm still in the same vein of conversation with who I quoted though. They said they can't believe anyone would use P-OLED. So then we established that their favorite displays also do. Meaning P-OLED isn't the problem, it's the difference in default calibration.

I think it was more your characterization than your content I was replying to.

i.e. instead of "you dislike accurate colors, not that you dislike P-OLED" I would contend "you prefer a more colorful screen, not that you dislike P-OLED" is really the thing.

I still think I will have no problem with the screen, but we will see ..

 

[Aquila]

I think it was more your characterization than your content I was replying to.

i.e. instead of "you dislike accurate colors, not that you dislike P-OLED" I would contend "you prefer a more colorful screen, not that you dislike P-OLED" is really the thing.

I still think I will have no problem with the screen, but we will see ..

I'm fine wording it either way.

 

[e30ernest]

For a change of pace from the POLED vs. AMOLED back 'n' forth, here's a longish post about Android O and wide color gamuts that takes a different perspective on the muted colors complaint re. the 2 XL:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/77gm3r/android_oreo_color_gamuts_and_pixel_2_explained/

That's a good read. Thanks for sharing!

 

[zorak950]

It's sad when good folks just can't have a discussion and an exchange of different ideas and opinions.

I get it in some cases- there are a lot of important issues out there worth getting up in arms about. When you're talking about stuff that impacts the lives and livelihoods of potentially millions or billions of people then yeah, sometimes it's probably appropriate to get pushy. But about what phone somebody chooses to buy for themselves? What are you possibly hoping to accomplish?